Jay 37,359 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 The AICN report was wrong, Giacchino debunked this story on his twitter!https://twitter.com/m_giacchino/status/466603039701622784That's what Ain't It Cool News is reporting, from this article about Giacchino scoring Jurassic WorldOn top of his work on films like UP (which won him an Oscar), SPEED RACER, and nearly all of J.J. Abrams' projects, he approximated Williams' E.T. and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND scores for Abrams' SUPER 8, and is working alongside the legendary composer on STAR WARS: EPISODE VII. He's also done a great job incorporating a franchise's iconic score into the last two MISSION: IMPOSSIBLEs, so I think he'll do a better job of utilizing Williams' classic themes than Davis did in JP III.(Bolding mine)http://www.aintitcool.com/node/67282Discuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Giacchino has been one of the hottest names in the film score game for a few years now, and is far closer in credibility to Mr. Williams than Davis ever was.Pure bullshit. Like Williams, Davis is an established concert composer, which is why he was the perfect choice to replace Williams on JPIII. Davis is aware of the latest threads in contemporary music, has an incredible sense of craft, and a well-defined musical footprint. Giacchino is a lightweight in comparison. Ricard and karelm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Yeah, Giacchino is doing all the themes and Williams will be "adapting and conducting". Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 he approximated Williams' E.T. and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND scores for Abrams' SUPER 8 is working alongside the legendary composer on STAR WARS: EPISODE VII.PLEASE NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 The Ain't It Cool News article writers gives no source for his statement, so there's really no credibility to this at all.On the other hand, it makes sense that if Williams thinks he won't be scoring Episodes 8 and 9, that maybe he'd want Giacchino to be a part of the scoring process for 7 so when the baton is passed, he's more ready for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Oh no I like Giacchino but JW needs no help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 This article doesn't have much credibility to it. I doubt its true.But Giacchino will probably be at the booth during the recording sessions.Giacchino has been one of the hottest names in the film score game for a few years now, and is far closer in credibility to Mr. Williams than Davis ever was. Pure bullshit. Like Williams, Davis is an established concert composer, which is why he was the perfect choice to replace Williams on JPIII. Davis is aware of the latest threads in contemporary music, has an incredible sense of craft, and a well-defined musical footprint. Giacchino is a lightweight in comparison.Ditto.Davis >>>> Giacchino karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Preposterous! Ridiculous! Scurrilous! Blasphemous! Humbug! Harrumph!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 390 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 God, I hope this isn't true, and I can't for the life if me think of a good reason why it would be, except if there's already a scheduling conflict, and Williams is only to offer themes and some set-pieces, and Giacchino is set to adapt. Williams seems very invested in this project, so I would be suprised. Unless it's a Spielberg-project...Unfortunately, I have yet to be impressed by Giacchino, and I remain less than convinced about his level of craftsmanship. He would need to hire a really good orchestrator/composer's assistant to help "bridge the gap"...But it could be that Williams has already decided to retire from the Star Wars saga, with Episode VII sort of leaving the gate open for the next composer. And given that Giacchino is Abrams' "go to" guy, it could make some sense, I suppose.Williams doesn't strike me as the kind of composer whose method would really be conducive to "joint ventures", and I would be surprised if he'd be comfortable writing alongside somebody else. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 he approximated Williams' E.T. and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND scores for Abrams' SUPER 8 is working alongside the legendary composer on STAR WARS: EPISODE VII. PLEASE NO.Thank you my friend...THANK YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Maybe he's gonna be conducting and recording with the LSO in England since Williams probably doesn't want to fly out. I fucking hope that's all it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'm fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 It's written as a throw-away line. Probably just a mistake or misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 Maybe he's gonna be conducting and recording with the LSO in England since Williams probably doesn't want to fly out.I fucking hope that's all it is.Giacchino doesn't conduct. Tim Simonec conducts mosts of Gia's scoresIt's written as a throw-away line. Probably just a mistake or misunderstanding.I think so too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 oh god, this is scaring the crap out of me. Suddenly I turned livid reading this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I am waiting for more reliable Bothan spies to bring extra information on the matter before turning livid, dyspeptic and disheartened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Gia doesn't conduct his own compositions? Pfft, that makes sense actually. I agree with the late John Barry on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Gia doesn't conduct his own compositions?Pfft, that makes sense actually. I agree with the late John Barry on that one.Neither does JNH nor a good number of current film composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Gia doesn't conduct his own compositions?Pfft, that makes sense actually. I agree with the late John Barry on that one.Neither does JNH nor a good number of current film composers.Indeed. Says a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Gia doesn't conduct his own compositions?Pfft, that makes sense actually. I agree with the late John Barry on that one.Neither does JNH nor a good number of current film composers.Indeed. Says a lot.Indeed. About us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 That's why JNH was never top tier for me. Nor David Arnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 You must consider The Omen trilogy one of Goldsmith's worst then? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 This is how rumors and misinformation spread. If it doesn't come from Lucasfilm/Disney, then don't believe it or spread it. Yes, rumors can turn out to be true, but if it isn't announced by Lucasfilm/Disney, then it is still just a rumor. Let all the casting rumors be the example, except for the rumors about the original actors, which was obvious they were returning. The official announcement about Williams returning doesn't mention him working with Giacchino or any other composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 You must consider The Omen trilogy one of Goldsmith's worst then? KarolI only know the first score! And Goldsmith was a badass who could do whatever the hell he liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Please let this "rumor" be debunked NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 You must consider The Omen trilogy one of Goldsmith's worst then? KarolI only know the first score! And Goldsmith was a badass who could do whatever the hell he liked.I meant that he didn't conduct any of them. (Well, he might have the second one)Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'd never recover from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I don't think Giacchino would want this himself, would he? Didn't he say something about wanting John Williams to do it? I reckon he's bright enough to know what this film needs.Besides, it sounds like a blurb. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 You must consider The Omen trilogy one of Goldsmith's worst then? KarolI only know the first score! And Goldsmith was a badass who could do whatever the hell he liked.I meant that he didn't conduct any of them. (Well, he might have the second one)KarolWe should add Danny Elfman to the list of non-conductors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Those hack bastards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Seriously this is the most disturbing thread in the past 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Those hack bastards!Rebel scum I say! Should be rounded up and whipped, tarred and feathered and sent into the wilderness of East Hollywood naked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Disturbing? No. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I see only one way this could possibly be trueThat due to his advancing age Williams is no longer able to compose all the cues, but he looked in good shape last we know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Disturbing and hilarious? Sounds like one of Augie's trolling threads. You must consider The Omen trilogy one of Goldsmith's worst then? Karol I only know the first score! Give Omen 3: The Final Conflict a whirl. I reckon you'll love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I don't think Giacchino would want this himself, would he? Didn't he say something about wanting John Williams to do it? I reckon he's bright enough to know what this film needs.Besides, it sounds like a blurb. KarolThis is what Giacchino said in April 2013, before Williams was confirmed and after after Abrams was confirmed to direct:"One of the things that excites me most about 'Star Wars' coming back is chance to hear a John Williams score." "He has been a great teacher to me and good friend and I would love nothing more than to hear more of his music from that universe" and "If it were up to me I would say 'John, you must do it.'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well, remember when in the early 2002 when people were speculating on JW's health based on the Salt Lake City performance?Disturbing and hilarious? Sounds like one of Augie's trolling threads.You must consider The Omen trilogy one of Goldsmith's worst then? KarolI only know the first score!Give Omen 3: The Final Conflict a whirl. I reckon you'll love it.Lee doesn't seem to be very fond of choirs, though.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well, remember when in the early 2002 when people were speculating on JW's health based on the Salt Lake City performance?What was wrong with that? I don't remember it sparked any talk about his health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well, remember when in the early 2002 when people were speculating on JW's health based on the Salt Lake City performance?What was wrong with that? I don;t remember it sparked any rumorsThat he looked unhealthy and people wondered whether he'll be around to do ROTS? It was very bizarre.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well, remember when in the early 2002 when people were speculating on JW's health based on the Salt Lake City performance?Disturbing and hilarious? Sounds like one of Augie's trolling threads.You must consider The Omen trilogy one of Goldsmith's worst then? KarolI only know the first score!Give Omen 3: The Final Conflict a whirl. I reckon you'll love it.Lee doesn't seem to be very fond of choirs, though.KarolWell there are those fantastic french horn fanfares there that might change his mind. The Final Conflict is really worth a spin (or ten)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Final Conflict has some of the best choir pieces in film musicThe first 2 Omen scores creep me out to much to listen to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Watched the film recently. The score literally does all the work. Literally.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Watched the film recently. The score literally does all the work. Literally.KarolIndeed. Better leave the film unwatched and just listen to the album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well, remember when in the early 2002 when people were speculating on JW's health based on the Salt Lake City performance?Disturbing and hilarious? Sounds like one of Augie's trolling threads.You must consider The Omen trilogy one of Goldsmith's worst then? KarolI only know the first score! Give Omen 3: The Final Conflict a whirl. I reckon you'll love it. Lee doesn't seem to be very fond of choirs, though.KarolI'm not? That's odd considering I bathed in Shore's choral heavy Middle-Earth for nearly ten years straight. Or are you basing it on my dislike of the wailing and shrieking heard at the end of Hymn to the Fallen? @Sharky I normally only get to know scores after seeing and enjoying their film. Sadly Jerry scored a lot of crap I'll never watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well, remember when in the early 2002 when people were speculating on JW's health based on the Salt Lake City performance?Disturbing and hilarious? Sounds like one of Augie's trolling threads.You must consider The Omen trilogy one of Goldsmith's worst then? KarolI only know the first score! Give Omen 3: The Final Conflict a whirl. I reckon you'll love it. Lee doesn't seem to be very fond of choirs, though.KarolI'm not? That's odd considering I bathed in Shore's choral heavy Middle-Earth for nearly ten years straight.Or are you basing it on my dislike of the wailing and shrieking heard at the end of Hymn to the Fallen?Well, that, Goldsmith's First Knight, Evil Dead and other things like that. You pointed out that chorus was the reason you disliked those so much. I might not remember correctly.Seriously, though, check this one out. It sounds nothing like the first score: Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Hasn't AITC News posted false stuff in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 is working alongside the legendary composer on STAR WARS: EPISODE VII.... maybe just orchestrating? "Working alongside" does not necessarily mean "composing a part of the score". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Why would Gia be orchestrating? JW has his own people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 For Lee. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLfM1DzJEgI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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