Trent B 337 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Only a few songs and a source for "Celeberity-Ding Dang Dong" is the only new thing? Eh...pass I'm happy with the Varèse sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Gah, another HA2? My interest seriously depends on what material is added and whether the sound is seriously improved (and the last release sounds fine).Well, Varese's Home Alone 2 was the complete score and nearly perfect aside from being too loud. La-La Land had the opportunity to reissue, remaster and apparently expand, so great. I hope the additional tracks are without vocals.Define "too loud"?I dunno if this is what people are talking about, but the background for the instrumental version of Merry Christmas is so loud you can barely hear the melody.indy4 - reaching for his wallet...somebody stop me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Fuck me, will be getting all three. Home Alone 2 will probably last a couple years so I'm making Die Hard and The Untouchables the priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The "instrumental" Merry Christmas is, unless I'm mistaken, simply the regular recording without the (apparently separately recorded) choir session. You can barely hear the melody because the melody is supposed to be sung by the choir, so in all the choir passages the instrumentation is much thinner, only doubling the vocals. Between the vocal parts, the piece is fully orchestrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Home Alone 2 will probably last a couple years.Maybe, maybe not. There are probably people new to the limited edition deal now and missed out on the original Varèse version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 With these small additions I think I will pass this if the additional JW music is just about 3 minutes more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Home Alone 2 will probably last a couple years.Maybe, maybe not. There are probably people new to the limited edition deal now and missed out on the original Varèse version.The first Home Alone is still around, after 2 years. It's funny that Michael Kamen's scores sell out within days and Williams' don't.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The "instrumental" Merry Christmas is, unless I'm mistaken, simply the regular recording without the (apparently separately recorded) choir session. You can barely hear the melody because the melody is supposed to be sung by the choir, so in all the choir passages the instrumentation is much thinner, only doubling the vocals. Between the vocal parts, the piece is fully orchestrated.You're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Great that this score has become again available for people who missed it the first time around. And conveniently so close to Christmas. Sadly I have to pass on all these LLL releases because of chronic shortage of money. I think it will be correct to assume that Die Hard 3 will sell out in a blink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The first Home Alone is still around, after 2 years. It's funny that Michael Kamen's scores sell out within days and Williams' don't.As I said 'maybe or maybe not'.Die Hard has had a more popular fan base to it than Home Alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Do not underestimate the power of JW's Home Alone scores, especially an expensive OOP limited edition.I think Varese's version, like TPM Ultimate Edition, is very bright and comes the closest to a JW entry into the loudness wars. There are numerous points where I have to turn it down while listening, which is rare. It's usually the opposite. I think Race to the Room is an example of the occasional aural assault. I'm really interested to hear the new mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The first Home Alone is still around, after 2 years. It's funny that Michael Kamen's scores sell out within days and Williams' don't.As I said 'maybe or maybe not'.Die Hard has had a more popular fan base to it than Home Alone.Off the top of my head, the last JW title to sell out was SpaceCamp. Home Alone 2 will last years, guaranteed. The Varese Club took years itself to sell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The other one was 1941. But still JW is not such a strong seller as some anticipated.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 For some reason people gobble up the most obscure Goldsmith titles and Kamen's scores, perhaps because the composers have passed away. But of course there have been very popular and long sought after titles among the released scores like the Die Hards etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackR 95 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 It's also that the Home Alone scores are Christmas themed, which for many only provide listening a month or so a year. I'm a fanatic of Williams and Christmas material and his Home Alone scores are among my favorite so I'm all I've this, even though I've got the Varese release. I'll be getting Star Trek, Home Alone 2 and Die Hard 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 For some reason people gobble up the most obscure Goldsmith titles and Kamen's scores, perhaps because the composers have passed away. But of course there have been very popular and long sought after titles among the released scores like the Die Hards etc.While I enjoy the scores immensely myself and think they are the very best thriller/action genre can offer, it never stops to amaze me how popular they are. They don't strike me as something that would sell this fast. But then again, I thought Hook will sell out within days so what do I know?Speaking of Die Hard 3, I'm really curious what it's like. I watched the film last night and the music wasn't exactly in the forefront. There seems to be a lot of material reused yet again. I wonder how much of it is tracked. Kamen went through quite an ordeal on this one and some of the sections were rewritten. Something tells me it will turn out to be a much stronger score than the film would let you to believe and that there is a lot more original previously unheard material. Whether it can hold a candle to the first two remains to be seen, though.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 481 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I actually really liked the sound from what I heard of the Varese release of Home Alone 2. I think the loudness really works for that score. Although I generally don't like scores to be maximized insanely, I have to admit I'm in the camp that believes most John Williams scores are mixed a bit too low for my tastes most of the time. Music needs to be heard, doesn't it? Not fought to be heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 And regarding The Untouchables... is there anything relevant missing from the album? I don't remember anything, except perhaps different bits and pieces of the full album arrangements spread across the film.I don't think all of the film recordings are different, but there might be some. Even if everything on the album is in the film, I definitely want the cue for Ness walking on the bridge with the newspaper (just before he meets Malone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Speaking of Die Hard 3, I'm really curious what it's like. I watched the film last night and the music wasn't exactly in the forefront. There seems to be a lot of material reused yet again. I wonder how much of it is tracked. Kamen went through quite an ordeal on this one and some of the sections were rewritten. Something tells me it will turn out to be a much stronger score than the film would let you to believe and that there is a lot more original previously unheard material. Whether it can hold a candle to the first two remains to be seen, though.It only made sense for Kamen to reprise a lot of the same material from the first score into the third score. He did it for Die Hard 2 as well.Re-read the paragraph regarding Die Hard 3. It says it has rejected music that has never before been heard until now. So it's possible some of the material that may have been tracked replaced the unused stuff.Judging from the track list and times for Die Hard 3 it seems that quite a bit of music may have been dialed our cut out from the film where there was no music but it was meant to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Yeah it is almost 150 minutes of music on this album, so there must be plenty of unheard stuff.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The new music for Home Alone 2 looks pretty cool. I was hoping for more instrumental tracks without vocals, but whatever.I assumed Merry Christmas alternate was the edit from the Home Alone Christmas album, but it does say previously unreleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 The first Home Alone is still around, after 2 years. It's funny that Michael Kamen's scores sell out within days and Williams' don't.As I said 'maybe or maybe not'.Die Hard has had a more popular fan base to it than Home Alone.Yet Home Alone and HA 2 have grossed more than domestically than all 4 Die Hard films. And that's not even adjusting for inflation.http://www.boxofficemojo.com/search/?q=home%20alonehttp://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=diehard.htmNow to be fair, Die Hard barely moves ahead on foreign gross. But it's 4 films against 2. HA3 doesn't exist in my world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I should have made my post a little more clearer. I was talking about the music regarding the two not the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Guesses off the top of my head.Spider-manJudge DreddBatman & RobinLethal WeaponThe Last Boy ScoutLast Action HeroThe next two movies a character actually says "crime doesn't pay" in 'em.Action JacksonJohnny DangerouslyWow I was way off. I thought Lethal Weapon was going to be released for sure. Especially with the plot taking place around Christmas. Though Die Hard 3 fit the "crime doesn't pay" description perfectly. I didn't believe it would get released b/c I didn't think LLL would release two Kamen scores for Black Friday. I guess LW only has enough space on one disc instead of two. I didn't expect DH3 to come out that soon especially just after Varese expanded DH2 just a few weeks ago, but they've been working on DH3 for many years anyway.And I also can't believe I didn't think of Home Alone 2. Probably b/c I already believed LW was going to be released. I didn't think LLL would release two scores to films that take place during Christmas with the theme "Crime Doesn't Pay". Though they've released two Christmas titles for their Black Friday batch before in '10' (Home Alone and Batman Returns) and '11' (Die Hard and Scrooged).I was surprised by The Untouchables as well though I didnt post any mob/gangster/crime drama movies. I did kept in mind some scores from the genre. It's just the last thing that came to my mind was The Untouchables. Maybe b/c I already own the original album. I pretty much thought it was the majority of the score in the film.I'm happy about all the releases. Even the ST:TOS box set though I won't be getting it b/c I'm not that familiar with it. Only seen a few episodes many years ago. Besides I think that's more for the hard core fans of the tv show and scores. Looks like I'll be double dipping on The Untouchables. I bought that 4 years ago at Barnes & Noble for less than ten bucks. Kind of wish I waited now b/c I didn't think that score would ever get an expansion with remastered sound. Especially now that they've added the original album on it. Oh well, it's one of my favorite Morricone scores anyway. So it'll be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Ok, WTF Home Alone 2 AGAIN..? I bought three versions already... Really, another one..? WTF..? Sometimes it sucks to be a JW completist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I bought the Varese 2 CD yeeeaaars ago and listened to it once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I listen to mine every year around Christmas. But there's nothing on this new set that'll entice me to shell out for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Getting all, including TOS, but not rebuying Home Alone 2. I never misplaced my volume knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Ok, WTF Home Alone 2 AGAIN..? I bought three versions already... Really, another one..? WTF..? Sometimes it sucks to be a JW completist...How'd you buy three versions? The OST, the Deluxe Edition, and... the first Home Alone?No one's forcing you to buy this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Maybe the song compilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Ya I don't get the need to re-buy Home Alone 2 again, if one has the Varèse Deluxe Edition. I think this is mostly for those who missed out on the original Varèse release. I still don't see how much more of a remastering the score can have. I still think the sound quality is just fine for the Varèse version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 This is in the category where if one doesn't have the Varese release, it's an opportunity to get the score without paying some speculator on eBay an exorbitant sum. LLLR's Krull is the same way, as is Intrada's The Great Escape (which I highly recommend). If your version is fine, pass on it and let someone who doesn't have it get a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I listen to them all. Original album arrangements (Plaza Hotel and Duncan's Toy Chest is one of the best album assemblies), Deluxe, Christmas album for edit of Merry Christmas and now this for the new source tracks and mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 481 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I really do hope the mix isn't too quieted down. I really liked the loudness of the Varese version from what I heard. Can't wait for the clips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 473 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE – EXPANDED ORIGINAL MOTION PICTURE SOUNDTRACK -- 2 CD SETMUSIC BY MICHAEL KAMENLLLCD 1233LIMITED EDITION OF 4000 UNITSRETAIL PRICE: $29.98Michael Kamen is back with a vengeance at La-La Land Records with this spectacular 2 cd set brought to you courtesy of Sony Music and 20th Century Fox . Literally years in the making, this explosive set features over 2 hours of music written and recorded for the third film in the Die Hard franchise. The soundtrack that was released back in 1995 only contained only a fair amount of score, songs and some classical cues that were not ever featured in the final film. This newly expanded release gives the fans what they have been clamoring for…and then some. Not only are we releasing the score as written for the film, but also several rejected tracks never heard until now. If you are fan of high octane, action packed scoring this is a must have release!DISC ONE1 Summer in the City 2:44Performed by The Lovin’ Spoonful(John Sebastian/Mark Sebastian/Steve Boone)2 Main Title*:193 Goodbye Bonwits 6:284 John and Zeus 3:205 Taxi* 1:516 Neat Bomb* 2:117 Papaya King 5:198 72nd Street Phone* 3:189 Taxi Chase* 5:0810 The Subway (Part 1)* 4:2411 The Subway (Part 2)* 2:1512 Take A-nother Train 2:5413 Feds* 4:4214 Rings a Bell* 8:2815 Infiltration* 5:3316 Bank Invasion* 4:1517 Back to Wall Street* 2:5518 Fake Cops* 1:4219 The Federal Reserve 2:1820 Bank Elevator** 2:5421 Gold Room Aftermath 1:3622 Panic* 2:04Total Disc Time: 76:37DISC TWO1 Aqueduct 2:122 Santa Claus* 2:363 Yankee Stadium / School and Tunnel* 3:424 Refrigerator Bomb* :405 Surfing in the Aqueduct 2:296 Ticking Refrigerator* :507 Mercedes Chase / School Assembly* 3:148 Aftermath / Waiting and Falling* 2:009 Hooking the Boat* 5:4510 Bunny and Fire Drill* 2:3911 Running in the Halls* 1:4212 Bomb Goes Into Hold* 5:2413 John Makes It Mad* 1:3914 Holly / Celebration* 3:1715 Oh, Canada!* 3:2316 Johnny Comes Marching Home* 1:39Total Time: 43:07Total Score Time: 1:59:44Bonus Tracks:17 Regret* 1:5718 Hooking the Boat (alternate)* 4:2319 On the Freighter / John Makes It Mad* 3:3020 Wall Street Station* 1:2921 The Subway (Part 1) (alt. segment)* 1:3122 The Subway (Part 2) (alt. segment)* :4723 Ode to Johnny* 3:1224 No Rush* 1:2025 Escape* 2:0526 The Foundry 3:0827 Waltz of the Bankers (album track) 4:1528 Gold Vault (album track) 3:5029 Somebody Had Fun (wild snare)* 1:1630 Johnny Comes Marching Home (wild vamps)* 1:29Total Bonus: 34:06Total Disc Time: 77:23Total Two-Disc Time: 2:34:00* Previously unreleased** Contains previously unreleased musicDISC 1ORIGINAL MOTION PICTURE SCORE1. The Strength of the Righteous 2:312. Ness and His Family–Part I 1:403. Warehouse*/False Alarm 1:514. Ness Meets Malone 1:215. Al Capone–Part II (vers. 2) 1:396. A Mother’s Plea 0:557. Ness Meets Wallace*/Ness Meets Stone* 0:338. Victorious 2:109. Murderous/Goodnights 1:4010. Nitti Harasses Ness 1:0111. Send Family Away 1:0012. Waiting for What?/Montana Intro 0:4813. Waiting at the Border 3:4714. The Untouchables 3:0515. Surprise Attack/Dead Man’s Bluff 1:1516. Ness and His Family–Part II 1:1717. In the Elevator 1:1018. Four Friends 2:5119. Payne and Bowtie/Ness Study*/Al Capone–Part I 0:5220. The Man with the Matches/Nitti Shoots Malone* 3:0421. Malone’s Death 2:1722. Machine Gun Lullaby/Kill Bowtie 7:4123. Courthouse Chase 1:3824. On the Rooftops/Nitti’s Fall 2:5525. He’s in the Car/Here Endeth the Lesson 0:3226. Death Theme 2:4227. The Untouchables (End Title) 3:10TOTAL DISC TIME: 55:25DISC 2ORIGINAL A&M ALBUM1. The Untouchables (End Title) 3:112. Al Capone 2:563. Waiting at the Border 3:464. Death Theme 2:425. On the Rooftops 2:346. Victorious 2:097. The Man With the Matches 2:478. The Strength of the Righteous (Main Title) 2:289. Ness and His Family 2:4510. False Alarm 1:1211. The Untouchables 3:0412. Four Friends 2:5013. Machine Gun Lullaby 7:08BONUS TRACKS14. Mood Indigo 3:41(D. Ellingon, I. Mills, B. Bigard)15. Al Capone–Part II (vers. 1) 1:3916. Machine Gun Lullaby–Part 1 (no celeste) 4:5817. On the Rooftops (no saxophone) 2:3418. Here Endeth the Lesson (alternate) 0:1619. Love Theme From The Untouchables 4:07performed by Randy EdelmanTOTAL DISC TIME: 56:47TOTAL ALBUM TIME: 112:12* not used in film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Just to let you know Batman Mask of the Phantasm is just about sold out. We have 50 copies remainingWe have 30 copies left of Teen Titans Trouble in Tokyo as wellGrab 'em before they are gone!MV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Talking of "DHWAV", has anyone spotted the cheeky quote of "Singin' In The Rain" when McClaine is being chased in through the tunnel by all the water? A nice touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 MV's current avatar for the Black Friday releases is great!Larger version from LLL's Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'm gonna guess Home Alone 2, Die Hard 2 and The Untouchables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Die Hard 2 is a bad guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Batman is goneAbout 10 copies of Teen Titans leftMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Still surprised it lasted this long. Phantasm is fabulous score.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Aww, shit. I was just about to grab it later tonight too. ): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 It seems to be still available from Screen Archives.I'd make my decision swift, if I were you.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 GOING OUT OF PRINT 12/31/12!Get the following for only $2.98 each before they are gone: HAUNTED HONEYMOON, SPEECHLESS, DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS, BEACH BLANKET BINGO and HELL’S BELLES. And get the following for only $4.98 each: HAUNTED SUMMER and THEATER OF BLOOD. Only at www.lalalandrecords.comAll of us here in La-La Land wish you a wonderful, safe holidays and a happy and healthy New Year! Thanks for supporting us – we couldn’t have made ten years without you! Here’s to ten more, starting more exciting releases in 2013!From the official LLL Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Haunted Honeymoon and Haunted Summer are both excellent scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 And so it begins...the timely disappearance of the La-La Land website to be reborn as a bustling center of commerce. BRING IT ON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 58847Home Alone 2, Die Hard 3 and The Untouchables for me.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Order #59195 for me, I had a ton of trouble getting it to recognize me and then I had to re-enter my CC number anyone for some reason, frustratingAnyway, I only ordered Die Hard 3, so that it will ship today since HA2 is delayed. I'll order HA2 at a later time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I got inavoidably distracted just as I went to make a purchase, and so it will probably cost me at least DH3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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