#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 The iconic Goldsmith cue, tweaked by Brian Tyler.Like or dislike?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuVnBIXVwcg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 A bit overdone, but, seriously, it could have been worse.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Meh, I still like the original.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVP0AgaYoe4Although, Brian Tyler seems to be following in the footsteps left by Goldsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 I agree. Tyler adds some things that don't need to be there, but he stays true to Jerry's theme.But honestly, could they not have used the old recording with these new, very cool visuals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 The graphics are spectacular; the OTT music is but a shadow of Jerry's original.My subwoofer won't even bother trying to register those lame-arsed BUM-BUMs. And I used to fucking love those bits as well.And the snares... wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I agree. Tyler adds some things that don't need to be there, but he stays true to Jerry's theme.But honestly, could they not have used the old recording with these new, very cool visuals?Nah...they need to make EVERYTHING flashy!!! Including the sound.I obviously like the old recording better, but while this might be a tad bit overdone, I think its still done well enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 My subwoofer won't even bother trying to register those lame-arsed BUM-BUMs. And I used to fucking love those bits as well.They are almost the point of the entire piece. And yes they are too soft.Jerry knew how to land his DUMS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Why did Tyler do away with the high register strings which 'bed' the splendid original? Is that sort of lush warmth no longer trendy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Just to rumble things up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 It's too "touchy feely" now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 It sounds fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 My subwoofer won't even bother trying to register those lame-arsed BUM-BUMs. And I used to fucking love those bits as well.They are almost the point of the entire piece. And yes they are too soft.Jerry knew how to land his DUMS!Yeah, the BOOMs!!! The BOOMs are what made this fanfare so special!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Just to rumble things up Never heard that one before.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 5.1 is great for Jerry's superior original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 It sounds fine to me.It sounds ok, but they messed with Jerry's steamlined, but ultra effective orchestration and instrumentation.This new version has a lot more going on, but it's slightly less effective.Joel McNeely explains it here 5.1 is great for Jerry's superior original.To me it says "it's fuckin' movie time!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 And after that promising epic fanfare, in true Jerry fashion, movies rarely deliver. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 This Tyler monstrosity sounds odd. It sounds like three different ideas welded to together. If it were a car it'd be a cut'n'shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Just to rumble things up Never heard that one before.KarolYou know John Williams tweaked it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 "Monstrosity" is a bit strong isn't it? I think he did a fine job with it...would you have liked Djawadi to have done it instead? The fanfare would have been reduced to some fuzzy pop tune, and your BUM BUMs would sure be affected... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 It sounds fine to me.It sounds ok, but they messed with Jerry's steamlined, but ultra effective orchestration and instrumentation.This new version has a lot more going on, but it's slightly less effective.Joel McNeely explains it here 5.1 is great for Jerry's superior original.To me it says "it's fuckin' movie time!"Yep, Jerry's motto is "less is more". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Not throughout his whole career, but certainly from the 90's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 To me it says "it's fuckin' movie time!"Fuckin' eh! You got that right!How do you like my Pvt Hudson impression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ha ha ha!Although, Alex would take issue with that image - the deviant black shadow directly above Paxton's head completely ruins the composition and framing of the shot. The film is an unmitigated failure as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Here's the Universal Logo timeline: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I don't like the new graphics or the new recording of the music. There was nothing wrong with the existing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I like the graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I like the new version. But the snare drums are too loud at the end, and a little too sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ya, the snare drums was the big problem with this new version. Otherwise, the tribute is decent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTallJodie 59 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Whoa, somehow never noticed the Williams / ET logo. Great, now I have to stick it in my ET edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I dislike it, although the original is so iconic and has been heard so many times, I don't envy Tyler's job. It sounds a little too over the top for my taste, with the snare drums and choir a step too far. Rather than beefing up the existing logo, perhaps they should have merged an older logo's music into the new one to create a sense of history.As for the graphics, I got goosebumps when I saw the lights turning on - always a good sign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,662 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I liked it until the chords he's added over the first bar - it takes away from the simplicity and strength of Goldsmith's melody, and also means a rather sudden change of tone when the 'b' part comes in.Choir is okay I guess - nothing against that really.The graphics are really neat, but he's made the music just a little too layered for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 What a dissapointing new recording. All the oomph and percussive power are lost. Lame ass way to degrade a great fanfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 The rearranged theme is okay -- the original 1997 fanfare is just better, simpler and more powerful. I don't understand the fanfare Universal made about hiring the people at Weta Digital to design a new opening for the 100th anniversary... it's not that impressive but it's clean and well-designed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I liked the 8 bit version better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 392 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Here's what I got from the new version:1. A rising bass line, doubled with choir during the repeat of the A theme.2. Snare drum in the end.3. Transposed down a key.4. Removed cymbal crash when B theme begins.5. Low brass removed from the "DUM DUMs", aka bass/snare drum hits.6. Choir during B theme?Feel free to add more to this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Still like the Horner version the best. I do like the graphics, as I always hated the modern Universal logo. The new arrangement is alright, I just would have done without the military like drums at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Still like the Horner version the best. I do like the graphics, as I always hated the modern Universal logo. The new arrangement is alright, I just would have done without the military like drums at the end.Huh? Horner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,034 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 If this were something new that someone had just come up with, I'd be rather impressed. But it's a downgrade from the spectacular Goldsmith original, which very well be my favorite logo music of all time. (The Fox fanfare gives it a run for its money, for obvious sentimental reasons.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Still like the Horner version the best. I do like the graphics, as I always hated the modern Universal logo. The new arrangement is alright, I just would have done without the military like drums at the end.Huh? Horner? The theme for Universal before Goldsmith's fanfare came along. It's quite good actually. The Goldsmith one is just better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 If this were something new that someone had just come up with, I'd be rather impressed. But it's a downgrade from the spectacular Goldsmith original, which very well be my favorite logo music of all time. (The Fox fanfare gives it a run for its money, for obvious sentimental reasons.)Yeah, that and the fact that David Newman stayed faithful to his father's original orchestration and tweaked it very little when he re-recorded it back in 1997.Still like the Horner version the best. I do like the graphics, as I always hated the modern Universal logo. The new arrangement is alright, I just would have done without the military like drums at the end.Huh? Horner? It's quite good actually. The Goldsmith one is just better I never knew this was made by Horner. Still doesn't even matched up to Goldsmith's though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I think this is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Here's the complete version of Horner's theme which was first heard before Back To The Future Part III. Even though I love Jerry's 1997 theme, Horner is the one I'm that most fond of.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cADCSq9dylo-Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,153 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Seriously overdone. Replaces Goldsmith's careful balance with mindless bombast. As a result, it sounds rather insincere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Lol, i knew you would say that. Funny though, beforr this new recording I would not have considered Goldsmiths original "minimalist".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 typically Universal doesn't have a f'ing clue on how to hand it's vast treasures.Jerry's music is fine, this alternate is FINE, but for the 100th anniversary why not take a look back at the beauty of the music from the 30's intro, the ones that graced their classic horror films.I can hear it in my head as I type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Here's the complete version of Horner's theme which was first heard before Back To The Future Part III. Even though I love Jerry's 1997 theme, Horner is the one I'm that most fond of.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cADCSq9dylo-Erik-Hey, this one is great too! Didn't know it was Horner. I'd say I like both equally, that is Goldsmith's and Horner's.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 The new one is fine...things have to change with the times, and Goldsmth's superb fanfare was due for a spruce-up. Is the new one better? No....is it just - fine? Yep.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 ARRrrrrrgh i hate this version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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