Poll: Tintin extended edition preference

[Gurkensalat 336]

After comparing the OST and the FYC of Tintin I asked myself, how a future expanded edition should look like. Tintin is a complicated case because of 2 recordings sessions and a lot of small edits and differences between alternates in those two recordings.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

I'd like it to be done in the format that La-La Land is using with the complete score (preferably without the micro-edits) on the first disc and extra cues (like the alternate main titles) on the second disc.

[Gurkensalat 336]

But what is the complete score in this case? Therefore my 3 options.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Then they could do it like the La-La Land Star Trek set, which featured the complete score, the rejected score, and extras.

Is anybody sure how much they recorded in the first sessions though?

[Jilal 569]

Disc 1 - 2

The final version of the score (combining the first and second sessions) as intended to go with the picture, without any edits not meant to join different takes.

Disc 2 cont. (and possibly 3?)

Bonus material: cues from either sessions that were left unused or rewritten and The Adventure Continues with dialogue and SFX from the film.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,488]

"Tintin" expanded? Life's too short.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

No it isn't!

[RedBard 71]

Well, the best way to determine the complete score is to have the cue sheet for the film first.

Does anyone here have it? I don't know if it's listed in the The Complete Cue Lists thread.

Update: Just checked. There's no complete cue list for Tintin (2011) in that tread.

Another Update: Found it: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20915

Yet Another Update: If anyone were by chance to have the full score for this film, I'd be more than happy to digitally recreate the unreleased tracks.

[Jay 37,249]

RedBard it's spelled Tintin, not TinTin.

[Wojo 2,453]

Can't you just change his post, or implement an automatic word correction algorithm? We used to have one that would put the symbols into curse words. Or seriously, we are going to Tin type Tin as Tin often Tin as Tin we Tin Tin can.

[Jay 37,249]

Holy shit, I could actually do that....

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Don't you dare!

[Wojo 2,453]

Hell, it could even automatically convert Stef into Steef. The possibilities are limitless.

Erm, no, then we'd get Steefancos and Steefan.

[RedBard 71]

Fixed.

Really? You can do word correction algorithms on this forum?

See if you can do it to change my name to RedBeard every time it's typed into a post.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

OCD idiocy!

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Yeah! People will think you are mad!

[Jay 37,249]

The filters don't edit existing posts, sillyheads.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Honestly, who would you introduce a filter for something that just annoys you?

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

You can go fack yourselv!

[RedBard 71]

Alright. We get it. Word changing algorithms are not really worth discussing here on this thread.

We now bring you back to your regularly scheduled thread concerning Tintin.

I personally would love to see a complete soundtrack, including the missing cues.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Leave the moderating to the moderators, thank you!

[RedBard 71]

I don't see you making any effort to steer this thread in the right direction.

And you're welcome, btw. ^_^

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I am an agent of chaos!

[RedBard 71]

Right, and I'm secretly Trent Reznor's ghostwriter.

[Jay 37,249]

I don't see why a release of the complete score of Tintin would be complicated at all.

You'd simply have all the cues as Williams recorded them, in the original intended order, filling up the first disc and I dunno, maybe twenty minutes of the second. Whenever more than one version of a cue was recorded, the final one written (or the original with inserts added) would be used.

Then, on the second disc after the main program ends, you'd have all those earlier versions of the cues in a bonus track section, again in film order.

Easy peasy.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

But obviously Williams intentions differed between the first and second scoring sessions....

Which is the more valid one?

[RedBard 71]

So from what I can see, 40 some odd cues are missing from the current commercially available soundtrack:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Adventures-Tintin-Secret-Unicorn/dp/B005KWAWJ2

In light of this information (and the current market for film soundtracks), I can't see Jay's idea for a complete soundtrack as anything other than an LP Release through either Intrada or LLL, because there's no way Sony Masterworks is gonna touch this soundtrack at this point.

[King Mark 3,624]

First option

As it is this is my least favorite Williams adventure score, but I feel the complete score + early sessions could change my mind

[RedBard 71]

The first option being this?

http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/B005KWAWJ2

And not an LP release of the complete score? Just trying to clarify your statement.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

It's just not important. This score along with Crystal Skull are forgettable cookie cutter Williams. His heart just wasn't in it, although Tintin moreso seems to have all the trappings of the classic whimsical Williams fantasy/adventure scores. Unfortunately, it's soulless.

[King Mark 3,624]

There's something missing. Like he forgot to mix in one of the ingredients

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Its far better then KOCS!

[King Mark 3,624]

no!

I believe KotCS still has all the "I want every second of music" thing going for it

[crocodile 7,973]

There's something missing. Like he forgot to mix in one of the ingredients

I like the score very much. I think what you mean is that it's a A-caliber score with no A-caliber theme to drive it. Tintin's own theme is basically a secondary idea in his own score.

Karol - who enjoys both

[King Mark 3,624]

yes, something like that

The heroic Tintin theme is good, but there's not enough of it

[crocodile 7,973]

Yes, all the themes from Tintin are excellent "secondary" themes but there seems to be that one missing.

Kinda like The Hobbit for most people, really.

It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the remaining material but it seems scores like that require that one crucial ingredient. The one that dominates over everything else.

Or perhaps it's just an old-fashioned idea?

Karol

[Datameister 2,034]

Tintin isn't anywhere near as enjoyable for me as I wanted it to be, but I'd still snatch up an expanded release.

My preference is simple: I just want every single cue that was recorded, without any edits. The order doesn't especially matter to me, as long as I know what's what. I suppose my preference would be to just present the first recording sessions, followed by the later ones (or vice versa).

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

The Pursuit Of The Falcon

[BloodBoal 7,538]

Interesting that Williams scored two pursuits of two different falcons.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Clearly, Tintin is superior.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Indeed! 1980's Williams scores are too fanfaric and bombastic.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Wojo 2,453]

I like beer better.

[Thor 7,451]

I chose "other". And I don't believe I need to specify.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Tintin is great. It may lack a truly distinctive main theme but the stylistic flair and pure fun factor more than make up for it.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Less music than what ended up on the OST would be most preferable.

[Luke Skywalker 1,792]

yeah riiiight.

Oh your avatar is Eric Serra's Goldeneye.

Yes, your opinion is very reliable