indy4 155 Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 I've only seen the film once, long ago, but I think that passage was unscored in the film, right? I think so, yes. But it's quite curious how 20 or so years later he writes such an awesome passage to include in his suite for the score. Can it be considered part of it?I'd say that since the purpose of the poll is to decide what project in the '60s JW did the best score for, you should NOT include stuff that wasn't written after 1969. Of course, it's possible the horse race music was a rejected cue that was indeed written for the film originally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stempel 136 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I like the Heidi Score very much!It was Johnny's first music in the style of the "Star-Wars-Williams".And it´s the only Score that he recorded in my country! crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I voted for the only one I really know ( I have the DVD of the movie)... seems to be the most popular choice :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 So...is the "horse race" music new music, or was it written for, but not used in, the film?Has anyone else seen/heard JW conduct the suite?The horse race scherzo was written specifically for the concert suite, which was prepared by Williams in the early 1980s for one of his very first concerts as Pops' music director. In the actual film, the horse race isn't actually seen in full--it's more a dream-like recollection of the main character, seen in slow motion.I saw JW conducting the concert suite in Chicago in '07 and it was one of the true highlights of the evening. Even better, he put harmonica and banjo in the orchestra, something that usually isn't done when he performs it. Mari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Btw Steef--feel free to log this one whenever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I will log this at the same time as the 2010 poll, sometime next week.The winners of each poll will then go to the "final" poll, after which TESB will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 As it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I guess. I dunno. It's a bit predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The one which should win will unfortunately not be included in the final poll. Idiots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I agree. Would be interesting to see which non-Spielberg/Lucas film related score gets the most votes around here. My guess is Superman followed by the Harry Potters.Which one should win, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Close Encounters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 That or A.I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Lost in Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I've only heard How to Steal a Million and The Reivers, the latter of which didn't do much for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Lost in SpaceDoesnt count! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stempel 136 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 These are the results of the Williams-Poll in 2013 from our german Soundtrack Board:Round 1Round 2Round 3: The Top 20Round 4: The Top 10Round 5: The Top 3 (Finale)Victory Celebration Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 THE REIVERS and i have a soft spot for DADDY'S GONE-A-HUNTING.How is the Daddy's Gone A-Hunting?It's more in the groovy vein of EARTHQUAKE (also a Mark Robson film), but the jazzy chords betray its composer fairly easily.We definitely need a complete score from this film. Post haste! It takes priority! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Lost in SpaceDoesnt count!I wouldn't vote for anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 - Checkmate- Heidi- Fitzwilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You can only vote for one score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You can only vote for one scoreWhy isn't Checkmate listed?? Would JW have scored a James Bond movie, Checkmate is how it would have sounded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,826 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You can only vote for one scoreWhy isn't Checkmate listed??Because he listed only films and not series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I didnt make this poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 What's all this boring shit he wrote for in the 60s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Lost in Space is as much a John Williams score as any of the others listed. But I would also consider Amazing Stories: The Mission and the NBC News music to be Williams scores on the level of his other work from that time period as well. They aren't film scores, but they are just as good, if not better. Jane Eyre was a TV movie, why did that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 I only included film scores (including TV film scores), because that's what Stefan included in his polls. I think that's a perfectly reasonable place to draw the line, and you have to draw it somewhere.Lost in Space would have been weird to include in this poll. If you bunch all the JW scored episodes into one category, then you have fairly varied scores being lumped into one poll option. If you try to separate them out by episode, then you have four entries with 10 - 20 minutes of score each, competing against a bunch of entries with ~60 minutes. Checkmate (which is one of my favorite JW albums, btw) is more of a concept album than a score... a good deal of the music was not written for any specific part of the show, or as source music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Lost in Space is as much a John Williams score as any of the others listed. But I would also consider Amazing Stories: The Mission and the NBC News music to be Williams scores on the level of his other work from that time period as well. They aren't film scores, but they are just as good, if not better. Jane Eyre was a TV movie, why did that count?AMAZING STORIES and NBC are from the 80s, not the 60s (which I'm sure you know).But I agree with indy4. His TV music is a beast onto itself.I'd love to do a "Favourite John Williams score from the 50s" thread too, but that would have HAD to include his tv material, as there was only one film released in that decade (two if you count the air force thing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Wel, next poll will be about JW's TV work, I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stempel 136 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Or his Concertworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The votes on those will somewhat scarce. Although I know I'll be voting for Soundings, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Lost in SpaceDoesnt count!It's the only one that counts Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I know I'm not the only one who has seen and heard practically everyhing he's done since the mid 50s (with some TV exceptions), so you'd be surprised by how active a thread about the 50s, the TV work or the concert works could be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 This poll will run until coming friday, after that any additional votes will not be logged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 This poll is now concluded, any further votes will not be logged. Thank you to Indy4 for making this oneThe Rievers won rather overwhelmingly. I'm guessing that's because it's a well regarded dramatic score, which has a popular concert suite.Heidi coming in second suggest a preference of the more serious scores over the many 60's comedies Johhny Williams scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 JW's 60's comedy scores don't rate very high to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I think those scores are important in that it allowed the Maestro to gain experience, hone his skills, and played a part in letting him become the kind of composer he would become very shortly after. But I don't find them musically interesting in themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 JW's 60's comedy scores don't rate very high to meI dig those!But there's far more to JW's 60s scores than that genre! He also wrote some of his most modernistic music in that decade, especially in the concert world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 especially in the concert world.Irrelevant to this poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 especially in the concert world.Irrelevant to this poll.Yeah, but not everything in this world is about these polls! Just wanted to point out that there's more to discover of Williams' 60s music than the comedy scores (great fun as they are). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 this poll was irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 this poll was irrelevantUnlike other online polls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 So the true Winner is Lost in Space Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The Lost in Space bumper is better than the majority of his 1960s scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,826 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Why the poll isn't visible anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Why the poll isn't visible anymore?http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24716&page=3#entry1039772 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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