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#1 BurgaFlippinMan

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 05:53 PM

Teaser here

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 06:31 PM

I'm actually looking forward to it. When I first heard of the project I thought it had potential to be a very good film.

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 07:14 PM

Pixar sure does churn 'em out fast.
Do you like John Williams? His early work was a little too jazzy for my taste, but when Jaws came out in '75 I really think he came into his own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and an air of consummate professionalism that really gives the pieces a big boost. He's been compared to Jerry Goldsmith but I think John has a far more leitmotif-driven style of composing. In '82 John composed this, E.T., his most accomplished album to date. I think his undisputed masterpiece is "The Magic of Halloween", a theme so catchy most people don't listen to what it means. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of childhood and the importance of friendship, it's also a personal statement about the man himself. Hey Paul!
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Posted 16 June 2007 - 07:19 PM

Did you watch the teaser?

Apparently, this was first pitched in 1994.

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 08:25 PM

Yes, but it seems Pixar has been able to release a film every year to couple of years, which is pretty incredible.
Do you like John Williams? His early work was a little too jazzy for my taste, but when Jaws came out in '75 I really think he came into his own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and an air of consummate professionalism that really gives the pieces a big boost. He's been compared to Jerry Goldsmith but I think John has a far more leitmotif-driven style of composing. In '82 John composed this, E.T., his most accomplished album to date. I think his undisputed masterpiece is "The Magic of Halloween", a theme so catchy most people don't listen to what it means. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of childhood and the importance of friendship, it's also a personal statement about the man himself. Hey Paul!
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Posted 16 June 2007 - 09:15 PM

I dont actually think they are that fast. By this year they would have put out 8 films since 1995, while Dreamworks Animation would have done 9 since 1998 (excluding 2D and stop motion cartoons)

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 09:21 PM

I dont actually think they are that fast. By this year they would have put out 8 films since 1995, while Dreamworks Animation would have done 9 since 1998 (excluding 2D and stop motion cartoons)

But, you have to consider that 2 of those 9 movies were sequels which they already had the engine and all that stuff for.

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 09:30 PM

that still gives Pixar a 3 year head start. Dreamworks still have that Seinfeld voiced bee CG cartoon coming up this year

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 09:41 PM

Well, Pixar makes better films.
Do you like John Williams? His early work was a little too jazzy for my taste, but when Jaws came out in '75 I really think he came into his own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and an air of consummate professionalism that really gives the pieces a big boost. He's been compared to Jerry Goldsmith but I think John has a far more leitmotif-driven style of composing. In '82 John composed this, E.T., his most accomplished album to date. I think his undisputed masterpiece is "The Magic of Halloween", a theme so catchy most people don't listen to what it means. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of childhood and the importance of friendship, it's also a personal statement about the man himself. Hey Paul!
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Posted 16 June 2007 - 09:43 PM

Specially CGI wise.
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Posted 17 June 2007 - 12:39 AM

Typical Pixar teaser, teases you senseless.

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 02:06 PM

PIXAR don't churn them out - they have different people working on different films at any one time. They often overlap production of films; Finding Nemo and The Incredibles were simultaneous for a long while.

The difference between them and Dreamworks for instance is the talent. All of the right people are at PIXAR.

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 02:22 PM

Well, Pixar makes better films.


That I agree.

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 04:04 PM

I have yet to see a Dreamworks CGI movie that is worth watching.

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 07:25 PM

Just read in Time magazine that Star Wars sound designer (and Williams arch-enemy) Ben Burtt is going to be "electronically" voicing the main characters in the film and that the movie's plot is actually based on City Lights, a Charlie Chaplin silent film. Interesting...

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 10:35 PM

ben burrt work for pixar now.

I'm sorry for the poor guy that makes the score :P
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Posted 17 June 2007 - 11:54 PM

The relevant thing is: Pixar is *always* good.

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 12:18 AM

Cars is generally considered to be a step down though....

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 01:12 AM

Maybe a quarter step down. Maybe.
Do you like John Williams? His early work was a little too jazzy for my taste, but when Jaws came out in '75 I really think he came into his own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and an air of consummate professionalism that really gives the pieces a big boost. He's been compared to Jerry Goldsmith but I think John has a far more leitmotif-driven style of composing. In '82 John composed this, E.T., his most accomplished album to date. I think his undisputed masterpiece is "The Magic of Halloween", a theme so catchy most people don't listen to what it means. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of childhood and the importance of friendship, it's also a personal statement about the man himself. Hey Paul!
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Posted 18 June 2007 - 01:30 AM

A step down, but not so big a step that it wouldn't still be an enjoyable movie. And I'd still rank it higher than A Bug's Life (although I have yet to re-watch Cars).

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 03:40 AM

Do the formulaic Dreamworks films have a single bit of timelessness or longetivity?

Every single one is based around pop references and cute animals (the formula for non-Pixar 3D animation it seems).

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 09:06 AM

ben burrt work for pixar now.

I'm sorry for the poor guy that makes the score :P


Blah blah blah. I doubt he'll have as much influence as on the Star Wars prequels.

And if anyone can come up with cool sound-driven voices for robots, it's Ben Burtt.

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 11:24 AM

Indeed.

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 01:51 PM

Yeah!

But in the process he may fight his way becuase he doesnt like music overshadowing his work.

Sorry, this is not blah blah.

We would have gotten a great AOTC Arena scene if this guy hadnt opened his mouth.

(and well if Lucas hadnt agreed with him, and Ken Wannberg and John Williams had more guts :P )
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Posted 18 June 2007 - 01:54 PM

He's not working with the same people this time. And the guy still knows how to do sound effects editing if nothing else.

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 02:03 PM

He still 'hates' music. I dont think it was a personal vendetta against Williams.
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Posted 18 June 2007 - 02:54 PM

There's always a competition between sound effects and music. Every sound designer comes across that.

Enough with the Burtt-bashing already.

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 04:21 PM

Yes no need to bash Burtt. His work on sound effects for all six films is and was fantastic. The only problem is he probably shouldn't have been made editor.

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 05:27 PM

The robot looks like E.T......
Do you like John Williams? His early work was a little too jazzy for my taste, but when Jaws came out in '75 I really think he came into his own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and an air of consummate professionalism that really gives the pieces a big boost. He's been compared to Jerry Goldsmith but I think John has a far more leitmotif-driven style of composing. In '82 John composed this, E.T., his most accomplished album to date. I think his undisputed masterpiece is "The Magic of Halloween", a theme so catchy most people don't listen to what it means. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of childhood and the importance of friendship, it's also a personal statement about the man himself. Hey Paul!
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John Takis' Complete Hook Analysis


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Posted 18 June 2007 - 05:33 PM

and sounds like him too...with a dash of Johnny Five...

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 05:38 PM

Cars is generally considered to be a step down though....


Pixar is also guilty of retelling the same pinocchio tale over and over again (Nemo and Cars).
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Posted 18 June 2007 - 06:11 PM

With Nemo is was done brilliantly though.....

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 06:47 PM

There's always a competition between sound effects and music. Every sound designer comes across that.

Enough with the Burtt-bashing already.


Cant' believe my eyes really.

hope to see the same about lucas someday. (armageddon, i suppose)

Really, the guy just switches company (to a loved and popular one) and transfroms from butcher great sound designer to just great sound designer...
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 05:48 AM

Yes no need to bash Burtt. His work on sound effects for all six films is and was fantastic. The only problem is he probably shouldn't have been made editor.



His creative sound work is genius.

His aesthetics of the soundscape is questionable.  His mix of Revenge of the Sith was particularly weak.  

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Posted 19 June 2007 - 06:55 AM

A step down, but not so big a step that it wouldn't still be an enjoyable movie. And I'd still rank it higher than A Bug's Life (although I have yet to re-watch Cars).

I happen to agree with Marian here. Most people seem to believe that Pixar's "winning streak" came to an end with Cars, but I'd actually rate A Bug's Life, Pixar's second major feature, below it.

Until the release of Ratatouille later this month, this is how the films rank for me:

Classic
1. Toy Story 2 (1999)
2. Toy Story (1995)
3. The Incredibles (2004)
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Great
4. Monsters, Inc. (2001)
5. Finding Nemo (2003)
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Good
6. Cars (2006)
7. A Bug's Life (1998)

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Posted 19 June 2007 - 08:12 AM

You can add Ratatouille to classics btw. Saw it this past weekend in the sneaks.

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Posted 19 June 2007 - 08:24 AM

Monsters, Inc and Finding Nemo are ok , the rest of them are really...annoying.

I've always liked more Dreamworks' stuff.They are more original and something new comparing to
pixar's movies , which are just traditional Disney stuff in a different package.

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Posted 19 June 2007 - 08:31 AM

I like the Pixar shorts.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 09:48 AM

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Posted 19 June 2007 - 10:12 AM

Monsters, Inc and Finding Nemo are ok , the rest of them are really...annoying.

I've always liked more Dreamworks' stuff.They are more original and something new comparing to
pixar's movies , which are just traditional Disney stuff in a different package.


yeah shark tale is a classic.

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