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#81 Josh500

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 07:14 PM

Is the volume output of that album slightly lower than those of Episode I and III?

I'm listening to this on my computer, but since I couldn't rip it (because of that stupid protection-thing) I got the files from somebody else. And when I compare the first tracks, I notice that the Main Title from Episode II is slightly lower in volume than the other two. Now, I'm wondering whether it's the album itself, or the files...

(I don't have a CD player at the moment, otherwise I would check it myself!)

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 07:21 PM

I know it's a tad bit muddy sounding at time. But I think the volume is the same.

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 07:30 PM

The Episode II CD has one of the worst mixes of all time. Period. It's like Shawn Murphy didn't clean his ears out for a year.
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Posted 06 April 2009 - 07:31 PM

I'm listening to this on my computer, but since I couldn't rip it (because of that stupid protection-thing)

Take my advice: Buy the australian version. I have it, and it has no copy protection.
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Posted 06 April 2009 - 07:34 PM

I'm listening to this on my computer, but since I couldn't rip it (because of that stupid protection-thing)

Take my advice: Buy the australian version. I have it, and it has no copy protection.


I'm in Europe. How the heck do I get the Australian version? :lol:

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 07:43 PM

I'm listening to this on my computer, but since I couldn't rip it (because of that stupid protection-thing)

Take my advice: Buy the australian version. I have it, and it has no copy protection.


I'm in Europe. How the heck do I get the Australian version? :lol:

I'm from Europe, too (Germany). I've bought it from Amazon.de-Marketplace.

Here is the link: http://www.amazon.de...S...6848&sr=1-9
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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:43 PM

Episode II copy protection can be bypassed - if you import it using an external DVD-RAM.

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:49 PM

Huh. My UK copy rips perfectly fine. At least I think it's a UK copy.
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Posted 19 April 2009 - 10:29 PM

Episode II copy protection can be bypassed - if you import it using an external DVD-RAM.


I never even noticed any of these copy protections. Under Linux, that is.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:39 PM

Here's a very subjective one - There's one track in Rupert Gregson-Williams' Bedtime Stories that I love - The Legend of Skeetacus, and the reason I love it is because of the mini-melodies that get stuck in your head, but especially the one at 1:37 because of how positive it sounds, and the 'major' note at 1:42 (the second to last note in that falling brass motif).

So my question is, where else can I find constructs like this, where a major note appears where you don't expect it to and just makes the melody so much 'happier'?

And I'm now officially a fan of this guy's adventure music :P

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:41 PM

Interesting how it's always a brass note that stimulates the sensation you speak of. I'm sure ID4 is full of 'em.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 06:10 PM

Huh. My UK copy rips perfectly fine. At least I think it's a UK copy.


I never even noticed any of these copy protections. Under Linux, that is.


Despite the cover stating "Will not play on PC/Mac" for those of us that bought it when it came out, only Windows seems to have a problem with it. As far as I know, no Linux user ever had a problem with it either. It also depends on the age and setup of your PC (Windows98 never had an issue with it). But in general it can easily be bypassed as I said...

....as an aside, I think Sony got rapped on the knuckles for including this protection on several of their CD's (including the Spider-Man soundtrack) at the time.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:03 AM

Whatever happened to those who ordered the last batch of Varese Clubs? I recall they shipped on April 6th. Anyone get Howard's Russkies? I want to know what you think.
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:08 AM

What exactly is a "4B" pencil? I cannot find a satisfactory answer anywhere....
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:21 AM

Don't those numbers/letters just refer to the type of lead in the pencil?
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:22 AM

I believe so.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:26 AM

I think it has something to do with the softness of the graphite in the pencil. I believe the lower the number, the softer the graphite. You would use low numbers for shading and high numbers for detail.

At least, I think that's what it means.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:40 AM

I remember we always had to have a #2 pencil for tests in elementary and jr. high.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:42 AM

Which was complete bs, as long as you didn't use a pen you were fine.
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 03:04 AM

Thanks!
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:59 PM

The computers that read Scantron tests were guaranteed to always read #2 lead, so it became standard. But it was still critical to completely fill in the circle with no spill outside of the circle.

I'm sure you could've used different shades of pencil or not filled it in as much and still been fine, but they made such mundane rules to teach little kids to follow mundane rules.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 04:52 PM

I think it has something to do with the softness of the graphite in the pencil. I believe the lower the number, the softer the graphite. You would use low numbers for shading and high numbers for detail.


The other way around, actually, if you're on the B scale.

There's also H, which is actually harder.

HB is a regular pencil, 2H is what one would use for technical drawings (which have to be rather accurate) and 2B is what you would use for sketching (because it requires less pressure to get a line on the paper). The scales run up both ways.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 07:37 PM

Ah, I wasn't sure. That makes sense.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 07:38 PM

Whatever happened to those who ordered the last batch of Varese Clubs? I recall they shipped on April 6th. Anyone get Howard's Russkies? I want to know what you think.


I finally received Nightwing last week (shipped on the 13th - more than a week after they started shipping) so they're not exactly pushing them out the door.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 09:06 PM

When BATMAN FOREVER came out in 95, I remember buying the U2 single, which had a B-side of music from the film. I remember it started with the second half of 'Main Title and Fanfare' and continued with the new theme, as heard in 'Fledermausmarschmusik', which I believe is how it was scored in the opening of the film. Can anyone confirm this, and was this an edit or was that technically a piece that was left off the score?
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 09:15 PM

A friend of mine had that CD, I think it had 4 score tracks altogether, including the one (I forget which track it is) with the "Bat----maaaaaaaaan" brass.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:45 AM

In Star Trek III (and I think IV?) the Genesis Tape has been rerecorded with Kirk replacing Carol Marcus. Yet, III is set right after II, so when would he really have time to do this and why? It wasn't a Federation proposal, it was a proposal to the Federation itself, and includes no information about the Genesis planet,. Am I missing something, or did this have something to do with having to pay Bibi Besch for her performance again?
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:00 PM

That's a good question. Memory Alpha doesn't say anything about this. It probably was because Paramount didn't want a Godfather Part II or Superman II situation, where they reprise a main character's vocals in a sequel without paying the actor (and this was years before Universal did it anyways with Back to the Future Part II), and thus face a lawsuit.

I think I just always assumed that Kirk just restated the Genesis tapes as part of one of his Captain's Logs, so he wouldn't have to refer to Carol's propsal as a second document. That log would go on file with Starfleet, explaining its usage at the beginning of Star Trek IV when the Klingon ambassador goes off about Kirk, but it doesn't explain how it fell into Klingon hands for Star Trek III. They would have had to intercept the signal, anyways, to learn about the Genesis project in the first place, which makes sense from a Cold War perspective, of the Klingons (Russians) eavesdropping on Federation (American) transmissions, and vice versa.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 06:49 PM

Quick question... I just received the Intrada Signature Edition of Re-Animator/Ghoulies. Why do they call it a Signature Edition, and not one of their Special Collection releases? What makes it a "signature edition"? In collectibles like Star Wars prop replicas, Signature Edition items are usually autographed by an actor or filmmaker.

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 06:58 PM

I never understood the difference between the Signature, Collector, and Excalibur editions.
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Posted 24 May 2009 - 05:46 PM

Quick question... I just received the Intrada Signature Edition of Re-Animator/Ghoulies. Why do they call it a Signature Edition, and not one of their Special Collection releases? What makes it a "signature edition"? In collectibles like Star Wars prop replicas, Signature Edition items are usually autographed by an actor or filmmaker.



The answer is at Intrada.

Signature

A series focusing on music by important composers for select projects scored between higher profile films.




Excalibur focuses on re-recordings and the Special Collection scores are the regular mainstream releases.

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 10:27 PM

In Star Trek III (and I think IV?) the Genesis Tape has been rerecorded with Kirk replacing Carol Marcus. Yet, III is set right after II, so when would he really have time to do this and why? It wasn't a Federation proposal, it was a proposal to the Federation itself, and includes no information about the Genesis planet,. Am I missing something, or did this have something to do with having to pay Bibi Besch for her performance again?


About Star Trek III. As happy as I am to have Nimoy back for IV and, to a lesser degree, V and VI -- how the anti-matter that destroyed Genesis doesn't affect his resurrected cells?
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Posted 25 May 2009 - 02:04 AM

Quick question... I just received the Intrada Signature Edition of Re-Animator/Ghoulies. Why do they call it a Signature Edition, and not one of their Special Collection releases? What makes it a "signature edition"? In collectibles like Star Wars prop replicas, Signature Edition items are usually autographed by an actor or filmmaker.



The answer is at Intrada.

Signature

A series focusing on music by important composers for select projects scored between higher profile films.




Excalibur focuses on re-recordings and the Special Collection scores are the regular mainstream releases.



Thanks for the info, Mark. I guess I'm still confused at how Re-animator got selected for a Signature release. What higher profile work did Richard Band do beyond Re-Animator? Oh well... splitting hairs I guess. Still, a fine release and a fun listen.

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 07:11 AM

Uhhhm...

Why was the Williams Viola Concerto thread closed???
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:50 PM

Closed?

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 06:29 PM

It looks open to me.

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 06:36 PM

Hey, I have a quick question.

This is a hilarious cover version of the oldie "Let's Twist Again"!



I have 2 questions:

1. Some parts of it are sung, I believe, in a foreign language. Is it in Polish?

2. At 1:07 the guy starts singing a different song ("laaaa-lalalalalala etc."). It's very short, but recognizable. What is this song called?

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 08:04 PM

1. Some parts of it are sung, I believe, in a foreign language. Is it in Polish?


I assume it's Polish, because the uploader, pajczukin, says he's 28 from Poland. There are Poles here who can confirm.


2. At 1:07 the guy starts singing a different song ("laaaa-lalalalalala etc."). It's very short, but recognizable. What is this song called?


Crocodile Rock, by Elton John

It's at 1:07 here, too:
http://www.youtube.c...M...=PL&index=6

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 08:17 PM

Ahhh yeah, thanks!

Strangely enough, I never heard this song "Crocodile Rock," although the lalala part was familiar to me. Huh.

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 08:58 PM

Does anyone have a WAV or mp3 of George Takei saying "OH MY!"? I've tried googling but come up short.




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