That doesn't work, Steef. I still don't like this place. Anyway, I don't think Luke is from Madrid, I would've met him otherwise.
And Luke, I am arguing with you for the last time. It seems that George Lucas has managed to get veeeery deep into your superego so you'd defend him no matter what he does. You say that it's not true that the prequels aren't Star Wars movies. Well, let me ask you something, Luke: What is a Star Wars movie?
You would say "any movie that takes place in the Star Wars universe". But I don't think so. For many, maaaany people (not necessarily me) a Star Wars movie is a movie from their golden age of childhood where myth and science mix, where humanity prevails when together.
That's what Star Wars is about. It's not about machine-men, X-Wings, AT-ATs or Clones. It's about what they represent, about the hopeful and innocently plain message: good triumphs over evil.
I don't think you can make a Star Wars movie by just adding the Star Wars title and the crawling introduction. There's a lot more to Star Wars and let's face it, the Prequels just don't have that sense of good over evil, of peaceful, simple philosophy.
And that's a fact.
-ROSS who nonetheless prefers the Prequel Trilogy storywise.
I'm not defending Lucas Here. I do not defend him with my life regardless he does. I don't like Music edits, (another thing is calling the gods for it), i dont like the lack of saber colors (although it is EU, he added a purple saber, why not at least yellow? why does give freehand to writers if he didnt wanted so many saber colors) ), if he kills the prequels showing Leia and Darth Vader i would neither like it.
I'm Defending the prequels as the SW movies they are.
OK so in TPM, Naboo didnt defeated the Trade Federation, Neither Obi-Wan Killed Maul
And Well in AOC, it seems to the republic that it has won, but in fact the Sith Have, But heck who won in ESB? The Empire.
And in EpIII the empire will won. But becasue it is necesary.
To make good triumph over evil, the evil has to be created. that's what the prequel trilogy is about.
The prequel trilogy as the Original trilogy has its reality issue. It is about evil triumphs over good. In the new we are told about the fragility of Republics, that need to be based upon the union of people, and when it fails the evil ovetake them. In the old trilogy we are told that when tyrants rule, people join together to fight the evil and overtake them, making a free and fair goverment.
And all the things about what a star wars movie is. Well, the Ewoks movies are not SW movies, and they are based on the same universe.
Austin Powers 2 started with the crawling introduction and it DEFINATELY is not a SW movie.
A star wars movie is a movie made by George Lucas with that finality. But this comes from one who respects Lucas, so... To know what a SW movies is, we should ask George Lucas. NOBODY else can make that definition as nobody else can name your sons.
And speaking of sons, if you have 3 sons during a decade, and maybe 10 years later you have another one, your friends and family will say that the second one is not your son because your son would have to be born in the decade before and from the person you were in that decade?
And Ricard, The movies are all SW movies. And subjectively you can believe that they are not. But do not tell me (or people like me) that they are not the FACT they are: SW Movies. Better (or the best) or Worse (or the worst) movies but they still are.
Is ANH open-ended or not? I think i made some points that say that it is as opened as TPM, but noone answered them.
Lets recall it (and add some):
- The Emperor, Vader and the Empire are not killed-overthrown
- Saying words in the mind of Luke is all 'the powerful than you can possibly imagine' Obi-Wan becomes? What a Bluff!
- Who is the Emperor, anyway? the Guy doesn't appear in the movie...
- Who is Jabba (regarding the original edit)
- Will Han Solo pay his debt? Or will he stay in the Rebellion?
And Joe, you have seen the 5 movies, dont you? You cannot act if you didn't know by now. And we all know that Obi-Wan had a particular 'point view' of the universe.