Jay 37,351 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I wouldn't know, I don't have that CD.But hey, at the time they thought that version of The Poseidon Adventure was the best possible, and then a few years back LLL made a new version from better elements.The Long Goodbye was improved upon as wellMaybe better elements can be found for Paper Chase too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 So now we have about a million different options instead of a very few for this next expanded release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 It is exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I hope it's not something lame, in that we don't really need or wanted before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Conrack is not likely to ever get expanded as from what I recall, only those five or six minutes survive. At any rate, there isn't much more music in the film, mostly just a few very short cues.Also, can't imagine expanded editions of The Accidental Tourist, Stanley and Iris or Presumed Innocent. From the first I only recall a couple of little short things missing. The two later ones always sounded complete to me, though I haven't watched any of those films in a long time.And didn't the Cowboys rights belong to Varese in perpetuity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Spacecamp is only missing that 45 second docking fanfare I think. Damn they didn;t include it in the re-issueSabrina possibly has unreleased music...I dunnoA GREAT one would be The Patriot. Plenty of unreleased music, like the film version of "Susan speaks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Spacecamp is only missing that 45 second docking fanfare I think. Damn they didn;t include it in the re-issueSabrina possibly has unreleased music...I dunnoA GREAT one would be The Patriot. Plenty of unreleased music, like the film version of "Susan speaks"Sabrina does have unreleased music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 There was a section of score from The Patriot that I was bummed about its absence from the album, which was when Benjamin and the militia find the remains of the church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 There was a section of score from The Patriot that I was bummed about its absence from the album, which was when Benjamin and the militia find the remains of the church.Oh there were some great unreleased cues in that score. Williams' most unabashedly heroic and flag wavingly patriotic score of the noughties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Yeah, sure, suddenly EVERYONE thinks The Patriot is a great score. What a bunch of hypocrites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Time makes the recollection of the score grow fonder!...er....or...something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Yeah, sure, suddenly EVERYONE thinks The Patriot is a great score. What a bunch of hypocrites!Two people and everyone are two different things entirely BB. And I do think The Patriot to be a pretty nice score indeed. And what's up with this ill humour your posts reflect today? You are snapping at everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It is a good work, just not a great one. And the fact it has been sandwiched between The Phantom Menace/Angela's Ashes and A.I./Harry Potter combos just wasn't good enough at the time.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It's Sony, so it would make sense;But fuck it, i hereby command that nothing will come out till DRACULA is released complete and in glorious stereo sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Few would disagree with that, I'm sure.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 And what's up with this ill humour your posts reflect today? You are snapping at everyone!It's that Hobbit trailer... It's messing with my mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 Maybe La La Land Records could provide one or two subtle hints as to what this next expanded release of the Maestro's music will be, just to add more anticipation. I get tired of coming up with guesses after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Or we could just wait and see. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Or we could just wait and see.That.La-La Land doesn't do the guessing game like Intrada does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 Oh well. I shall continue to wait with great anticipation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 DRACULA is MIA and has been for quite some time. IF a label is working on it, all that has survived is so-so mono elements as far as I know.Sadly that's not just bullshit but LLL's statement on FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 DRACULA is MIA and has been for quite some time. IF a label is working on it, all that has survived is so-so mono elements as far as I know.Sadly that's not just bullshit but LLL's statement on FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 those so-so mono elements rather leak as a footwarmer then... i dont think they are "oficial release quality" material... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 See me crying like a pussy now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 See me crying like a pussy now...I am so sorry for your loss. Your loss is our loss. Oh the horror of having your hopes so cruelly dashed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Given LLL's penchant for hyperbole, it might not be ultimately true, but it doesn't bode well, that's clear. And it's not so much the expansion of DRACULA (though that would be extremely needed, too, mind you!) but that i have to live with the dungeon-like Varése sound is surely a major nuisance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Given LLL's penchant for hyperbole, it might not be ultimately true, but it doesn't bode well, that's clear. And it's not so much the expansion of DRACULA (though that would be extremely needed, too, mind you!) but that i have to live with the dungeon-like Varése sound is surely a major nuisance.And it is not unheard of that better elements could be found by some miracle. It has happened in the past.But it is true that it would be nice to hear the LSO in all its glory rather in that awfully muddled and muffled sound the current CD has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Someone i know is in touch with Eric Tomlinson. Maybe i send them on a date in town while i plunder Eric's garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Someone i know is in touch with Eric Tomlinson. Maybe i send them on a date in town while i plunder Eric's garage.Heh JW fans, a class act indeed. But desperate times need desperate measures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I guess we can cross Fitzwilly off the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Someone i know is in touch with Eric Tomlinson. Maybe i send them on a date in town while i plunder Eric's garage.Looks like James Fitzpatrick already tried that a few years ago in the hope of rescuing several scores engineered by him, but all Tomlinson kept from his days at Denham were the reels from Walton's Battle of Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 God, I hope it's The Eiger Sandtion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Considering MV said they're waiting for JW himself to sign off this release, I think quite safely it will be an expansion of sorts of a Spielberg title. My money's on Empire of the Sun or A.I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm betting on one of those two myself, Maurizio. The latter would be just divine. As much as I like the original album (ignoring the abysmal songs, the presentation is very interesting), there is such a great opportunity to present this score in a more narrative order with improved sound. Not to mention tons of unreleased (commercially) cues.Karol TownerFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 if it is AI, i hope it contains ALL of the promo music.As a bonus (but tricky if they have to pay again the performers) i would like the songs there. And the album alternate of abandoned in the woods.And all the remaining missing music Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 If JW is involved that probably won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,826 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 If JW is involved that probably won't happen.yes.Expect the album arrangements/edits and some more cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Considering MV said they're waiting for JW himself to sign off this release, I think quite safely it will be an expansion of sorts of a Spielberg title. My money's on Empire of the Sun or A.I.Doesn't that just mean it's a score that JW is artistically invested in (not necessarily something by Spielberg)? It could probably be any score from the 70s on, since at that point JW had the power to be choosier with his projects and only score the projects that he was personally invested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 if it is AI, i hope it contains ALL of the promo music.As a bonus (but tricky if they have to pay again the performers) i would like the songs there. And the album alternate of abandoned in the woods.And all the remaining missing music I want the film version of Search for the Blue Fairie...that's about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Doesn't that just mean it's a score that JW is artistically invested in (not necessarily something by Spielberg)? It could probably be any score from the 70s on, since at that point JW had the power to be choosier with his projects and only score the projects that he was personally invested in. And which score would that be?? A. I. - i don't care for complete (90 minutes would be more than enough) but please remixed without Shawn Murphy involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 And which score would that be??A. I. - i don't care for complete (90 minutes would be more than enough) but please remixed without Shawn Murphy involvement.Anything that hasn't already been expanded, from scores like Stanely and Iris to the Patriot. Or one of the Spielbergs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I doubt Williams is heavily invested in any of those if not the Spielberg collabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 How much unreleased music in Stanley and Iris.The album is quite short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Considering MV said they're waiting for JW himself to sign off this release, I think quite safely it will be an expansion of sorts of a Spielberg title. My money's on Empire of the Sun or A.I.Doesn't that just mean it's a score that JW is artistically invested in (not necessarily something by Spielberg)? It could probably be any score from the 70s on, since at that point JW had the power to be choosier with his projects and only score the projects that he was personally invested in.Who knows, I'm just speculating of course, giving the fact Williams directly approved only certain expanded titles so far (SW Trilogy SE, Indy boxset, Jaws, CE3K, E.T., Hook, Jurassic Park).Anyway, his involvement depends only on the studio which owns the music rights. Some studios would never give license to any label small or big without securing Williams' own approval, especially in case of big titles like the above-mentioned ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 A. I. - i don't care for complete (90 minutes would be more than enough) but please remixed without Shawn Murphy involvement. I'm not even sure anymore that Murphy is to blame, since he still did great recordings for Horner and JNH while his JW albums sounded like shit. Perhaps Williams had hearing problems at the time? The other question is how much A.I. can be improved, assuming it's a digital recording (I'm too lazy to check). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 So, is the problem due to hiss or muffledness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Muffledness. Is it hissy as well? Haven't listened to it in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 It sounds like it's recorded in a very bassy closed cucumber jar. I'm certain it's a mastering problem, around that time alot of Williams recordings, i. e. 7 YEARS IN TIBET or THE PATRIOT were plagued by this overbassed but strangely distant sound, none more so than A. I. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 In the case of A.I., I suspect it's a wanted effect, as the whole score seems to be defined by a kind of cold, distant sound to depict the artificiality and a sense of emotional detachment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Yes, I love the watery sound of A.I. - my favourite Williams score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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