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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:55 AM
Shutter Island by Dennis Lehane
I just finished the movie and the book was better. Still, the movie did a good job capturing the feel of the book.
I saw the film first, which I loved, then read the book. Scorsese and team pretty much knocked it out of the park in terms of adaptation. I absolutely loved it, and would be willing to call it better, but the film's ending seals the deal for me. Amazing how one line of dialogue changes so much.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:29 PM
The film was a great adaptation of the book. I had that same discussion with a friend about that last line.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 08:11 PM
I've rediscovered my passion for comics recently.
Read the first half of Batman: The Court of the Owls storyline penned by Scott Snyder with drawings from Greg Capullo. It's really good and interesting. I like the stories from Batman that deal with city's mythology and such stuff (the prime example would be the excellent Dark Knight, Dark City). Not as great as reviews would lead you to believe - there are certain elements that seem derivative of other tales (or even Nolan movies in some details). Nevertheless very gripping and well drawn.
Now onto Alan Moore's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Vol. 2.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 03:40 PM
Aha! I need to catch the second one.
Recently I looked for the first one at a store and I was shocked that they had put the whole script in there (longer than the comic book itself), more than likely making an already pricey edition even more expensive. And only some of us will have a look at that. Why not skip that and sell the book at its damn proper cost dammit.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:53 AM
For Whom The Bells Toll by Ernest Hemingway
Across The River And Into The Trees by Ernest Hemingway
Starting Diamonds Are Forever and then I'll go on to The Old Man And The Sea.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:47 AM
Give up on Ender's Game?
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:57 AM
I finished a long time ago, we discussed the ending!
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:45 AM
O right, sorry!
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:48 AM
For Whom The Bells Toll by Ernest Hemingway
Across The River And Into The Trees by Ernest Hemingway
Starting Diamonds Are Forever and then I'll go on to The Old Man And The Sea.
Koray, check out "Islands In The Stream". No-one writes dialogue quite like Hemingway.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:52 PM
I'll get to it eventually, I'm reading through all his books chronologically. For Whom The Bells Toll was quite something. It's bloated as hell but those long anecdotal character stories are really great despite dragging down the main narrative. I contemplated actually finishing it when I hit the last chapter, as in to save it for some other time. I thought it was superb. Hemingway always tends to seem misogynist in his writing, but each book also contradicts that to a degree, I think. In this one, you had the typical "I'll do whatever you want me to because I'm a woman" Maria and then the strongest female character he's ever written with Pablo's woman. It's still buried in there, though, because she's ugly and mean and not feminine in any way. Anyway it's an argument I have a lot with my girlfriend; she hates him.
The opening scene of the last chapter is just phenomenal. So much detail and mood setting up the climax that right then and there it made me want to adapt the book into a screenplay, would be a tough task.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:58 PM
I've only read The Old Man and the Sea a few years ago.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:42 PM
Aha! I need to catch the second one.
Recently I looked for the first one at a store and I was shocked that they had put the whole script in there (longer than the comic book itself), more than likely making an already pricey edition even more expensive. And only some of us will have a look at that. Why not skip that and sell the book at its damn proper cost dammit.
I'd say the second volume is better than the first one. I can't wait to read Black Dossier and Century (all three parts) stories. And there's a new Nemo: Heart of Ice spin-off as well. I think it just came out now.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:11 AM
It won him the Nobel Prize but I think The Sun Also Rises will always be my favorite.I've only read The Old Man and the Sea a few years ago.
For Whom The Bells Toll is interesting in that the dialogue is written in Shakespearean English but the characters are actually speaking Spanish.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:16 PM
I just read on Wikipedia that the dialogue is written translating literally Spanish expressions.
That's going to be an hilarious read.
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:06 PM
It's written in a sort of Spanglish with lots of thous and arts.
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 10:57 PM
I'm thinking of the same trick in the opposite direction.You could write always the pronouns and substitute the second person singular with the plural form and get rid of the formal forms. lol
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:54 PM
Reading League of the Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier. I'm loving it.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:13 PM
From Russia With Love
The Old Man And The Sea
Currently on Dr. No.
The Bond novels are phenomenal. Can't believe I never read them until now.
The Old Man And The Sea
Currently on Dr. No.
The Bond novels are phenomenal. Can't believe I never read them until now.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:43 PM
I picked up the first 5 when they were $2 on kindle, can't wait to dig into them
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I am having another read of Kalevala, our national epic.
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
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Posted 11 May 2013 - 04:55 PM
I really want to read that.
There's a translation direct from Finnish... that I couldn't find at the library.
I'd like to read all the original material before that guy changed it around, but I heard it's loooooooooong and likely untranslated and I don't understand Finnish. 
I'm reading Fiasko by Stanisław Lem. It... feels weird and alienating, but then again that's Lem's thing sometimes. He can also be hilarious.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 05:10 PM
I've only read The Old Man and the Sea a few years ago.
it was such an unpleasant reading experience. I don't know a single person that enjoyed it.
of course there are worse reading experiences out there, Rime of the Ancient Mariner comes to mind....
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:53 PM
Dan Brown's Inferno comes out tomorrow, it should be a terrifically fun and awful read at the same. I love the complexity of his core mystery and the ease of discovery of his villain. The over under on how quickly you figure out who is the main villain should be about 60 pages give or take 5 pages.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:47 PM
I once found an automatic Dan Brown plot generator on the Internet. It was hilarious,
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 05:14 PM
it was such an unpleasant reading experience. I don't know a single person that enjoyed it.
I've only read The Old Man and the Sea a few years ago.
of course there are worse reading experiences out there, Rime of the Ancient Mariner comes to mind....
I loved it.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 05:42 PM
it was obvious from your earlier comments,
it was so strange that several friends at work discussed the book as did David and I at the end of last week.
I find Hemingway's works generally boring. I prefer Benchley's Hemingway inspired book the Girl in the Sea of Cortez much better.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:20 PM
Hemingway is definitely not for everybody.
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:28 PM
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Century: 1910.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
- Christopher Nolan
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:31 PM
Thoughts?
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:14 PM
Because it's the first volume of three it's hard to say yet. A lot of it depends on how all the pieces fit together. But so far I liked Black Dossier more.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
- Christopher Nolan
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 09:44 AM
Finished Century. It's a bit of a letdown. Alan Moore seems to be doing great with the cultural references dating back to mid-XX century. But this last 2009 chapter is not that good. Seems a bit anti-climactic and out of touch. I liked some of the bits, the concept itself is fine and I get it. But as a whole it's a rare misstep for Moore.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
- Christopher Nolan
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