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[crocodile]

Orchestra.

Karol

[Romão]

That's like playing Slayer with an Ukelele

[Charlie Brigden]

Will the conductor be drunk?

[Neimoidian]

That's like playing Slayer with an Ukelele

You mean like this?

[Mark Olivarez]

Maybe they can get this guy to conduct:


Oops, see the next post by me.

[Neimoidian]

Orchestra will be led by Richard Kaufman if that tells anyone anything.

[Mark Olivarez]

[KK.]

I realize that I may be making a huge mistake, but I think we should have a Zimmer thread here. An official thread for Zimmer on JWFan maybe the signs of the footsteps of doom, but Zimmer is actually a composer that I'm quite fond of. Or at the very least, I'm fond of the old Zimmer. Hey, I'm quite certain many will agree with me when I say you can be both a JW fan and a Zimmer fan. His work in the last 3-4 years (with a few exceptions) have been very disappointing. But I there can be some interesting discussion here about this highly controversial composer.

Let me start by just listing my top 5 favourite Zimmer scores:

1) The Prince of Egypt: A plethora of amazing themes (the God theme is beautiful) and a powerhouse of a score.


2) The Last Samurai: Exciting action, thoughtful themes and beautiful ethnic instrumentation, an intoxicating combination.


3) Beyond Rangoon: His most beautiufl and lyrical score. The gorgeous music here places this score amongst the man's very best.


4) The Lion King: Some of his most majestic themes have been written here. I love Zimmer for this excellent powerhouse.


5) The Da Vinci Code: I know I'm in the minority with this one, but I've got my reasons. This score always has a touch of nostalgia for me as it is my first Zimmer score. Many years later, this score continues to impress with its dark and yet largely symphonic beauty and power. You just don't see Zimmer write like this anymore (well maybe the more atmospheric parts have caught on, but never does he touch the symphonic heights of this score nowadays....he has his synthesizers and blasted foghorns instead).


I suppose I should let the Zimmer hate begin!

[BloodBoal]

I'm sorry to destroy your enthusiasm, dude, but... http://www.jwfan.com...showtopic=14968

Blame it on Koray, not me!

[KK.]

Lol, did not see that. I'm really bad at using this search bar here. Well, I assume Jason will eventually move this post.

[BloodBoal]

Well, the thing you've got to know is that in the Search function options, at the line "Match", you've got three options available: "Search title and content", "Only search in titles" or "Only search in content".

Using the second option ("Only search in titles") helps a lot. If you had used it, you would have found this thread. But as always, you always do things in hurry, and never cautiously. Next time, pay more attention to the options available!!

[KK.]

Appreciate the advice. But since when did I become the impulsive guy around here?!

Don't be so hasty with your accusations my friend

- KK

[chuckster312]

He reminds me of Chandler.

[Faleel]

Well, the thing you've got to know is that in the Search function options, at the line "Match", you've got three options available: "Search title and content", "Only search in titles" or "Only search in content".

Using the second option ("Only search in titles") helps a lot. If you had used it, you would have found this thread. But as always, you always do things in hurry, and never cautiously. Next time, pay more attention to the options available!!

[chuckster312]

He forgot to "Bru-Rar-Rum!"

[ShowUStheHOOK]

I believe Stephen Schwartz wrote the lyrics, but Zimmer provided the music for them.

I'll have to check the piano book again, but I believe Stephen Schwartz wrote the music and lyrics to the songs and zimmer scored the film.

EDIT

a link from the piano book

http://www.sheetmusi...f-Egypt/2987628

[KK.]

I believe Stephen Schwartz wrote the lyrics, but Zimmer provided the music for them.

I'll have to check the piano book again, but I believe Stephen Schwartz wrote the music and lyrics to the songs and zimmer scored the film.

EDIT

a link from the piano book

http://www.sheetmusi...f-Egypt/2987628

Stephen Schwartz wrote all the themes and melodies for the songs (along with the lyrics). Hans Zimmer helped arranged the songs, like the epic "Deliver Us". The themes in the actual score are all original to Zimmer.

[Romão]

Today I listened several times to my favorite Zimmer score: Hannibal

I love the narration. And I adore To Every Captive Soul. It's very Tristan and Isolde-like, but Zimmer can write some great string based cues. Patricide from Gladiator is another such example

[Luke Skywalker]

I saw Ice age 4 today, and there is a 'THe simpons' short before it. Like the movie, music was by hans zimmer. There were not any references to the simpsons theme and the music was orchestrally good.

Zimmer should write more like that.

[BloodBoal]

I saw Ice age 4 today, and there is a 'THe simpons' short before it. Like the movie, music was by hans zimmer. There were not any references to the simpsons theme and the music was orchestrally good.

I wonder which ghost composer did that one.

[Michael]

Probably Jim Doodley.

[Koray Savas]

Interesting interview with Zimmer where he discusses music and technology, instigated by the new iOS app VJAM.

[Jason LeBlanc]

2013 is turning out to be the most prolific year for Zimmer in a while!

In addition to scoring Man Of Steel, The Lone Ranger, Rush, and Winter's Tale, he also has Mr. Morgan's Last Love coming out.

[KK.]

I wonder how much of that will actually be scored by him...

[Chaac]

Probably Jim Doodley.

 

I didn't know this guy. I wonder what he composed in The Da Vinci Code.

[Richard Penna]

I wonder how much of that will actually be scored by him...

 

I wonder if some CD covers can genuinely claim to be 'composed by Hans Zimmer', as I keep hearing of more and more scores supposedly by him which actually had loads of ghostwriters.

 

Giving less experienced composers a chance is good, but it crosses a line IMO when he pretends that he wrote it to sell CDs.

[Chaac]

Apparently he doesn't pretend that, even though he's normally the one credited on the CD and the one everybody gives credit for the whole score.

[Koray Savas]

Must. Resist. Urge.

[Stefancos]

As far as I know he does not use ghostwriters. Ghostwriters are never credited. Zimmer has, throughout his career consistently credited his co-composers.

 

I am not much of a Zimmer fan. but he has always been transparent about his collaborations. Can't fault him there.

[KK.]

Precisely. But I'd like him to take on a solo project.

[Stefancos]

Has he ever done so?

 

Zimmer is a pop musician at heart.

[KK.]

Well as solo as he gets. I'd like to hear more scores where he doesn't just compose one or two themes and leaves the rest to others. Scores like "The Da vinci Code" where it was mostly him.

[gkgyver]

I wonder how much of that will actually be scored by him...

 

Taking all the material in those score that are genuinely by him would probably amount to one film score of average length.

[Bellosh]

Re-watching the Pacific mini-series, his main theme to that is just wonderful.

[Chaac]

Must. Resist. Urge.

 

Urge of what? You don't hear "score blah blah, composed by Hans Zimmer, this guy and this guy". You hear "score blah blah, composed by Hans Zimmer", and it'll take you being a nerd about it to know there's more to it than that and some research to know who did exaclty what. I'm not critizizing anything, that's what happens.

[Koray Savas]

Resist the general urge to resort to my old Zimmer posting tendencies. It wasn't a direct reply to your post, though it was a part of the whole. I can't believe that after 10 years people still can't figure out how Zimmer works.

[Stefancos]

Many people still believe a film composer should only ever write the music themselves.

[Richard Penna]

I was astounded when I went looking for music from the end of Despicable Me to find that almost all of the finale was written by Magic Box Music.

 

So delegating composing tasks to others within isn't enough... he outsources to some other company?

 

Yes Koray, I understand that many composers get help from someone else, but Zimmer seems to do it on such a regular basis, and I'm not aware of a single score which I know he wrote entirely by himself. Is that too much to ask?

[Chaac]

The part where I disagree with Koray is when he compared Zimmer scoring a film with a director making a film. I don't think the comparison makes sense.

 

 

 

What I find frustrating is that if I like or dislike something in one of these scores I find it confudsing who's to be credited about it anymore. Is Zimmer who is boring or brilliant here? Is it someone else? What does "arranging" mean?

 

 

Anyone got a list of everybody who composed Inception? That one seems to me like one where Zimmer did pretty much everything but who knows.

[Richard Penna]

Lorne Balfe did some of it.

 

According to this page, eleven composers worked on On Stranger Tides. It's insane.