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#241 Diego

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 07:52 PM

Hmm... "Hook-Napped" comes to mind.
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Posted 07 July 2009 - 08:39 PM

I can't believe FSM is selling this for $179.95! This was for promotional purposes only.

BTW I have this. I picked it up at a yard sale for 3 Euros, I believe.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 08:45 PM

Hey, I have a quick question reg. Jaws Main Theme...

At the beginning of this, you can hear very soft sounds that sound like underwater noise... even before the first dum-dum starts. I dunno really how to describe it, but it conjures up images of being deep underwater... What is this exactly? Did JW write that? Does the orchestra do that, or is that a sound effect?

You can hear it best in the Spielberg/Williams version the Jaws Theme, I think!


I believe that could be bowed low piano strings. I remember this effect was duplicated live at Avery Fisher Hall in 2006. At that concert, though, it could have been simply very soft low piano clusters, which acoustically, in a large space, can sound rather ambiguous and undefined.

Possibly, it could also be soft palm "hammering" on the lower strings inside the piano..

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 12:10 AM

How many times has an album track begun with a cue that chronologically follows the cue that is including on the second half of the track? That doesn't make much sense, so context: I'm going through the Anthology redoing my ROTJ edit, and 'Heroic Ewok/The Fleet Goes Into Hyperspace' is such a case, where Heroic Ewok should come after The Fleet Goes Into Hyperspace.



On the Special Editions it's corrected.

I can't believe FSM is selling this for $179.95! This was for promotional purposes only.

BTW I have this. I picked it up at a yard sale for 3 Euros, I believe.

http://www.screenarc...ail.cfm?ID=7804



SAE is selling it, FSM is a label.

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 08:33 AM

I can't believe FSM is selling this for $179.95! This was for promotional purposes only.

BTW I have this. I picked it up at a yard sale for 3 Euros, I believe.

http://www.screenarc...ail.cfm?ID=7804


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Posted 08 July 2009 - 09:40 AM

Screen Archives are great but never buy anything used from them unless you're loaded as they always charge ridiculously for the rare and out of print CD's.


Yes. When I want something used, I go to amazon or ebay.

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 03:05 PM

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 03:10 PM

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 09:12 AM

What is the best release of Henry Mancini's Peter Gunn music? Apparently, this one has very poor sound quality, so I am reluctant to get this release....
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 05:59 PM

I only have the theme and I think one other cue on the Ultimate Mancini compilation CD.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 11:40 PM

Hey guys:

Can you please tell me what piece of music that is in the trailer?


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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:27 AM

Hm, it sounds like it could just be generic trailer music.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:42 PM

Hm, it sounds like it could just be generic trailer music.


hmm well I think it is played by real instruments.. I don't think it is generic atall.. now 160bpm thats what I call generic
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 03:44 PM

Doesn't sound that generic to me, and I'm sure they're real instruments/choir. No idea what it is though.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 04:03 PM

WOW. I really like that, sounds great. When anyone knows what it is, let us know so I can search for it! lol :folder:
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 04:31 PM

If that doesn't sound generic, no trailer music does.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 04:32 PM

If that doesn't sound generic, no trailer music does.


I agree. It sounds like the trailers of every LOTR knock-off movie. Faux-epic.

The game is a rerelease of the first Broken Sword game, but I don't know if they've replaced the soundtrack. I don't believe the original sounded like that though.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 04:39 PM

Almost sounds like something by Brian Tyler.


Rather generic sounding.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 05:02 PM

What is the best release of Henry Mancini's Peter Gunn music? Apparently, this one has very poor sound quality, so I am reluctant to get this release....


I do kinda like the one by the Blues Brothers

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 05:19 PM

I nominate the Spy Hunter soundtrack.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 07:07 PM

Does anyone know the correct order for the Sleeping With The Enemy OST by Jerry Goldsmith? ;)
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 07:10 PM

Might want to check the Chronological Order Thread for that one.

EDIT: Never mind, I see you already did.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 08:48 PM

Might want to check the Chronological Order Thread for that one.

EDIT: Never mind, I see you already did.


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Posted 14 July 2009 - 03:14 AM

Does JW recieve royalties on his score releases? Obviously the OSTs would, I'm talking more about the stuff Intrada, FSM, Varese, etc. releases.
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 03:44 PM

Does JW recieve royalties on his score releases? Obviously the OSTs would, I'm talking more about the stuff Intrada, FSM, Varese, etc. releases.


Of course. Why shouldn't he?

Even Monty Norman received royalties from his "hard work" on Quantum of Solace. :)

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 09:17 PM

Was the version from "Accidentally In Love" from the Counting Crows that sounds at the beginning of Shrek 2 officially released?

I just remembered How I liked that version but could find nothing about it. All there is is the album version.

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 09:02 PM

I haven't seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind, but I saw it at the library today and picked it up. When I got home, I inspected it closer, and found that it contained only disc 2 (labelled "Special Edition") of the 30th Anniversary 3-disc set. Question: In the opinion of whoever answers this, is it worth it to go ahead and see it now anyway, and just see the original cut some other time, or should I hold off and track down the original cut first?

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 09:09 PM

I'd probably want to see either the 1977 original cut or the 1998 final cut first, but thats just me. the 1980(?) "Special edition" features a silly scene of the actual inside of the spaceship which really should have been best left to the imagination
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 02:17 AM

I haven't seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind, but I saw it at the library today and picked it up. When I got home, I inspected it closer, and found that it contained only disc 2 (labelled "Special Edition") of the 30th Anniversary 3-disc set. Question: In the opinion of whoever answers this, is it worth it to go ahead and see it now anyway, and just see the original cut some other time, or should I hold off and track down the original cut first?



Track down the original cut or the third version.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 03:13 PM

Does anyone know who the session players were for "Cinderella Liberty"? There is some really good playing on "poppier" numbers such as "Neptune's Bar". Actualy, I could ask the same question for "The Paper Chase", and "Earthquake". Anyone out there got any answers?

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:32 PM

The harmonica solos are by Jean "Toots" Thielemans. The CD doesn't list anyone else.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:38 PM

The Paper Chase and Earthquake don't list anyone either.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 08:22 PM

Does anyone know who the session players were for "Cinderella Liberty"? There is some really good playing on "poppier" numbers such as "Neptune's Bar". Actualy, I could ask the same question for "The Paper Chase", and "Earthquake". Anyone out there got any answers?


I may be able to help you out with some of the personnel on these scores, Richard. I wrote an analysis of Williams's Earthquake score for this site a few years back and found a few titbits of info on the soundtrack personnel for that movie and some other Williams scores from the period.

With regard to Cinderella Liberty, apart from Toots Thielemans on harmonica whom Koray has already mentioned, the score benefited from the guitar playing of Dennis Budimir who seems to have been Williams's guitarist of choice for many of his jazzier scores at that time (he also played on The Paper Chase and Earthquake, for example, the latter alongside the legendary Tommy Tedesco). You will find that Lalo Schifrin, Jerry Fielding and others featured Dennis Budimir in many of their best scores in the 70's too. Earl Palmer was the drummer and, perhaps most interestingly of all, Brazilian percussionist Mayuto Correa performed on the soundtrack. He was/is considered as one of the world's best jazz percussionists (especially on the congas - check out the track New Shooter) and also performed for Isaac Hayes on the soundtrack for Shaft, for example. Here is a picture of Mayuto:

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It looks like he's on Facebook, so perhaps someone familiar with the workings of that social networking tool can give him a prod, a poke or a slap or whatever it is one does. On Earthquake, the main pianist was Clare Fischer (who is a man, by the way) with other personnel including legendary session players Shelly Manne (drums) and Vince de Rosa, who seems to have played french horn on just about every Hollywood score ever written! The percussionist on this score and Paper Chase was Emil Radocchia (otherwise sometimes known as Emil Richards), another regular collaborator with Lalo Schifrin and other 70's and 80's greats.

Unfortunately I do not know who was responsible for the fabulous sax playing on Cinderella Liberty, but I hope the rest is of some interest. It is a real shame that the soundtrack personnel are not routinely listed in all Williams CDs, although it is pleasing to see that many of his recent releases have a full listing.
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Posted 05 August 2009 - 04:09 AM

Does anyone know who the session players were for "Cinderella Liberty"? There is some really good playing on "poppier" numbers such as "Neptune's Bar". Actualy, I could ask the same question for "The Paper Chase", and "Earthquake". Anyone out there got any answers?


I may be able to help you out with some of the personnel on these scores, Richard. I wrote an analysis of Williams's Earthquake score for this site a few years back and found a few titbits of info on the soundtrack personnel for that movie and some other Williams scores from the period.

With regard to Cinderella Liberty, apart from Toots Thielemans on harmonica whom Koray has already mentioned, the score benefited from the guitar playing of Dennis Budimir who seems to have been Williams's guitarist of choice for many of his jazzier scores at that time (he also played on The Paper Chase and Earthquake, for example, the latter alongside the legendary Tommy Tedesco). You will find that Lalo Schifrin, Jerry Fielding and others featured Dennis Budimir in many of their best scores in the 70's too. Earl Palmer was the drummer and, perhaps most interestingly of all, Brazilian percussionist Mayuto Correa performed on the soundtrack. He was/is considered as one of the world's best jazz percussionists (especially on the congas - check out the track New Shooter) and also performed for Isaac Hayes on the soundtrack for Shaft, for example. Here is a picture of Mayuto:

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It looks like he's on Facebook, so perhaps someone familiar with the workings of that social networking tool can give him a prod, a poke or a slap or whatever it is one does. On Earthquake, the main pianist was Clare Fischer (who is a man, by the way) with other personnel including legendary session players Shelly Manne (drums) and Vince de Rosa, who seems to have played french horn on just about every Hollywood score ever written! The percussionist on this score and Paper Chase was Emil Radocchia (otherwise sometimes known as Emil Richards), another regular collaborator with Lalo Schifrin and other 70's and 80's greats.

Unfortunately I do not know who was responsible for the fabulous sax playing on Cinderella Liberty, but I hope the rest is of some interest. It is a real shame that the soundtrack personnel are not routinely listed in all Williams CDs, although it is pleasing to see that many of his recent releases have a full listing.

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 09:53 AM

What is the piece John Williams is performing in this (wonderful) documentary (he is visibly shown playing it at 3:19)? Is it an original John Williams composition or what?


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Posted 07 August 2009 - 01:39 PM

What is the piece John Williams is performing in this (wonderful) documentary (he is visibly shown playing it at 3:19)? Is it an original John Williams composition or what?




Listening to Williams speak I get the impression it's music composed by someone else.


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Posted 07 August 2009 - 08:07 PM

Did Williams compose "Suo Gan" and "Exsultate Justi" from Empire of the Sun?
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Posted 07 August 2009 - 08:14 PM

Exsultate Justi, yes. Suo Gan, no.

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 08:17 PM

What is the piece John Williams is performing in this (wonderful) documentary (he is visibly shown playing it at 3:19)? Is it an original John Williams composition or what?


It's Le grillon, the second of French composer Maurice Ravel's song cycle Histoires Naturelles. Le grillon is French for 'cricket' (as in the grasshopper-like insect rather than the game). The words that the woman is singing are from poems by Jules Renard.
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Posted 07 August 2009 - 08:18 PM

Exsultate Justi, yes. Suo Gan, no.

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