chuck 154 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I hope JW will compose a Next Generation theme for SW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I was reading reviews of AOTC score by Williams, all reviews were looking very good but then I came across this one which made me laugh."DEFINITELY NOT A DISAPPOINTMENT-just as good as the movie" Ahh AotC, one of the most hated scores on JWFan...Being part of the minority that likes the score here, I can't say why.I think its a great score, Across the Stars alone is enough to make me love the score. The Arena music, also great (even though hardly used in the film). fuhrsy31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 The love theme Across The Stars, although lovely, was pretty old school. It's very rare to hear that kind of love theme these days and back in 2002, that's starting to become a fossil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I seriously have two friends who are not soundtrack collectors or John Williams fans, but own the AOTC soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I love Across the Stars. I think that's why I love it so much, it's beautiful and you don't really hear anything like it these days. fuhrsy31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieC 13 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Across the Stars sure is a lovely theme. It really does encapsulate the melancholy at the heart of Anakin and Padme's love for each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Music question regarding Attack of the Clones... The scene where Anakin searches for his mother, was Duel of the Fates tracked in or was it newly recorded for this scene? Was Duel of the Fates always meant to used for this scene or did Williams have something different in mind? I ask because I'm not understanding why Duel of the Fates was used for the montage except that it works with the visuals. I don't believe Duel of the Fates was used elsewhere in the film... correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 It's a new arrangement of DOTF written specifcally for that scene, and it's the only version of that cue he wrote - it didn't replace some earlier, different version or anything.And no, DOTF was not used in any other AOTC cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Yeah, it's mm. 79-102 from 4M4 Arrival at Tatooine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 It represents an inner struggle going on in Anakin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Or Lucas' lack of inner struggle about making questionable spotting choices. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Thanks and I just found this... http://www.jwfan.com/?p=3417. Can't believe I've never seen this analysis after all these years.It says this about the montage:The scene parallels Luke in A New Hope, and the music clinches the likeness: Williams uses the exact same orchestration … only instead of resolving the theme, he shifts into a minor mode and launches into “Duel of the Fates” for the subsequent search montage. It’s a new arrangement with some subtle electronic effects. Lucas must not have approved of the way Williams wound it down, because he spliced on a slam-bang finale from The Phantom Menace (TPM:UE Disc 2, Track 27 [2:04-2:10/2:14-2:17]) that ruins the effect. Gnome in Plaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Thanks and I just found this... http://www.jwfan.com/?p=3417. Can't believe I've never seen this analysis after all these years.It says this about the montage:The scene parallels Luke in A New Hope, and the music clinches the likeness: Williams uses the exact same orchestration … only instead of resolving the theme, he shifts into a minor mode and launches into “Duel of the Fates” for the subsequent search montage. It’s a new arrangement with some subtle electronic effects. Lucas must not have approved of the way Williams wound it down, because he spliced on a slam-bang finale from The Phantom Menace (TPM:UE Disc 2, Track 27 [2:04-2:10/2:14-2:17]) that ruins the effect.Great analysis. One thing confuses me, though: what "electronic effects?" I don't hear any in that cue, at least not in the OST version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 The quiet synth voices in the earlier parts of the passage come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 The quiet synth voices in the earlier parts of the passage come to mind.Didn't realize until now that was a synth - I guess I'd always just thought it was higher-register voices mixed really low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I think only Joe hates it. This. I think a good portion of the rest of us do like it. The album is the best Prequel album in terms of presentation and editing that we have had. As we all know the Star Wars games, especially The Old Republic gave us a ton of new previously unreleased music, which in my opinion has helped the listening experience.'Hate' seems a strong word - to me it implies that even playing it in the background would be unbearable.I just find it boring, and one of the best examples for me of the music being technically excellent, but emotion being largely absent.I've always liked Escape from Coruscant though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 but emotion being largely absent.Probably because you didn't bring it with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 That analysis for AOTC was good for its time but is a bit out-dated...especially with all the new music that surfaced from The Old Republic.By the way I for one find myself enjoying AOTC more every time I listen to my edit. I have learned to appreciate it a lot more. Yes it's still the weakest of the scores but it's nice to listen to when you want to have more or less soft music playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 That analysis for AOTC was good for its time but is a bit out-dated...especially with all the new music that surfaced from The Old Republic.What do you mean exactly?EDIT: Oh, I think I know what you mean. Does The Old Republic have music that is no longer "unreleased" according to the analysis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 That analysis for AOTC was good for its time but is a bit out-dated...especially with all the new music that surfaced from The Old Republic.What do you mean exactly?EDIT: Oh, I think I know what you mean. Does The Old Republic have music that is no longer "unreleased" according to the analysis?Well sadly it doesn't have unused music like TPM and ROTS. Despite a lot of cues having clean intros and endings the music in between was from the films music only stems. I'm not sure why the game music editors chose to use those instead of the true sessions like with TPM and ROTS material that has surfaced in the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 It has been suggested those cues were taken from what would have been on the supposed Ultimate Edition of AOTC, which is why the pieces are edited . Apparently, the AOTC UE was never going to happen. I think this was debated in another thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 There was no planned U.E. for AOTC as I stated Mike Matessino had told me such and I trust his word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Does anyone know anything about this music? Where is came from and who wrote it? It can also be heard in "The Phantom Menace" game from '99, so it was around at least 5 years before KoTOR II. This tune may play in some other Star Wars games, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I have a memory of jumping up on the stage and being attacked by the wookiee in the band.http://www.petermc.com/Ask that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Does anyone know anything about this music? Where is came from and who wrote it? It can also be heard in "The Phantom Menace" game from '99, so it was around at least 5 years before KoTOR II. This tune may play in some other Star Wars games, too. I don't know, but it's both hideous and catchy at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 That would most likely be the work of the (in)famous Jeremy Soule. Although if it's been around that long, maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I think Brian Eno wrote that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Maybe it was one of the protagonist's room radio tunes from X-WIng Alliance, which came before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 What is the instrument (if any) or the sound used at 3:21? Is it a gong with some type of mallet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It sounds like a synth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Yeah, that's gotta be synth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 It's creepy. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Can we all acknowledge how awesome the last 30 seconds or so of "Jango's Escape" is? Weirdly medieval, but so great. Starting at 3:08: Arpy and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Reminds me of the bit at 0:22 in "Detention" from HP1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I hear a surprising amount of Harry Potter sounding material in the first two Star Wars prequel scores. Especially AOTC and CoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Well, AOTC and CoS were written the same year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 His output became very samey in those years. The later Star Wars scores sounded more and more interchangeable with his other scores from the era. It didn't help that the films were, in my opinion, poorly spotted, resulting in simply too much music and many forgettable cues for inconsequential scenes. Williams didn't break much new ground. It would have been literally impossible to track music from Star Wars into The Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi and have any continuity with the rest of the score, for instance. But they had no trouble tracking the prequel scores into each successive film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 You're right, they were very interchangeable. I remember listening to a track from CoS and I thought it was from AOTC... it kind of blew my mind at the time. It was more so the quieter moments rather than action cues, but the Coruscant chase music did end up in CoS and worked fine with the scene. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 You're right, they were very interchangeable. I remember listening to a track from CoS and I thought it was from AOTC... it kind of blew my mind at the time. It was more so the quieter moments rather than action cues, but the Coruscant chase music did end up in CoS and worked fine with the scene.You're thinking of Quidditch Match, in fact Williams did lift a lot of that from the Chase Through Coruscant. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You can actually hear a hint of The Clash of Lightsabers from ESB in that cue as wellBTW I don't hear any pitch content from Jango's Escape at all in that HP cue. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Does anyone else notice the similarities between the Grievous' theme and Nuclear Man's theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Anyone know what cue 1:37 is tracked in from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Obi-wan Eavesdropping > The Arrival at Tatooine > original Cue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 What's the instrument at 0:21 in the left channel? Some times I have trouble identifying instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 It's the horn section playing a glissando, in the case of the horn also known as a 'rip' (think of it as a seemless slide between two notes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 8 horns I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Awesome. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 8 horns I think.AOTC is orchestrated for 6 horns, so I suspect that's the case for TPM as well.It's about time Williams sneaks a pair of tuben into his scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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