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#41 Jay

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 07:33 PM

Did you really just erase all the posts that mentioned what the next two FSM releases are? What's the point? Once its out there, it's out there. Erasing the posts won't change the fact that it's now known what they are

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 07:37 PM

Did you really just erase all the posts that mentioned what the next two FSM releases are? What's the point? Once its out there, it's out there. Erasing the posts won't change the fact that it's now known what they are


why was it known?

is it on any other boards, where people can instantly read it? or were you the only one - and only a coupple of people could see it.
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Posted 17 April 2009 - 07:41 PM

FSM has explained several times why they're so secretive about their releases: there's always the possibility a deal falls through at the last minute.

There's a reason there's a date for their announcement and effective immediately, if any of this cover art (or the title) leaks out before a release date it will be removed from this site.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 07:56 PM

Well, for those of you who missed it, the next 2 FSM CDs are known, but the big summer "holy grail" release is still a mystery.

I hope it's Gremlins!!

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:13 PM

FSM has explained several times why they're so secretive about their releases: there's always the possibility a deal falls through at the last minute.


yeah ,but that's their problem if it got leaked anyways . I dunno about erasing posts like that ,especially since it's not even anything illegal... We are not affiliated with FSM as far as I know of so your just making a personal call here

It would be like erasing the spoilers to a movie just because you feel like it

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:21 PM

FSM has explained several times why they're so secretive about their releases: there's always the possibility a deal falls through at the last minute.


Then they shouldn't upload the stuff on a public server. Period.
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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:29 PM

FSM has explained several times why they're so secretive about their releases: there's always the possibility a deal falls through at the last minute.


Then they shouldn't upload the stuff on a public server. Period.


Thats true, Jason did not do anything forbidden. It was an open link, reachable for anybody.
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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:34 PM

FSM has explained several times why they're so secretive about their releases: there's always the possibility a deal falls through at the last minute.


Then they shouldn't upload the stuff on a public server. Period.


True. But just because they make stupid mistakes doesn't mean we have to make it worse. It's us who want to get their releases, after all.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:59 PM

FSM has explained several times why they're so secretive about their releases: there's always the possibility a deal falls through at the last minute.


Then they shouldn't upload the stuff on a public server. Period.


True. But just because they make stupid mistakes doesn't mean we have to make it worse. It's us who want to get their releases, after all.


that's also true of course.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 02:16 AM

I wouldn't even know what was missing from the Hook OST, apart from the End Credits.......

A lot.


LOL. Yeah. It'd be great to see this from FSM in the not-too-distant-future.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 02:28 AM

Someone want to PM me the next FSM releases?


I've never heard the Gremlins theme, but I'm guessing it must be good because nearly everyone on here loves it! :)

I present to you: The Gremlin Rag
"Close Encounters to me is as good a piece of concert music as the 20th century has produced. Everybody fixates on... the Superman fanfare, or Star Wars - Main Theme, or the Raiders March. It's what happens after that, it's not the big popular hook where you go: 'My God John Williams is a genius.' Y'know it's the stuff which is maybe less hooky and less hummable, but is great art." - Hans Zimmer

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 03:31 AM

I present to you: The Gremlin Rag


Is that one of the highlights of the score? If so, then I do not think I will be buying a Gremlins CD if it was ever released. But hey, more for you guys, right?
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 03:48 AM

I wouldn't mind Gremlins, as I used to love the Gremlins theme long before I ever got interested in film music. Its so 80s and yet so perfect. Probably would be more of a nostalgia buy than anything.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 03:55 AM

I present to you: The Gremlin Rag


Is that one of the highlights of the score? If so, then I do not think I will be buying a Gremlins CD if it was ever released. But hey, more for you guys, right?

Yes, it is the theme everyone knows and loves! You listened to the whole thing, right? Cause it starts of slow and quiet.
"Close Encounters to me is as good a piece of concert music as the 20th century has produced. Everybody fixates on... the Superman fanfare, or Star Wars - Main Theme, or the Raiders March. It's what happens after that, it's not the big popular hook where you go: 'My God John Williams is a genius.' Y'know it's the stuff which is maybe less hooky and less hummable, but is great art." - Hans Zimmer

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:02 AM

Oh, I listened to all four minutes or so of it, the "slow and quiet" beginning was my favorite part. I am not sure if I should mention this, but I am beginning to think I am not really a fan of Jerry Goldsmith (though I do love The Omen).
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:02 AM

I only like a handful of his scores.

Off the top of my head: Gremlins, Dennis The Menace, Great Train Robbery, The Edge, Congo, The Mummy, Air Force One, Chinatown, Under Fire.
"Close Encounters to me is as good a piece of concert music as the 20th century has produced. Everybody fixates on... the Superman fanfare, or Star Wars - Main Theme, or the Raiders March. It's what happens after that, it's not the big popular hook where you go: 'My God John Williams is a genius.' Y'know it's the stuff which is maybe less hooky and less hummable, but is great art." - Hans Zimmer

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:31 AM

And John, I freakin' love your signature.

Of course, after all you're a reasonable, intelligent, all-around good fellow with great taste. :)

I can't believe there are people here that are basically willing to just spit in FSM's face when they do so much for us.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:38 AM

Sometimes a little common sense and courtesy is all it takes.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:46 AM

I'll be courteous by deleting what I had written here. No sense whining like a little girl about two albums I probably won't want anyways.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:56 AM

Speculating is one thing, deliberately posting future release info discovered through nefarious means that they want to keep secret until they announce it for various legitimate reasons is another thing entirely.

Should FSM do more to keep things they want secret secret? Absolutely! But that doesn't excuse it.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:58 AM

Speculation is completely different because you have no idea if you are right or wrong. The labels give you clues and people have fun with it.

And while the labels should probably find a better way to store their images it's plain rude to post something you had no hand in working on especially when it's not ready to be announced yet.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 05:06 AM

Never mind.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 05:12 AM

Well given the hard work and money these labels sink into bringing us this music I would thnk people would be a little more respectful and courteous.


But hey whatever floats your boat I guess.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 05:31 AM

Speculating is one thing, deliberately posting future release info discovered through nefarious means that they want to keep secret until they announce it for various legitimate reasons is another thing entirely.

Should FSM do more to keep things they want secret secret? Absolutely! But that doesn't excuse it.


Agreed, if FSM doesn't want the stuff to leak out before hand they need to quit putting the art work up on their servers before the releases. I also agree people shouldn't post the information before the release.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 01:27 PM

Is that one of the highlights of the score? If so, then I do not think I will be buying a Gremlins CD if it was ever released. But hey, more for you guys, right?


One of them. The synth stuff may take a little getting used to, but there's great stuff in the score. For the rag, I much prefer the sequel version. There's only a brief bit at the end of this video, but it also includes the brilliant Pot Luck (nearly full length, too).

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 03:18 PM

While i consider Gremlins a classic 80's score ...Gremlins 2 is little more than a coaster for me (the opening track is good )

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 03:22 PM

Oh, I listened to all four minutes or so of it, the "slow and quiet" beginning was my favorite part. I am not sure if I should mention this, but I am beginning to think I am not really a fan of Jerry Goldsmith (though I do love The Omen).



I'm not really fan of him either, just some select scores. However I do completely respect the work he has done and his unique voice in the industry.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 03:26 PM

I love some of Goldsmith scores, he's one of the reasons I'm a film music fan. But I've said it many times ,not all this scores are great and I just don't get people falling over themselves over something like Runaway , The Cassandra Crossing and Extreme Prejudice (and dozens of other ones) . I think the attention he's getting from the labels is disproportionate to the actual quality of the music

Williams is the ONLY composer I think every note should be released

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:10 PM

Gidget Goes To Rome shouldn't be released!
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 05:29 PM

I love some of Goldsmith scores, he's one of the reasons I'm a film music fan. But I've said it many times ,not all this scores are great and I just don't get people falling over themselves over something like Runaway , The Cassandra Crossing and Extreme Prejudice (and dozens of other ones) . I think the attention he's getting from the labels is disproportionate to the actual quality of the music

Williams is the ONLY composer I think every note should be released



That has to be one of the most ignorant and mis-informed statements posted here.

Not everything Williams touches is great either.


If you want to criticize his works fine but perhaps you should stop there.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 05:48 PM

If you want to criticize his works fine but perhaps you should stop there.

I'm sure KM will heed your call, and all will be right with the world.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 05:55 PM

Don't take those odds to Vegas.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 06:08 PM

I can't believe there are people here that are basically willing to just spit in FSM's face when they do so much for us.

Seems more like FSM shooting themselves in the foot.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 07:28 PM

I love some of Goldsmith scores, he's one of the reasons I'm a film music fan. But I've said it many times ,not all this scores are great and I just don't get people falling over themselves over something like Runaway , The Cassandra Crossing and Extreme Prejudice (and dozens of other ones) . I think the attention he's getting from the labels is disproportionate to the actual quality of the music

Williams is the ONLY composer I think every note should be released



And even with Williams your interest level comes to a screeching halt if the work in question does not waddle in certain narrowly defined musical parameters, read easily identifiable Hollywoodized harmonies and tunes.

As André Previn put it in his bio, 'No Minor Chords', indeed!
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 07:36 PM

That can go both ways too for Williams. Not everyone thinks all of Williams' works are a master piece. Hell I don't think not every one of Goldsmith's works are master pieces but I do prefer him over Williams'. Only the 'hardcore fanboys' think that everything Williams' writes is a master piece.

Plus not everything from Williams will get released, at least while he's still alive.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 07:45 PM

Well Williams has nixed a release of The Sugarland Express, which is a shame because it's the first film with Spielberg. But again, if you look at Williams' discography you will see he was pretty much the first composer to have expanded scores released and he is well represented on CD.

I mean look at it this way, Williams assembles and records cues especially for the original E.T. album. Goldsmith scores Gremlins and can only get 16 minutes of score on the album.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 08:23 PM

I've never been a fan of Goldsmith; I guess his style just doesn't work for me, and I don't like the way he uses synths.

Sure, I like a selection - 13th Warrior, The Mummy, The Edge and some of his Trek music, but he isn't a composer I get excited over. I even bought his 40 Years compilation over Christmas in an attempt to get more acquainted with his music. I liked most of the first CD but then my interest started to taper.

And I think I've ascertained that the next 2 FSMs are LP reissues, so I can probably give them a miss.

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 12:02 AM

Only a proper stereo release of Family Plot can bring balance to the universe.

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 06:31 AM

I've never been a fan of Goldsmith; I guess his style just doesn't work for me, and I don't like the way he uses synths.


I highly recommend Runaway and Alien Nation, two of Goldsmith's orchestral masterpieces of the 80's.

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 11:06 AM

I've never been a fan of Goldsmith; I guess his style just doesn't work for me, and I don't like the way he uses synths.


I highly recommend Runaway and Alien Nation, two of Goldsmith's orchestral masterpieces of the 80's.

I don't like the way he uses musical instruments.





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