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[whoopiecat]

Howdy Folks,
New to the boards, but not to the man's music. Pretty much grew up with the stuff, was about 6-7 when dad took me to see Jaws when it opened on the big screen, and I've loved his scores ever since.
Though this may seem the opinion of a novice, I thought Lucasfilm did a fine job with the SW Trilogy soundtracks. Two discs apiece, and what seems most if not all of the music composed for the films.
So my question would be one that I'm sure has been asked of and answered for many times...
What are the chances they will do the same for the Indy Trilogy? Hopefully, they would recieve the same two disc treatment. I also heard they could be re-recorded. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing. I thought it odd that no remastered scores became available with the release of the Trilogy box.
I last owned most of this stuff on cassette in the early 90's, and had fallen out of touch with movie scores for awhile. Now I find that not only are the Indys OOP, but commanding stupid amounts of cash on ebay. I even managed to miss out on the expanded re-release of ROTLA.
Thoughts? Opinions? Curses? Jeers?
Have a good evening...
Whoopiecat

[king mark]

Complete 2 c.d. releases of the Indy scores is a dream to all of us.No idea when this will happen.

There was rumors of Silva re-recording the scores this year,but no news on that yet.

There is a poor sounding bootleg of the complete Last Crusade if you know where to look.

[bob23]

Complete 2 c.d. releases of the Indy scores is a dream to all of us.No idea when this will happen.

There was rumors of Silva re-recording the scores this year,but no news on that yet.

There is a poor sounding bootleg of the complete Last Crusade if you know where to look.

Re-recording? I sure don't like those. What did they lose the masters or something, or is this a matter of copyright. I hope they release the original recording as 2 disc sets, as I am sure everyone else on the board wants too.

I last owned most of this stuff on cassette in the early 90's, and had fallen out of touch with movie scores for awhile. Now I find that not only are the Indys OOP, but commanding stupid amounts of cash on ebay. I even managed to miss out on the expanded re-release of ROTLA.  
Thoughts? Opinions? Curses? Jeers?

Lol, I spent "stupid amounts of cash" on getting those cds recently, but I think it was worth it, especially since no new score releases are on the horizon.

[BigMacGyver]

The re-recording was only a rumour and Silva already disclaimed such a project.

There have indeed been some rumours that the master tapes from Temple of doom are (partly) lost. However, if you split the channels of the latest DVD of temple, there is a good portion of music that exists without any sound effects on the rear channels, which suggests that at least these portions must have survived in some form. Normally, I would not interpret too much in such rumours but the problem is that Paramount is known for throwing scores away and not caring about preservation especially of film music.

We can only hope that such rumours are not true and that complete score releases for all three films are on the way as we type.

[Drax]

If Silva did do a re-recording, it'd be with The City Of Prague Philharmonic, who sound absolutely dreadful.

[Trent Bennett]

Not that I'm a fan of the Indy scores but it really makes you wonder if the master tapes were really lost or not.

I'm sure LucasArts still has them stored some where and like many of you I am surprised that there hasn't been a complete release for all 3 of the scores since they were recorded in London by the LSO.

[BurgaFlippinMan]

Normally, I would not interpret too much in such rumours but the problem is that Paramount is known for throwing scores away and not caring about preservation especially of film music.
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are the Indys under Paramount or Lucasfilm?

[BigMacGyver]

Sadly Paramount (the music that is).

I'm sure LucasArts still has them stored some where and like many of you I am surprised that there hasn't been a complete release for all 3 of the scores since they were recorded in London by the LSO.

Well, temple of doom was recorded in L.A. and this fact alone makes it a difficult score to release. I am not sure about Last Crusade though.

[Greg1138]

Now I find that not only are the Indys OOP, but commanding stupid amounts of cash on ebay. I even managed to miss out on the expanded re-release of ROTLA.

Hey - don't give up - keep hunting......I picked up the expanded re-release of ROTLA on the Amazon.uk Marketplace only about 18 months ago for about £10 including postage and packing....and Temple of Doom from e-Bay for about £20 inc p&p.......sometimes you just gotta be in the right place at the right time and have some luck on your side......don't give up!

[Erik Woods]

Temple of Doom and Last Crusade were recorded in the US with Union Orchestras.

-Erik-

[Luke Skywalker]

Arent these scores property of Bantha Tracks like the SW scores?

That sounds like Lucasfilm...

[ymenard]

Lucasarts doesn't have anything to do with movie scores and their licensing, it's a video game company

but most of the people write that because they think it's the global big company (it's the most known name after ILM I guess)

[Greg1138]

That sounds like Lucasfilm...

Lucasarts doesn't have anything to do with movie scores and their licensing, it's a video game company

Temple of Doom is indeed Copyright Lucasfilm Ltd. From memory, I think the Sheet music is from Bantha.....though there is no mention of this inthe CD anywhere...

ROTLA soundtrack is also Lucasfilm....

[robthehand]

That sounds like Lucasfilm...

Lucasarts doesn't have anything to do with movie scores and their licensing, it's a video game company

I think he was replying to Vosk:

I'm sure LucasArts still has them stored some where and like many of you I am surprised that there hasn't been a complete release for all 3 of the scores since they were recorded in London by the LSO.

[Luke Skywalker]

Lets hope so becasue i did not made a friggin' typho there (for once )...


EDIT: It is typo, isnt it? oh well....

[Romão]

If the master tapes of TOD are indeed lost, the best thing would be JW to re-record the full score with the LSO

[Mark Olivarez]

Warner Bros released TLC but I was under the impression the rights had expired sometime after 2000 and reverted back to Lucasfilm or Paramount.


I'm sure we'll see them released.


Erik is right, TLC and TOD where both recorded in the states.

[Luke Skywalker]

Warner Bros released TLC but I was under the impression the rights had expired sometime after 2000 and reverted back to Lucasfilm or Paramount.  


I'm sure we'll see them released.  

I suppose warner bros had the rights to distribute the CD, as the same as FOX has the rights to distribute the SW films.

[Mark Olivarez]

I should have clarified my remarks, yes I meant the CD.

[king mark]

Aren't there plenty of scores that got expanded re-issues and were recorded in the states with union musicians?Why not the Indy trilogy then?


K.m.Who finds that excuse rather lame

[whoopiecat]

Wow, talk about asking the right people! Although, this IS the JW Fan network after all, so where else would I get better answers. I'd like to say thanks for all of the responses, and I guess I'll just have to settle in and play the waiting game.
I am amazed though. I can see how "London After Midnight" a lost silent classic from 1927 starring Lon Chaney Sr. can become "lost", but how in heck do you lose the master tapes of a movie score by one of the biggest composers, for one of the most sucessful trilogies ever?
That's mind boggling.
I also agree that the Silva recording with the Prague Symphony of the Trilogy selections is less than satisfying.
Thanks for the encouragement, Greg. I'll keep trying ebay and such.
Does anyone have the expanded Crusade soundtrack? I assume the extra disc of unreleased stuff is some sort of bootleg. How is the sound quality? Is this worth going after.
Again, thanks alot everyone for your input and help

[Delorean90]

I have ChrisCrusherComix's Last Crusade 2-disc release which includes the OST tracks, bootleg tracks, and some DVD extracts he made. I recommend going for that. The sound quality is definitely not good, but I find it highly listenable. It sort of threw me off at first, but I got used to it, and I'm glad I have it.

[king mark]

Yeah,if you don't mind a ton of hiss removal artifacts then it's better than nothing.


K.M.

[Joey]

I have that, and its ok.

[Luke Skywalker]

Even if it was SACD quality, a complete TLC would still be ok for you.

[Greg1138]

Thanks for the encouragement, Greg. I'll keep trying ebay and such.

Go for it! And welcome to the boards

[bob23]

If the master tapes of TOD are indeed lost, the best thing would be JW to re-record the full score with the LSO

That would really suck. Before getting more interested in films, I used to think that the film industry would have been more competent in the area of storage, but now I am beginning to learn the awful truth.

[BigMacGyver]

Before getting more interested in films, I used to think that the film industry would have been more competent in the area of storage, but now I am beginning to learn the awful truth.

Let me just mention:

Kirk Krikorian

Alex North - 2001: "Overrecorded to save space" (what a terrible pun)

Elmer Bernstein - The Hallelujah Trail - destroyed by water (!) damage

[Diego]

It's not just the film industry, for example, some Beatles tapes were erased and are lost forever.

[Richard Penna]

Alex North - 2001: "Overrecorded to save space" (what a terrible pun)

It's very sad that should happen

The cost of storing a single score must be miniscule by industry standards, I mean that's just ludicrous. The money they could make from it would eclipse the storage space, but some exective clearly thought otherwise.

Twat.

[John Crichton]

It's not just the film industry, for example, some Beatles tapes were erased and are lost forever.

And let's not forget the BBC's unforgivable purge of 60s-era Doctor Who. Fortunately the occasional epsiode or full serial pops up from somewhere every few years.

[John McClane]

Why should anyone need a Silva re-recording.

I mean...another one?