Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Bust out your copy of E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial and listen to the greatest 15 minutes of music John Williams has ever composed, from his greatest score for the greatest Steven Spielberg film there will ever be. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hell yeah. Those saps who keep telling themselves that Johnny's greatest work is still ahead of him give me belly laughs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 BORING score to a BORING film. Wojo and Loert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 It was nothin' like that, penis breath! Taikomochi and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Just listened to this the other day. Truly magnificent stuff. Got me thinking, though...why the hell wouldn't E.T.'s alien buddies just realize he was missing, turn around, and pick him back up? Whole movie could have been over in fifteen minutes. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Brown 91 Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 R.I.P. E.T. Sharkissimo, Dixon Hill and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 listen to the greatest 15 minutes of music John Williams has ever composed, from his greatest score for the greatest Steven Spielberg film there will ever be.If you insist!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5XrrBXASMw Sharkissimo and Loert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 That boring shit's got nuthin' on the unparalleled majesty, grandeur and divine magnificence of Adventures on Earth! Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 This is what this forum has become. They all hate E.T. (and Superman), don't quote Star Trek and basically now prefer Zimmer and Giacchino to Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I don't hate those scores, they're just... obvious, and I don't get much out of repeated listenings. I'm happy to quote Star Trek, and I don't prefer anyone to anyone. It's all good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 ET is one of the greatest scores ever written, it is magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 ET is one of the greatest scores ever written, it is magnificent.Finally, some words of sanity in this thread!The Zimmer-obsessed Pilgrim can go screw himself Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 It made AFI's list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 ET is one of the greatest scores ever written, it is magnificent.Like STAR TREK TMP, it sags in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I like the "saggy" parts. It makes the more bombastic finale feels much more satisfying. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I have programmed them out. The old albums were perfect, as far as i'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ain't gonna argue with that,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Like STAR TREK TMP, it sags in the middle. STTMP sags near the end, before the finale. Later than E.T.. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Let's get our stopwatches, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yes let's celebrate... but isn't it 2 years too late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 ET is one of the greatest scores ever written, it is magnificent.E.T. is indeed one of the greatest scores ever written.Besides the thematic transformation of each theme individually, it's one of a few scores that all the themes connect to each other motivically, one becomes the other and each derives from the other, thus making up a very solid structure.And to provoke such sentiment of great structure, is even harder (i say that because many composers might bring their attention to structure alone, and forget about the emotion that it can enclose) Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 It took me awhile to figure out why tonight is the anniversary of E.T.'s return to his spaceship. I kept thinking that E.T. was released in June, not November, but it is the day after Halloween like in the movie. I must be slipping.I think "Adventures on Earth," is some of the best film music ever composed, regardless of composer. I cannot think of a better example of music complementing images. In Williams' body of work it is up there with:"An Architect's Dream" from The Towering Inferno"Desert Chase" from Raiders of the Lost Ark,"Yoda and the Force" from The Empire Strikes Back,"The Battle of Endor I" from Return of the Jedi,"Journey to the Island' from Jurassic Park"Remembrances" from Schindler's Listand..."Christmas Star" from Home Alone II (Yes. I went there.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well, Adventures of Earth (the concert piece) is good, but Adventure on Earth or Escape/Chase/Saying Goodbye (AKA 11M1 The Rescue/11M3 The Bike Chase/11M4-12M1 The Departure with or without 11M4-12M1 Steven's Fix) is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Yes, I was referring to "Escape/Chase/Saying Goodbye" as it appears on the 2002 20th Anniversary CD, not any concert arrangement. What is Steven's fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 The string passage when they say "Ouch" around 11 minutes in. It is spectacular and only available on the original album track (or the isolated score), as the expanded versions and Erich Kunzel's wonderful re-recording have Williams' original intended version, which I also enjoy despite overwhelming preference for the film version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I just watched the end of E.T. I had noticed previously that the music isn't quite the same as on either of my E.T. CD's but I didn't realize the extra material is so elusive. Indeed it is a lovely string passage. I am not sure if I prefer one version over the other. It's a terrific "patch job," regardless. I have heard the stories about how Spielberg re-edited the end of the film around Williams' music. Perhaps this is one minor musical concession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I don't hate those scores, they're just... obvious, and I don't get much out of repeated listenings. I'm happy to quote Star Trek, and I don't prefer anyone to anyone. It's all good!"Obvious"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 You know, there's nothing about you I find tantalizing. On the contrary, I find you obvious and vulgar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I don't hate those scores, they're just... obvious, and I don't get much out of repeated listenings. I'm happy to quote Star Trek, and I don't prefer anyone to anyone. It's all good!"Obvious"?E=mc2 is obvious but it took a genious to figure it out. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 listen to the greatest 15 minutes of music John Williams has ever composed, from his greatest score for the greatest Steven Spielberg film there will ever be. If you insist!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5XrrBXASMw dust collector or snooze fest. Either work. SS's biggest artistic mistake. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I'm sorry you don't see what I and others see in it. You're really missing out! Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Got me thinking, though...why the hell wouldn't E.T.'s alien buddies just realize he was missing, turn around, and pick him back up? Whole movie could have been over in fifteen minutes.Yeah they waited till he was dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 What a bunch of dicks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 E.T., both film and score, are indubitably awesome! JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Got me thinking, though...why the hell wouldn't E.T.'s alien buddies just realize he was missing, turn around, and pick him back up? Whole movie could have been over in fifteen minutes. Yeah they waited till he was deadThey were moving near light speed. Fifteen minutes for them took days and days to progress on Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 listen to the greatest 15 minutes of music John Williams has ever composed, from his greatest score for the greatest Steven Spielberg film there will ever be. If you insist!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5XrrBXASMw dust collector or snooze fest. Either work. SS's biggest artistic mistake.Hey, don't blame Steven. Stanley Kubrick would've directed A.I. if he hadn't died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 ET is one of the greatest scores ever written, it is magnificent. Like STAR TREK TMP, it sags in the middle. Away from the movie, I largely agree. I normally skip the ET and Me content. But as pure film score the entire work is immaculate. The string passage when they say "Ouch" around 11 minutes in. It is spectacular and only available on the original album track (or the isolated score), as the expanded versions and Erich Kunzel's wonderful re-recording have Williams' original intended version, which I also enjoy despite overwhelming preference for the film version.I have no idea why Williams refuses to include that utterly luscious (and deeply manipulative) passage in subsequent performances; it's one the the best parts of whole score imo. The "intended" original feels deflating by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 listen to the greatest 15 minutes of music John Williams has ever composed, from his greatest score for the greatest Steven Spielberg film there will ever be. If you insist!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5XrrBXASMw dust collector or snooze fest. Either work. SS's biggest artistic mistake.Hey, don't blame Steven. Stanley Kubrick would've directed A.I. if he hadn't died.Yeah and Stanley Kubrick, being the greatest filmmaker who ever lived, would have demonstrated his nihilist perfectionism by ending the film when David is stuck at the bottom of the ocean. He was so above the sappy sentimentalism that Steven Spielberg is so entrenched in! He would never have lowered himself to that level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I have no idea why Williams refuses to include that utterly luscious (and deeply manipulative) passage in subsequent performances; it's one the the best parts of whole score imo. The "intended" original feels deflating by comparison.I love that part too very much, much better than the original but I would believe it's because it sounds indeed like an insert, and like it doesn't belong there..It used to sound to me like an edit, when I didn't know it was a newly composed insert.Before that part, the strings carry the melody and reach a short climax.After that part, the strings again carry the melody and reach a short climax.So the logical thing was the part in between that we're discussing to be carried out by another instrument, and not again strings carrying the melody and reaching a short climax.Also harmonically, the change from the insert to the original one, sounds a bit akward. Like it tripped and fell..(that's where I though it was a recording edit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Honestly, it feels beautifully right to be in there, it doesn't jar to me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I am so glad I found the original OST not too long ago at a used CD bin for 5€. Such a beautiful album and has the film version of the finale, which is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 There is a few slight differences between the film version and the OST version, but you are essentially correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I only listen to the OST even though I also have the '96 and '02 expansions. I have no need for a new release! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 There is a few slight differences between the film version and the OST version, but you are essentially correct.Ah I do not claim to be an expert of this score by no means. Is the film version a sort of edit of the versions we have or an entirely different take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 The film version is essentially identical to the version on the OST. Same takes, everything. The only difference really is that the OST version features a short horn insert at 12:43, right before the big fanfare after E.T. says "I'll be right here".This insert is not used in the film, featured on either the 1996 or 2002 release or is played in any of the recordings made of the Adventures On Earth concert version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Superman is one of the greatest scores ever written, it is magnificent.fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 They're both great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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