Jay 37,323 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 1. Lemurian Star2. Project Insight3. The Smithsonian4. An Old Friend5. Fury6. The Winter Soldier7. Fallen8. Alexander Pierce9. Taking a Stand10. Frozen in Time11. Hydra12. Natasha13. The Causeway14. Time to Suit Up15. Into the Fray16. Countdown17. End of the Line18. Captain America19. It’s Been a Long, Long Time – Harry James and His Orchestra20. Trouble Man – Marvin Gayehttp://filmmusicreporter.com/2014/03/12/captain-america-the-winter-soldier-soundtrack-details/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shore 83 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not very interested on this score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not very interested on this score...I am actually. I didn't mind Jackman's work on X-Men, didn't love it either. However, I really enjoyed his score for Wreck It Ralph so I'm looking forward to this one. I doubt we'll get to hear Silvestri's theme, unless they use a bit near the end when it may be appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I havent heard the GREATNESS of Henry Jackman as proclaimed by Koray Savas. his X-Men score was OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not very interested on this score... However, I really enjoyed his score for Wreck It Ralph so I'm looking forward to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Sadly he won't be using Silvestri's theme at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Pity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Which is strange, because every single film Cap was in did use at least a snippet.But what do I know? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Every single film?You mean the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Every single film?You mean the two?Cap 1, Avengers, Thor 2.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 It's in Captain America: The First Avenger, The Avengers and even makes a cameo in Thor: The Dark World an a scene where Loki takes the shape of Cap for a few moments. Here around 3:00 mark:http://youtu.be/n3AO1q8E_PUKarol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Of course, Avengers and Cap 1 were both scored by Silvestri, and Thor 2 was composed by Brian Tyler, so it kinda sorta makes sense why those scores had it, and this one will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I can't believe they wouldn't even hint at it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Some of X-Men First Class is okay but I agree his score for Wreck It Ralph is fun. However, not really looking forward to this one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Silvestri's "theme" was meh anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 This one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yes, In quint's view, if its not memorable/he does not like it than its not actually a theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 The theme is rather excellent really. Certainly the most developed theme of the Marvel films, by a very long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 So if a theme is not memorable it's not a theme? I don't get that logic.A theme is a theme, whether it's memorable or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 I doubt Quint has ever even listened to that track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 *shakes head* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 So if a theme is not memorable it's not a theme? I don't get that logic.Who said that? This one? Yeah. The melody is weak and wasn't indelible in the way I expect a good superhero theme to be. It's like something from a B-movie. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 *shakes head* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 *shakes head* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 It's a very lackluster and generic theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Another one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yes, good sense and even better taste is at a premium here. Romão and Sharky understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Is it for real? Or are you simply trolling?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Et tu Romão? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 The theme for Silvestri's America is great. Better than most "themes" that came out that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yeah. The melody is weak and wasn't indelible in the way I expect a good superhero theme to be. It's like something from a B-movie.That's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 It's pretty dire, as Lee said. Strangely it reminds of the STAR WARS Main Title, if you took away the opening blast and fanfare, Luke's theme, the romantic B section, stockpiling fourths at the end and the mysterioso polytonal fade out. They just share chords (lots of suspensions), a similar progression (the Cowboy Cadence - bVII -> V), rhythm (they're both stately marches in the tradition of Walton, Elgar and Korngold) and brassy orchestration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 The theme is predictable in a very bad way. Generic is exactly the adjective I'd use. There's absolutely no idiosyncrasy at all. It could be the theme for dozens of films and characters. It actually reminds a lot of this But at least that one is suposed to be making fun precisely at this sort of theme Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Well, I'm sure Jackman will find a way to dazzle you all. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yeah. The melody is weak and wasn't indelible in the way I expect a good superhero theme to be. It's like something from a B-movie. That's the point.No it isn't. Was The Avengers (co starring Captain America) supposed to be a B-movie musical sound, too?Lee - finds it easier on mobile to just 'like' agreed comments rather than going to the hassle of quoting them and saying "indeed/agreed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 No, Silvestri was just lazy and didn't want to write a new Cap theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 The theme is predictable in a very bad way. Generic is exactly the adjective I'd use. There's absolutely no idiosyncrasy at all. It could be the theme for dozens of films and characters. It actually reminds a lot of this But at least that one is suposed to be making fun precisely at this sort of themeThis 1 million percent! GREAT comparison, Romão. Captain America sounds like a parody of a superhero theme, which more than anything works directly against the integrity of a franchise which now apparently wants to be taken as seriously as The Avengers. No wonder they're supposedly binning it for the sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shore 83 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The Captain America March is one of the best compositions of Silvestri, with soul and spirit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I'm not a fan of Jackman by any means, but I'm hoping he comes up with a good score at least. B/c I'm very much looking forward to the film itself. It sucks that he wont use the Silvestri theme for crucial scenes. I doubt he'll come up with anything that can rival Silvestri's either. IMO Silvestri's CA March was one of the better superhero themes of this decade and the last. It was far from generic and predictable unlike some of the current superhero themes & scores. Alex Shore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Silvestri's theme very effectively evokes both the WWII period as well as the good old American values that Steve Rogers lives by. If the theme feels like a bit of a throwback stylistically, it's certainly intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Here you can hear what Jackman's theme evokes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Holy shit they replaced it with another generically farted out video game score. Come back Alan, all is forgiven. I'm not much of a fan of the first score, but Jesus Christ it had more character than this gash. What the hell happened to Jackman? Kick-Ass shown so much promise! But it seems he's only another jobbing composer after all, doing what is asked of him and only that. Ah well, never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Welcome back into the fold my friend! *hugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 We need to support each other on those dark times, not fight. The enemy will use that.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 What the hell happened to Jackman? Kick-Ass shown so much promise! But it seems he's only another jobbing composer after all, doing what is asked of him and only that. Ah well, never mind.That's one issue I have with him and maybe a few other of the newer composers. They are basically hacks with a solid degree of technical skill. But not much in the way of a personal voice or even signature style.If whoever hires them wants something textural and synthetic, they provide, if the guy who's signing their cheque wants something more orchestral, they do that. It doesnt really seem to matter.Now I understand that as a fledgeling composer someone like Jackman can't afford to turn down too much stuff, and there is a lot of competition out there. But it all sounds so indistinct.But even JW had to slog through a decade of hack work in the 60's before finally becoming his own man, so I guess it's far from a new problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 You see, it's not so much that the modern sound doesn't work. It's just that not many composers of the new generation can make it interesting. Not too mention personal voice issue you addressed. If you look at Patrick Doyle's Thor, for example, you can still see fingerprints of a composer (his later attempts are much less distinctive, I know).Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Damn I was really hoping for a more 70's espionage sound, apparently what the film is aming for, but no... Couldn't get past the first minute.No wonder Powell sticks to animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 it's rather sad that they cannot keep continuity score-wise in this universe.Specially when they usually get a big name for the 1st films and then get second rate composers for the sequels, meaning the sequel composers are not "divas" and should be able and not insulted if they have to arrange other people's themes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Whisky Tango Foxtrot is that shit??? Sounds like something I can push out of my ass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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