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#281 Koray Savas

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 09:32 PM

The Apple earbuds suck, PERIOD!

According to you, for me and millions of others they're perfectly fine.
"Close Encounters to me is as good a piece of concert music as the 20th century has produced. Everybody fixates on... the Superman fanfare, or Star Wars - Main Theme, or the Raiders March. It's what happens after that, it's not the big popular hook where you go: 'My God John Williams is a genius.' Y'know it's the stuff which is maybe less hooky and less hummable, but is great art." - Hans Zimmer

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:03 PM

They do suck no matter that you say and the millions of tin eared morons who use them

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:07 PM

Majority rules :P
"Close Encounters to me is as good a piece of concert music as the 20th century has produced. Everybody fixates on... the Superman fanfare, or Star Wars - Main Theme, or the Raiders March. It's what happens after that, it's not the big popular hook where you go: 'My God John Williams is a genius.' Y'know it's the stuff which is maybe less hooky and less hummable, but is great art." - Hans Zimmer

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 02:27 AM

According to you, for me and millions of others they're perfectly fine.


For you and millions of others, Star Wars music is nothing but the main theme and the Imperial March over and over again! ;)

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:28 AM

Most people don't really care about sound. They care more about mobility and looking good; hence the disappearance of Hi-Fi in people's homes.
"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:31 AM

That's why CD's will die out in a few years, because most people think Mp3's or AAC files sound just as good, and you don't have to keep them anywhere.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:37 AM

Most people are idiots.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 02:19 PM


According to you, for me and millions of others they're perfectly fine.


For you and millions of others, Star Wars music is nothing but the main theme and the Imperial March over and over again! ;)

Therefore it must be true! ;)
"Close Encounters to me is as good a piece of concert music as the 20th century has produced. Everybody fixates on... the Superman fanfare, or Star Wars - Main Theme, or the Raiders March. It's what happens after that, it's not the big popular hook where you go: 'My God John Williams is a genius.' Y'know it's the stuff which is maybe less hooky and less hummable, but is great art." - Hans Zimmer

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 02:54 PM

Ass, FOOL!

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:36 PM

If you think the apple earbuds are good sounding, then you need to clean out your ears after pulling your head out of your ass.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:41 PM

But it's nice and warm in there.
"Close Encounters to me is as good a piece of concert music as the 20th century has produced. Everybody fixates on... the Superman fanfare, or Star Wars - Main Theme, or the Raiders March. It's what happens after that, it's not the big popular hook where you go: 'My God John Williams is a genius.' Y'know it's the stuff which is maybe less hooky and less hummable, but is great art." - Hans Zimmer

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 10:21 PM

The Apple earbuds are "good enough" for many people, and are quite useful for many applications.

I bought a pair of moderately pricey Audio Technica ATH-M50 studio monitor headphones on the advice of Alexcremers here, and use them specifically for listening to music at work and for use at my computer or laptop when working, playing games, or listening to music. They are really quite nice, even though the strain relief spring pulled out and I never fixed it.

They are also quite large. I look like I belong in a record studio, or even out on the tarmac landing airplanes. They are not really portable. I would feel like a darn fool taking them with me to, say, the doctor's office or some other place that I would want to listen to my iPod while I wait.

I had a great pair of Koss earbuds with the squishy inserts and great bass response, but one cord broke inside and they became junk. I also developed a sore ear from using them for too long. For portability, I usually use some Sony individual over-the-ear clip type headphones. But I can certainly understand why some folks are happy with the Apple earbuds.

They're cheap.
They were "free" with the iPod.
They feel a special loyalty to Apple and don't want to mix and match parts.
They don't care about their music or can't hear the difference.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 03:10 AM

The only time I really listen to my iPod on the go anymore is when I'm running. So every couple of months I buy a cheap pair and wear them until they get worn out. I mostly listen to my iPod in the car through the stereo.

I use these headphones at home or on an airplane.
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I dont like wearing them for long periods of time because they kind of just sit on top of your ears and they can get uncomfortable.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 03:14 AM

They are also quite large. I look like I belong in a record studio, or even out on the tarmac landing airplanes. They are not really portable. I would feel like a darn fool taking them with me to, say, the doctor's office or some other place that I would want to listen to my iPod while I wait.


Who's the more foolish...the fool, or the fool whose music sounds like crap? ;)

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 03:49 AM

One must choose whether it is better to drown out Judge Judy in the waiting room or not hear the intern call your name to actually see the doctor.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 05:04 AM

I had a great pair of Koss earbuds with the squishy inserts and great bass response, but one cord broke inside and they became junk. I also developed a sore ear from using them for too long. For portability, I usually use some Sony individual over-the-ear clip type headphones. But I can certainly understand why some folks are happy with the Apple earbuds.


My dad has a pair of the Koss earbuds that you mention. I used them as a temporary until I could get me another pair of V-Moda Octaves. Like you after a while my ears got sore if I wore them for too long.

As I said I will always recommend the V-Moda Octave earbuds. They are perfect, they come with very small ear fittings for those of us who don't have big openings in our ears. Plus they are really true noise cancellation earbuds. I listen to my music while I'm at the store and it completely drowns out everything around me. Well if I'm listening to an action oriented score. The V-Moda also comes with a splitter where you can plug two sets of earbuds into one device. I think that is pretty handy sometimes.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 05:53 AM

I usually just go to Radio Shack and buy one of those single-piece Y-splitters (not the cable type) to do the same thing.

I say usually because I used to have the bad habit of misplacing them. The last gizmo that I bought, I haven't lost.


All this talk of bashing iPod earbuds reminds of me of the classic Game Boy, which also came with a pair of cheap earbuds....and they were good enough for that too. Granted, 8-bit audio from 1989 is not on par with a 360 kbps orchestral opus on an iPod, but I digress.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:35 AM

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:58 AM

I'm sure they're good. But it's not something I would carry with me.

But it's nice and warm in there.

Yup. I tend to stay there quite a lot these days. ;)

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 09:09 AM

It's more for listening to music at home, even though they are not that big. To be honest, I don't listen to music when I'm outside the house. Music is such a big part of my life that I sometimes need to get away from it and so I don't travel, bike or walk around while listening to music.



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"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 09:14 AM

Yes, I definitely get music-overload sometimes. But sometimes it can be a real sanity saver as well.

EDIT: Gosh, now I want these headphones. Read some reviews and they're not expensive at all.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:23 AM

I love the youtube reviews of this guy:


"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 02:38 PM

I don't travel, bike or walk around while listening to music.


I really resent the people who do. Ok, when I'm traveling as a passenger, I'll listen to headphones to immerse myself, but usually end up falling asleep on a bus ride, or trying to take photos out the window on an airplane. And when driving, I either have the radio on or my iPod plugged in.

But the people who wear headphones/earphones while jogging or biking...grrr. It's like they're in their own little world, oblivious to the rest of us. As a driver, this aggravates me. They should do a study of how many people are mauled by animals, hit by vehicles, or nailed by trains because they were listening to music and didn't hear death knock.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 02:47 PM


I really resent the people who do.


But the people who wear headphones/earphones while jogging or biking...grrr. It's like they're in their own little world, oblivious to the rest of us. As a driver, this aggravates me. They should do a study of how many people are mauled by animals, hit by vehicles, or nailed by trains because they were listening to music and didn't hear death knock.


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Posted 19 October 2011 - 06:29 AM

You're European, you don't count. I don't have a shot of hitting you with my car. You give me the finger again, and I'll take that shot.

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 11:20 AM

Yesterday I almost crashed my bike into another biker because she was completely in her own world while listening to music. It reminded me of Wojo's rant about folks wearing headphones in traffic.


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Posted 19 October 2011 - 06:47 PM

Wearing headphones while driving is illegal. Wearing headphones while biking or running on the open road or a trail should be as well. Wanna jog on a track or treadmill? Go right ahead.

Or...they just make it open season on people who wear headphones jogging or biking. Wanna listen? It's fine. But you're fair game if I drive into you. I'll start putting stickers right below the side mirror for the number of confirmed kills I score.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:28 AM

Great, Now I am on Wojo's Hit list.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:34 PM

Nah. The flip side is that it beats the hell out of my car, and the dings are expensive to get touched up.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:35 PM

Pedestrians in my country are fully protected by law against the scourge of the motor car.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:40 PM

That's because you live in teensy ittle bitty country that anyone with enough time on their hands could walk from one end of the other to without having to drive.

Here, we drive to protect ourselves from the lions, tigers, and bears escaping from everyone's local menagerie.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:43 PM

Oh my.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 05:29 PM

Thats great, beat up on the weak countrirs. Ill have you know we used to rule the oceans!

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 05:42 PM

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 09:36 AM

I dunno, I mean, nobody drives a car in Manhattan. There, you either walk or take a cab.
"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 05:02 PM

If that were the case, there'd never be traffic.
"Close Encounters to me is as good a piece of concert music as the 20th century has produced. Everybody fixates on... the Superman fanfare, or Star Wars - Main Theme, or the Raiders March. It's what happens after that, it's not the big popular hook where you go: 'My God John Williams is a genius.' Y'know it's the stuff which is maybe less hooky and less hummable, but is great art." - Hans Zimmer

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 05:14 PM

These are just extras. Severely underpaid, I might add.

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 05:22 PM

If that were the case, there'd never be traffic.


Well, there is but they're no locals. The rest are cabs and people delivering stuff.
"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 12:21 AM

Anyone has the Seinheiser HD 558? I can get a good deal on them

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Posted 22 October 2011 - 07:47 AM

Checked it, sounded good, but not as good as the HD 598 (the ugly beige one).
"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan




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