The Hobbit Film Trilogy Thread
#4041
Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:03 AM
Here is what more or less known.
Gateway to Sindarin might be a bit out of my reach as far as linguistics go.
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#4042
Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:07 AM
So how about that Dain Ironfoot and Fili and Kili? Will beardless Dwarves baffle the audience as much as a mohawk wearing one? Will starfish hair-do enrage the media? Is short beard (on Longbeard Dwarves) going to be the new hipster look?
I don't know how the audience will receive all those additions in the film, but what I do know is how Shore will tackle them. Here is a recent post in Doug Adams blog:
I know some of you are concerned about the changes made in the film. Now, I can't tell you how these will work in the film, but I can tell you how they will be interpreted musically. Here are a few info on the score Howard allowed me to share with you.
Regarding the much talked about Radagast's bunnies, Howard composed a nine-notes theme for them, which is very reminiscent of the Fellowship theme. The reason behind this is because there are actually nine bunnies, with names very similar to the ones of the Fellowship's member. These are: Araborn, Bimli, Begolas, Bobomir, Bandalf, Bibbin, Berry, Bamwise Bamebie and Brodo Faggins. You can also expect some rising chords of doom coming from those bunnies.
Recently, it was revealed Dain Ironfoot will arrive on the battlefield, riding a wild boar. When he first saw the design of the creature, Shore immediately thought of a song, a war chant to go with his first appearance on screen. The song is called The Wild Boars' Procession (originally, the whole dwarf army was supposed to be riding wild boars). He wrote the lyrics with Philippa Boyens, and they were translated into khuzdul by David Salo. Here is an excerpt of the song:
The Wild Boars' Procession
Music By Howard Shore
Lyrics By Howard Shore And Philippa Boyens
You're a wild boar
Riding you is such a chore
But you're certainly no bore
I want to stay with you more
There was also talk about Dain's mohawk haircut, for which Howard composed a motif, based on lyrics by Leslie Bricusse. This one is very close in structure to Williams' Low Below theme from Hook. Here are the lyrics that were originally planned for this motif:
Ho, high, ho
Dain's mohawk goes
Ho, high, ho
Where tatoos show
Ho, high, ho
Dwarves are in awe
In the shadow of the great mohawk's blow
Finally, there was also the newly created character Tauriel, for which Shore had to write a theme. It became clear to Shore very quickly that this character was so useless and boring, that she didn't even deserve a one-note motif, so he decide to ignore her, and every time she appears on screen, all you'll hear is silence, as if she was a Music Slayer.
#4043
Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:46 AM
#4044
Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:48 AM
Seriously, though, was that really necessary, tannhauser?
Karol
#4045
Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:50 AM
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#4046
Posted 21 June 2012 - 09:13 AM
Does anyone here find Bloodboal remotely funny? He seems to constantly attempt humour and fail.
A wise man once said: "You won't be able to please everyone with your humour. Learn to live with it. If I was to refrain myself from saying a joke because I thought it wouldn't be well received by some people, then I would never be making jokes, and I would be the most boring person on Earth!"
Hey, if I piss people who don't post here often off so much that it encourages them to post on the forum to share their discontent, I say it's a good thing.Seriously, though, was that really necessary, tannhauser?
The Force is with him, but he's not a Jedi yet.
Maybe I'm not trying to become a Jedi. Maybe I feel more like joining the Sith.
#4047
Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:25 AM
The Force is with him, but he's not a Jedi yet.
Seriously, though, was that really necessary, tannhauser?
Karol
I wasn't trying to be horrible, I was just genuinely curious as to whether I was the only one who found his posts annoying and not at all funny.
#4049
Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:35 AM
Let me know when this thread ceases to be a no-go area again.
Thinking the same thing
That was nothing! I usually go into a certain forum about science-fiction/horror/fantasy literature where people can go into pages long rants about the climate of Northern Westeros. Now that's a scary nerdy place...
Izena duen guztia omen da.
#4050
Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:38 AM
Back on topic. The second Hobbit trailer has been rated. I wonder if we'll see it before Comic-Con. Any guesses to upcoming films it may be attached to?
Hopefully we'll see a lot of cool interesting stuff in it, and maybe a few seconds of new music from Shore!
#4051
Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:40 AM
#4052
Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:40 AM
Back on topic. The second Hobbit trailer has been rated. I wonder if we'll see it before Comic-Con. Any guesses to upcoming films it may be attached to?
The Dark Knight Rises, probably.
#4053
Posted 21 June 2012 - 11:13 AM
Does anyone here find Bloodboal remotely funny? He seems to constantly attempt humour and fail.
They don't just give the Golden Biscotti to ANYBODY you know....oh wait...He has already won the prestigious Golden Biscotti of Comedy this year.
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#4054
Posted 21 June 2012 - 11:44 AM
Back on topic. The second Hobbit trailer has been rated. I wonder if we'll see it before Comic-Con. Any guesses to upcoming films it may be attached to?
The Dark Knight Rises, probably.
That or Brave.
Izena duen guztia omen da.
#4055
Posted 21 June 2012 - 01:45 PM
So how about that Dain Ironfoot and Fili and Kili? Will beardless Dwarves baffle the audience as much as a mohawk wearing one? Will starfish hair-do enrage the media? Is short beard (on Longbeard Dwarves) going to be the new hipster look?
I don't know how the audience will receive all those additions in the film, but what I do know is how Shore will tackle them. Here is a recent post in Doug Adams blog:I know some of you are concerned about the changes made in the film. Now, I can't tell you how these will work in the film, but I can tell you how they will be interpreted musically. Here are a few info on the score Howard allowed me to share with you.
Regarding the much talked about Radagast's bunnies, Howard composed a nine-notes theme for them, which is very reminiscent of the Fellowship theme. The reason behind this is because there are actually nine bunnies, with names very similar to the ones of the Fellowship's member. These are: Araborn, Bimli, Begolas, Bobomir, Bandalf, Bibbin, Berry, Bamwise Bamebie and Brodo Faggins. You can also expect some rising chords of doom coming from those bunnies.
Recently, it was revealed Dain Ironfoot will arrive on the battlefield, riding a wild boar. When he first saw the design of the creature, Shore immediately thought of a song, a war chant to go with his first appearance on screen. The song is called The Wild Boars' Procession (originally, the whole dwarf army was supposed to be riding wild boars). He wrote the lyrics with Philippa Boyens, and they were translated into khuzdul by David Salo. Here is an excerpt of the song:
The Wild Boars' Procession
Music By Howard Shore
Lyrics By Howard Shore And Philippa Boyens
You're a wild boar
Riding you is such a chore
But you're certainly no bore
I want to stay with you more
There was also talk about Dain's mohawk haircut, for which Howard composed a motif, based on lyrics by Leslie Bricusse. This one is very close in structure to Williams' Low Below theme from Hook. Here are the lyrics that were originally planned for this motif:
Ho, high, ho
Dain's mohawk goes
Ho, high, ho
Where tatoos show
Ho, high, ho
Dwarves are in awe
In the shadow of the great mohawk's blow
Finally, there was also the newly created character Tauriel, for which Shore had to write a theme. It became clear to Shore very quickly that this character was so useless and boring, that she didn't even deserve a one-note motif, so he decide to ignore her, and every time she appears on screen, all you'll hear is silence, as if she was a Music Slayer.
Does anyone here find Bloodboal remotely funny? He seems to constantly attempt humour and fail.
I think he's hilarious. The funniest poster here by a wide margin
He is okay. He has already won the prestigious Golden Biscotti of Comedy this year.
I'm pretty sure he's gotten more Golds Stars than anyone else too
#4057
Posted 21 June 2012 - 02:29 PM
#4058
Posted 21 June 2012 - 02:30 PM
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
#4059
Posted 21 June 2012 - 02:35 PM
Damn!
#4060
Posted 21 June 2012 - 03:10 PM
#4061
Posted 21 June 2012 - 03:19 PM
Izena duen guztia omen da.
#4062
Posted 21 June 2012 - 03:55 PM
Says the winner of Golden Bisquit (of Doom) of the year. We have celebrities flooding our thread here.No, because then you will become as boring as the rest of us.
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#4063
Posted 21 June 2012 - 03:57 PM
Izena duen guztia omen da.
#4064
Posted 21 June 2012 - 04:01 PM
Definitely. I can't wait for another round of speculation on quick cuts and mysterious characters appearing in glimpses and how the Dwarves' beards and hair looks funny or how bunnies are popping out of Radagast's hat...We need another trailer...
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#4065
Posted 21 June 2012 - 04:32 PM
indeed he is but it's a shame that he obviously feels the need to be funny in every single post. sometimes less is more:)
#4067
Posted 21 June 2012 - 04:56 PM
I liked the early BloodBoal (late 2010) when his fresh voice injected new life into this corner of the universe. But he's been typecast in his later output. Very much like this Frenchman or Thomas Snoozeman. His much anticipated Tin Tin review turned out to be KOTCS of the 2011. Too much gold stars spoiled the lad, perhaps?
Karol
#4068
Posted 21 June 2012 - 05:32 PM
Oh no! He might be becoming the Gustavo Santaolalla of Comedy!He works harder than Alexandre Desplat.
I liked the early BloodBoal (late 2010) when his fresh voice injected new life into this corner of the universe. But he's been typecast in his later output. Very much like this Frenchman or Thomas Snoozeman. His much anticipated Tin Tin review turned out to be KOTCS of the 2011. Too much gold stars spoiled the lad, perhaps?
Karol
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#4069
Posted 21 June 2012 - 05:52 PM
Oh no! He might be becoming the Gustavo Santaolalla of Comedy!
He works harder than Alexandre Desplat.
I liked the early BloodBoal (late 2010) when his fresh voice injected new life into this corner of the universe. But he's been typecast in his later output. Very much like this Frenchman or Thomas Snoozeman. His much anticipated Tin Tin review turned out to be KOTCS of the 2011. Too much gold stars spoiled the lad, perhaps?
Karol
No, no, not that bad! But seriously, BloodBoal should not cut down on his jokes. He's the funniest guy here. His endless clowning is a refreshing counterpoint to the swirling abyss of pessimism and whining around here
Music Muse Reviews: "Escape From Tomorrow by Abel Korzeniowski
#4070
Posted 21 June 2012 - 05:55 PM
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#4072
Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:07 PM
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#4074
Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:11 PM
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#4076
Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:21 PM
Karol
#4077
Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:59 PM
I'm more surprised by the amount of actual funny in BB that comes out naturally than by the amount of jokes.
I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not...
He works harder than Alexandre Desplat.
I liked the early BloodBoal (late 2010) when his fresh voice injected new life into this corner of the universe. But he's been typecast in his later output. Very much like this Frenchman or Thomas Snoozeman. His much anticipated Tin Tin review turned out to be KOTCS of the 2011. Too much gold stars spoiled the lad, perhaps?
Consider yourself lucky I haven't pulled an Indy 5 yet!
But, guy, guys! Let's get back on topic, shall we! Chaac asked an interesting question on the previous page, and I was the only one to answer him! So, before going all like "BloodBoal is doing too much jokes for his own sake! He derails more threads than any internet terrorist!", look at yourselves talking about a JWFAN member in The Hobbit thread.
A wise man once said: "Don't derail threads. Others will do it for you". He was quite right.
#4079
Posted 21 June 2012 - 07:18 PM
#4080
Posted 21 June 2012 - 07:23 PM
And all I get is laughter for my troubles.inky's desperate attempts to get back on topic made me laugh
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
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