Jay 37,336 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 50 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: So, let's say I have an audio file in which the music sounds really distant. What would be the best tool to use in an audio editing software to try to "improve" the quality as much as possible (if there is any)? Rambo 2 end credits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Other than boosting overall gain and certain high frequencies to imitate greater presence, I'm not sure. Maybe widen the stereo image as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 There are tools that help with this. Google deverb and noise gate. Like this: https://rxcookbook.izotope.com/reducing-reverb-rx-de-reverb-module Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Can someone help me, I've just been listening to the main titles from Missouri Breaks and it suddenly dawned on me that I've heard that cool little highlight somewhere else. Did Stir Crazy borrow it for the rodeo breakout scenes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 On 20/08/2016 at 9:50 PM, TheWhiteRider said: Other than boosting overall gain and certain high frequencies to imitate greater presence, I'm not sure. Maybe widen the stereo image as well? On 20/08/2016 at 11:56 PM, karelm said: There are tools that help with this. Google deverb and noise gate. Like this: https://rxcookbook.izotope.com/reducing-reverb-rx-de-reverb-module Forgot about that. Thanks for the answers. Will look into that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Let's say JW is recording a cue, 1m1, for a film. As he will want to orchestra to perfect this cue, he will probably make them play it multiple times. How many takes of a cue are normally recorded? Second, will the final (film) version of the cue be entirely one take or will it be a combination of multiple takes, typically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 How many takes recorded varies so greatly from situation to situation, hard to give a meaningful average The final film version will be an edit of many takes. The trailer cue from Hook is only a minute long has 7 intercuts using pieces of 4 different takes! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 50 minutes ago, Will said: Let's say JW is recording a cue, 1m1, for a film. As he will want to orchestra to perfect this cue, he will probably make them play it multiple times. How many takes of a cue are normally recorded? Second, will the final (film) version of the cue be entirely one take or will it be a combination of multiple takes, typically? JW also rehearses quite a bit before a take. For example, he might tell the orchestra to remove their clicks and only follow him. He'll fine tune their performance then say "ok, lets try it with click" if its a tightly timed sequence. This is something he certainly prefers not to do. In the Star Wars original trilogy, I don't know if they ever used click. Those cues are very much free timed. Again, the exception will be a cue that is heavily precisely timed. As far as I know, even sequences like Indies first adventure are not to click but punches and streamers which he always uses. Basically, a punch and a streamer means that he has to be at a specific spot when a punch or streamer (a 2 second line across the screen) ends. So between those moments he is free to conduct but has to land at that right spot. This is not so different from how an opera conductor must keep focus on the stage action and the singers idiosyncrasies but ultimately keep a 100 piece orchestra together. They have to be precise and flexible at the same time. The final tracks are frequently edited. The princess Leia theme from SW 77 was a mix of several takes but all were done in 30 minutes and all takes sight read and recorded. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Indy's Very First Adventure is definitely recorded to a click track - you can hear it bleeding through all over the recording (especially noticeable on the Concord CD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just now, Jay said: Indy's Very First Adventure is definitely recorded to a click track - you can hear it bleeding through all over the recording (especially noticeable on the Concord CD) Ok, my bad. It is surprising since he frequently performs this live in concert without click but only punches and streams and in a live performance you only get one chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 That is a wonderful part of a JW concert when he does that! @Will to give you an example, here is a list of all the slates used for each cue in Empire of the Sun http://www.jwfan.com/?p=6800 And that doesn't even tell you how many intercuts happened Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 16 minutes ago, Jay said: That is a wonderful part of a JW concert when he does that! @Will to give you an example, here is a list of all the slates used for each cue in Empire of the Sun http://www.jwfan.com/?p=6800 And that doesn't even tell you how many intercuts happened So a slate = a take? @Jay Do the "complete unedited" Potter 1 sessions actually contain cues often made up of various takes intercut together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I think in some session leaks they are specific takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 30 minutes ago, Fennel Ka said: I think in some session leaks they are specific takes. But not in all, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Probably not. Some sessions leaks actually have multiple takes like the Schindler's List sessions or Horner's Battle Beyond the Stars, some sessions leaks consist of only multiple takes of one cue, or small group of cues. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Will said: So a slate = a take? @Jay Yes. Quote Do the "complete unedited" Potter 1 sessions actually contain cues often made up of various takes intercut together? Yes. The reason the Diagon Alley film version and Owl's Flight in that leak have multiple takes is because those cues weren't used in the final film. [at least, the first half of Diagon Alley wasn't, before the Gringotts part) 1 hour ago, Fennel Ka said: I think in some session leaks they are specific takes. Indeed. The old Hook bootlegs, for example, are complete unedited takes, not the intercuts assembled for the final film (other than the stuff they just took from the OST, of course) 15 minutes ago, Fennel Ka said: Some sessions leaks actually have multiple takes like the Schindler's List sessions Man, that is such a cool leak for that very reason. I'd kill to have a leak like that for other JW scores. It's too bad leaks like that are extremely rare! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Was this source cue written by JW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, Fennel Ka said: Yes. Interesting. Maybe some left overs from Gilligan's Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Hi, I wonder what JW score to listen when making a spaghetti sauce. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 The Fury. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Splashhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Bespin said: Hi, I wonder what JW score to listen when making a spaghetti sauce. Thanks! CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE PURÉED KIND, SUPERHAM, A.I. ARTIFICIAL INGREDIENTS, HAM ALONE. Gnome in Plaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Two ham jokes? Rather ham-fisted, wouldn't you say? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Just call me Ham Solo That's three you owe me, junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 So does anyone know what the average "name" composer will make for mainstream, tent pole pic vs. what Williams (or someone near his stature) will make? Will the more prominent ones like Williams or Zimmer get points? Obviously I know this can probably vary greatly, but I really have no idea how much these guys make for a score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 It depends of course. On the budget of the film, on the negotiating skills of the composers agent etc etc. We can assume Williams earned a lot more from TFA than from The Book Thief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 It is very complicated. An A-lister can get 1.5 million per film for the creative fee of writing the score. Composers do not receive royalties for domestic theatrical release. Orchestrators, performers, and conductors do but these are threshold based (the film has to hit a certain high profitability which is not often achieved except for blockbusters or hits. The music budget might allow the composer to hire themselves as orchestrator and conductor (allowing for royalty payments). Royalties can be quite lucrative if you have a string of hits that get repeatedly played on TV or around the world. They get royalties for international theatrical releases or broadcasts. Some A list composers will waive their fees if it is a passion project or they are trying to break into a new genre. Jerry Goldsmith received no payment for a film he wanted to do in the 1980's when he was typecast for Rambo style bombast and wanted to do something different. I forget what it was but you see this is not that unusual for composers to dip into their own pockets if they want to break away from what they always do and no one thinks of them in that way. Will and Nick1Ø66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Very detailed answer! Thanks much for the info. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised that composers don't get royalties but orchestrators and conductors do? I'd think it would be the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Composers get royalities from the albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 A question for all our computer bods, out there. I know it's possible to change avatars, but...why, if you change your avatar, does it change the avatar on all your posts, and not just posts made from the time that the avatar is changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 The previous avatar images aren't stored anywhere. When you change it, it updates all posts automatically since it's pulling the info from your profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Ooh! Thank you, nighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 44 minutes ago, Richard said: A question for all our computer bods, out there. I know it's possible to change avatars, but...why, if you change your avatar, does it change the avatar on all your posts, and not just posts made from the time that the avatar is changed? The database table holding the posts only holds the post content, and the ID of the user who made it. So when the site is displaying your post on the screen, its uses your ID to go to the Users table, and grab your current username, byline, avatar, gender, location, signature, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 ...and thank you, Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I never said that I wanted different avatars. I just wondered why all avatars change. Now I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I like it. Very HITCH-HIKER'S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 It's a US-only pop culture reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_More_You_Know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Thanks for that. The logo is by R. Greenberg And Associates. Anyone who did the main titles for SUPERMAN, is ok by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Question about MIDI files I have collected a bunch of excellent JW MIDI transcriptions that I studied by playing the separate instruments to see who plays what. However, I just discovered that MIDI files don't just have different instruments, but also different tracks. For instance: preset 48 is a general string ensemble, but some of the files have tracks like 'violin, double bass' even though they are all collected in preset 48, while others use preset 40 for violins. So, my question is: Is there a way to rename those tracks to their appropriate instruments (so the track viola has to be in preset 41 instead of 48)? I'm very interested to study the individual string sections, but the app I currently use, MIDI transform, can only change instruments but not tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 For someone who has never watched Game of Thrones, I am told it is something I would absolutely love. What is it about this show that captivates its audiences into such ravenous fandom? Basically, I need a sort of crash course on why it's great without too many spoilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 It's a sprawling story covering many characters and locations, it's scope it bigger than most shows made. It starts out being kind of an interesting political examination in medieval setting, but as the episodes and seasons go on more fantasy (magic and creatures) elements enter the show. Also, they were totally on point with casting; there's a ton of GREAT actors employed by the show. Don't expect anything out of its original score, though. Nothing special there outside of the brilliant main title music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 6 hours ago, karelm said: For someone who has never watched Game of Thrones, I am told it is something I would absolutely love. What is it about this show that captivates its audiences into such ravenous fandom? Basically, I need a sort of crash course on why it's great without too many spoilers. On YouTube, there is a 7-minute catch-up, narrated by (I think) Sam Jackson. Personally, I've never seen a single frame of this show, so I am unable to educate you as to its merits, or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Have you ever seen Verhoeven's Flesh + Blood? It's just like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 7 hours ago, Stefancos said: Have you ever seen Verhoeven's Flesh + Blood? It's just like that! No, I haven't seen that either. Is Game of Thrones serial so it's hard to jump in mid way through? Basically, like Lost you had to watch each episode in order otherwise it doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 It is absolutely pointless to not start with episode one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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