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#2361 Maglorfin

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:32 AM

Sinfonia Antartica,


My favourite! I'd also add the 2nd - 'London' symphony to the list.


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Posted 29 April 2012 - 12:44 AM

Where, maybe a film score, may I have heard this before? It's like I have it in my head, but I can't spot it!





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Aaaah, nevermind, I remember it now!



Rósza's version and variation on it are amazing.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:31 PM

It's "Dex' Diner", and not "Dex's Diner"; am i correct?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:41 AM

Where, maybe a film score, may I have heard this before? It's like I have it in my head, but I can't spot it!


Poledouris also used Cantigas de Santa Maria in Conan the Barbarian (to great effect, I might add), so in addition to El Cid, maybe you also made some subconscious connection to Conan.


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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:54 AM

A quick "Blade Runner" question: is the choir on "Prodigal Son Brings Death" real, or synthesized?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:56 AM


Where, maybe a film score, may I have heard this before? It's like I have it in my head, but I can't spot it!


Poledouris also used Cantigas de Santa Maria in Conan the Barbarian (to great effect, I might add), so in addition to El Cid, maybe you also made some subconscious connection to Conan.


True, I read that. Do you know where he uses them in that score?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:55 PM



Where, maybe a film score, may I have heard this before? It's like I have it in my head, but I can't spot it!


Poledouris also used Cantigas de Santa Maria in Conan the Barbarian (to great effect, I might add), so in addition to El Cid, maybe you also made some subconscious connection to Conan.


True, I read that. Do you know where he uses them in that score?


Poledouris used Cantigas de Santa María in The Tower Of Set/Snake Attack.


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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:42 PM

It's "Dex' Diner", and not "Dex's Diner"; am i correct?


No. "Dex's Diner" (such that rhymes with Vexes Finer instead of Hex Minor) is grammatically correct. In English, apostrophe S is used to show possession when the possessing item does not end in S. George's car. Jim's book. Fido's bone.

When the possessor does end in S, only the apostrophe will suffice. Claudius' horse. Sixteen peoples' territory. Using apostrophe S would be cumbersome. Santos's apple. Sometimes, though, you will hear the apostrophe S used anyways in conversation to emphasize possession, since you can't "hear" the apostrophe in speech, but in writing, it's unnecessary.

While Dex does end in an S sound created by the letter X, it is not an S, so it would use the apostrophe S.

A simple web search found this at Wookieepedia.: Dex's Diner
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:18 AM

Poledouris used Cantigas de Santa María in The Tower Of Set/Snake Attack.


Exactement. What a great cue!


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:44 AM

Can you post examples and time stamps to compare? Sorry, I'm like the least educated person in music on this board.

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hehe don't you think I know it's nearly impossible? it's just that there's a big chance I'll be in NZ during the premiere so...

Get a job at the theater the premiere will be at. Bing, bang, boom.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:58 AM

So that's life according to Koray? "Bing, bang, boom"? If everything was as simple as "Bing, bang, boom", Koray, I'd be the one making The Hobbit, and there wouldn't be starfish hairdos, pigeons shitting on Radagast, or rabbits pulling fucking sled. But as it is, I have a shitty job, I hate my life, and I wanna kill myself. So, keep your "Bing, bang, boom" to yourself, please, Ko-Ray.


P.S.: Life According To Koray would be a great name for a TV show. Don't know if it would be a great show, but the title would be kick-ass nonetheless...

Oh, no, wait, better: The Legend Of Korray! ;)

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:02 AM

Oh, no, wait, better: The Legend Of Korray! ;)

Avatar for the win!



And to reiterate a quick question I asked in the Howard Shore thread: Does Firefox act up for anyone else when they open threads with multiple embedded videos from Youtube etc.? My CPU usage hits the roof and freezes the computer. Is there a way to stop this from happening?

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:07 AM

Get a job at the theater the premiere will be at. Bing, bang, boom.


now that's not such a bad idea! shit, I'll even work for free...


But as it is, I have a shitty job, I hate my life, and I wanna kill myself.


that explains so much...

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:25 AM


But as it is, I have a shitty job, I hate my life, and I wanna kill myself.


that explains so much...


What is that supposed to mean? I don't like your tone, Saltie!

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:30 AM



But as it is, I have a shitty job, I hate my life, and I wanna kill myself.


that explains so much...


What is that supposed to mean? I don't like your tone, Saltie!

You make her sound like a scurvy pirate when you call her Saltie. :lol: Har!

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:33 AM


Oh, no, wait, better: The Legend Of Korray! ;)

Avatar for the win!





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Posted 04 May 2012 - 02:31 PM


Poledouris used Cantigas de Santa María in The Tower Of Set/Snake Attack.


Exactement. What a great cue!


Yeah!, It's one of my favourite cues from Conan The Barbarian. :)
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:10 PM

I have a shitty job, I hate my life, and I wanna kill myself.


Would you like therapy before you do that, or would you like to grace the news outlets like Junior Seau?
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 05:34 PM

This has probably been discussed, but being at work, I don't have the time to go through the 32 pg of Indiana Jones Unreleased Music Resource.



I'm confused about the Temple of Doom End Credits. I know the film version has a different beginning than the album. But any and all cue lists I look at don't show two different End Credits. Is that a film version INSERT that isn't mentioned on cue lists? Was there two different End Credits written and recorded? I can't find any documentation on it.

And of course, sorry if this is super obvious and I'm being a doofus lol.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:04 PM



Poledouris used Cantigas de Santa María in The Tower Of Set/Snake Attack.


Exactement. What a great cue!


Yeah!, It's one of my favourite cues from Conan The Barbarian. :)


Thanks, it's been a while since I listened to this one. :)

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:46 PM


Get a job at the theater the premiere will be at. Bing, bang, boom.


now that's not such a bad idea! shit, I'll even work for free...

My brother did it that way. He used to work at a theater in the area and then got a hook-up from the company to work the night of the premiere at the AMC Uptown in DC. The Great Raid and The Guardian had their premieres there.

Oh, no, wait, better: The Legend Of Korray! ;)

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:01 PM

This has probably been discussed, but being at work, I don't have the time to go through the 32 pg of Indiana Jones Unreleased Music Resource.



I'm confused about the Temple of Doom End Credits. I know the film version has a different beginning than the album. But any and all cue lists I look at don't show two different End Credits. Is that a film version INSERT that isn't mentioned on cue lists? Was there two different End Credits written and recorded? I can't find any documentation on it.

And of course, sorry if this is super obvious and I'm being a doofus lol.

I think there's one version, we're just missing the Raiders March section between the end of Return to the Village and the start of the slave children theme. There's an "alternate" album version that's edited.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:24 PM

Which cd of The Sea Hawk is the best one?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:39 PM

The Morgan Stromberg is the most complete re-recorded score, the Gerhardt is said to be the best recording though.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:49 PM

The Morgan/Stormberg/Naxos is the most complete and very good, with a somewhat too Russian chorus and a very much too Russian soloist. The Gamba/Chandos is great, a bit more lively than the Naxos, and with proper pronounciations, but not as complete. The Kojian/Varese is similar, very energetic and "Golden Age" sounding, but limited to about 40 minutes (LP length). The Tsunami album is Korngold's OST. Curiously, I find his own tempos on this score a little slower than you'd expect; I prefer the re-recordings.

The best stuff is the bits and pieces recorded by Charles Gerhardt on his "Classic Film Scores" series (not listed at your link). They're only suites from some parts of the score though - but they do include the best Strike for the Shores of Dover.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:37 PM

I think i'll take the Gamba/Chandos one. Thanks for the help!

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:39 PM

I'm also interested in these scores, and on this case it sounds like I need all of them.

We'll see.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:57 PM

I think that Incanus asked this before.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:08 AM


This has probably been discussed, but being at work, I don't have the time to go through the 32 pg of Indiana Jones Unreleased Music Resource.



I'm confused about the Temple of Doom End Credits. I know the film version has a different beginning than the album. But any and all cue lists I look at don't show two different End Credits. Is that a film version INSERT that isn't mentioned on cue lists? Was there two different End Credits written and recorded? I can't find any documentation on it.

And of course, sorry if this is super obvious and I'm being a doofus lol.

I think there's one version, we're just missing the Raiders March section between the end of Return to the Village and the start of the slave children theme. There's an "alternate" album version that's edited.


Ah, that makes sense...album version is edited. Thanks for your insight!

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:58 AM

I think i'll take the Gamba/Chandos one. Thanks for the help!


I think that Incanus asked this before.


Actually I answered this Seahawk question before. With Marian, who beat me to the punch this time. ;)

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:21 AM

I asked this question a while ago, and these are the responses I got:

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:01 PM

Actually I answered this Seahawk question before. With Marian, who beat me to the punch this time. ;)


I've got my stock reply for this question ready now, so I don't need long to reply. ;)

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:31 PM

Is there a recording available of JW conducting the 1812 Overture?
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:35 AM

I've got my stock reply for this question ready now, so I don't need long to reply. ;)


You have a .txt file with your reply somewere on your desktop. ;)

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:45 AM

In case somebody knows: which version of Herzog's Nosferatu should I see? The German one or the English one? I've read people say good things about both, I'm confused.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:49 AM

The German one is said to be the more natural one.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:36 PM


I've got my stock reply for this question ready now, so I don't need long to reply. ;)


You have a .txt file with your reply somewere on your desktop. ;)


I don't put files on my desktop.

I simply have my response memorised.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:39 PM



I've got my stock reply for this question ready now, so I don't need long to reply. ;)


You have a .txt file with your reply somewere on your desktop. ;)


I don't put files on my desktop.

I simply have my response memorised.


... in your brain's desktop. ;)

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:44 PM

I wrote all my posts years ago (this one too). Scrupulous planning, as they say, is a key to success!

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:05 AM

The German one is said to be the more natural one.


I'll go for that one then.




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