I am in shock as I'm sure everyone who as read about this is.
I just can't understand how this things happen. That this kids, so early in their life see it cut down by some sort of madman...
My prayers go for those who lsot their loved ones today.
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Started by Miguel Andrade, Apr 16 2007 05:44 PM
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 05:44 PM
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"Ah yes, the Olympics. The quadrennial event where composer John Williams collects a hefty royalty check from NBC."
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 06:10 PM
Sadly the death toll is getting higher as the news is updated. My heart goes out to those who have lost family and friends.
I keep thinking back to the day we had 23 people killed in 1991 at the Luby's here in town. My mom lost a few friends and I knew someone who managed to survive but he was never the same.
I keep thinking back to the day we had 23 people killed in 1991 at the Luby's here in town. My mom lost a few friends and I knew someone who managed to survive but he was never the same.
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 06:21 PM
hmm what happened...turns on TV.
Oh I see...We get some of these here too.
Oh I see...We get some of these here too.
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 06:39 PM
Haven't heard any news all day, so I had to look up what this was about. Just heading over to any news network home page tells you enough.
How awful. I honestly don't understand why these things happen.
How awful. I honestly don't understand why these things happen.
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 06:45 PM
What happened?
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 06:46 PM
University random shooting.Apparently 31 are dead
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 06:55 PM
damn!
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 07:17 PM
I know that area of the country fairly well, my best friend lives there, his wife is from there, and her brother went to VT. Obviously my heart goes out to all those affected this atrocity.
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 07:54 PM
This is apparently the worst mass shooting in US history...there are conflicting reports of the death toll, ranging from 22-32, including the gunman.
I can't fathom this, and my thoughts and prayers are with all those affected. How senseless and tragic.
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I can't fathom this, and my thoughts and prayers are with all those affected. How senseless and tragic.
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 07:57 PM
Christ....just heard about this. Two separate shootings? Any info on the shooters yet?
Morlock- genuinely distraught by this
Morlock- genuinely distraught by this
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 08:01 PM
No, two shootings by the same guy. First at a dorm, then at a class building, I think.
I can't even really respond to this. I just can't get my head around a thing like this.
I can't even really respond to this. I just can't get my head around a thing like this.
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 08:15 PM
It's best not to think about this kinda stuff at all.
If you don't think about it, it didn't happen.
Okay....it works for me....
If you don't think about it, it didn't happen.
Okay....it works for me....
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 11:23 PM
Terrifying 
I can't even imagine such a massacre.
I can't even imagine such a massacre.
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Dopey bastards gonna ban guns yet?
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 02:16 AM
I'm sure guns are banned at Virginia Tech and that didn't work.
At any rate this is a horrible tragedy. There is some fairly intense video footage where you can hear gunfire floating around.
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At any rate this is a horrible tragedy. There is some fairly intense video footage where you can hear gunfire floating around.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 02:28 AM
I'm sure guns are banned at Virginia Tech and that didn't work.
At any rate this is a horrible tragedy. There is some fairly intense video footage where you can hear gunfire floating around.
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Across the entire country, of course. In Australia, after the Port Arthur massacre in 1996 where 35 people were shot, the government banned and heavily restricted the legal ownership of all firearms and forced everyone to turn in their guns. Since then, no such shooting has ever occurred. Why can't the same be done in the United States to prevent tragedies like this? Oh, that stupid gun lobby that lacks all common sense.
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This is apparently the worst mass shooting in US history...there are conflicting reports of the death toll, ranging from 22-32, including the gunman.
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It's 33 at the moment.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 08:52 AM
I'm sure guns are banned at Virginia Tech and that didn't work.
Maybe they are...but Virginia in general has pretty lax gun laws.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 02:39 PM
I'm sure guns are banned at Virginia Tech and that didn't work.
At any rate this is a horrible tragedy. There is some fairly intense video footage where you can hear gunfire floating around.
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Across the entire country, of course. In Australia, after the Port Arthur massacre in 1996 where 35 people were shot, the government banned and heavily restricted the legal ownership of all firearms and forced everyone to turn in their guns. Since then, no such shooting has ever occurred. Why can't the same be done in the United States to prevent tragedies like this? Oh, that stupid gun lobby that lacks all common sense.
don't politicize this you idiot, this is a trajedy, there are appropriate places to discuss gun control, but not on this board.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Agreed. This is a thread for expressing sadness and condolences, not snarky comments.
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Dopey bastards gonna ban guns yet?
The official statement seems to be that, as always, everyone is allowed to own guns, and the point is preventing "bad people" from getting them.
Marian - who doesn't see how anyone could miss the contradiction in this concept.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 05:40 PM
And let's leave it at that.
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The whole thing makes me sick, it's so senseless. And the shooter took the easy way out and blew himself away too, coward. I just can't understand why these things happen. It could've been any of our campuses, any of our friends I think when I see this on TV. You don't know what weirdos are lurking around out there.
They're all in my thoughts and prayers, they will be reeling from this for a long time to come.
They're all in my thoughts and prayers, they will be reeling from this for a long time to come.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 09:12 PM
I've been hearing alot about this the last couple of days. My dad works with a guy who's son went to the school. I can't imagine how terriying that was for him. Apparantly, 32 were killed and 29 were injured.
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33 if you include Cho Seung-Hui.
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One has to wonder what on earth went on in that guys early (or recent) life, to make him do such a thing to other people. In nearly all such cases, the killers have been victims themselves at some stage of the timeline. That aside, this is a nightmare and I would find it extremely hard to get over if it were one of my relatives lined up and executed in such a clinical way. Everybody must be going through a terrible time over there right now. What else can I say? Sorry to hear of this event 
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Out of every great evil must come some good: Liviu Librescu, a 77 year old engineering professor and holocaust survivor, used his own body to barricade the door to his classroom when the shots started to allow his students time to escape through the windows. He was shot through the door and killed. That, my friends, is a hero.
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Watching CNN.There interviewing his roomates .Apparently the killer went by the name of QuestionMark
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Out of every great evil must come some good: Liviu Librescu, a 77 year old engineering professor and holocaust survivor, used his own body to barricade the door to his classroom when the shots started to allow his students time to escape through the windows. He was shot through the door and killed. That, my friends, is a hero.
I was just about to post about that.....he was a friend of my grandfather's. He visited him just a few weeks ago. His widow asked my grandfather to speak at his funeral (Professor Libresco will be buried here).
I find it so heartbreaking that this was the matter of depressed young man....the casual reason for this massacre. All murder is terrible, but the arbitrary nature of it is just really hard for me to grasp.
I should be resisting this, but I'm paralyzed with rage... and island rhythms.
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I'm sorry to hear that Morlock.
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Well, he offered his life in such a noble way, that while I can understand how sad it is, is a hope and inspiration that love will eventually triumph.
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:02 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if a movie is made about it.
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:23 PM
sort of related but it was announced a few hours ago that a bomb threat had been found on my campus and a section has now been shut down. There were around 4 helicopters flying around and a ton of police. Hope it stays a threat.
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Now there are apparently 27 videos of the shooter that have been sent to NBC, showing him rant about his reasons for the massacre, before it happened. I really can't watch this though, it makes me absolutely sick.
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I saw some of it on the news this morning. That's one messed up dude. 
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I can't believe the news is posting his videos, they are giving him all the attention he craved.
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They are feeding the monster.
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 02:01 PM
Hey, they give the public what it wants. I won't watch them, but I'm sure that many, many people are as interested as they are repulsed.
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 07:28 PM
I cannot believe the lack of empathy displayed in this thread. Depression and psychological problems are no laughing matters.
Some disease drove this man...this child to commit this terrible and desperate act.
Can we be truly sure he is not one of the victims also?
Some disease drove this man...this child to commit this terrible and desperate act.
Can we be truly sure he is not one of the victims also?
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 07:34 PM
I do not think that the tragedy of the shooting and the tragedy of the shooter should be discussed hand in hand. They may all have been victims, but the shooter was a victim who murdered people. I think it is a great crime onto the memories of those murdered in cold blood to discuss their murderer in the same breath.
Victim as he was (Certainly something drives a person to murder), the facts remain.
Victim as he was (Certainly something drives a person to murder), the facts remain.
I should be resisting this, but I'm paralyzed with rage... and island rhythms.
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