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[Incanus]

Predator gets a 3rd release? Well done from licensor, composer and producer! I hope such trend continues.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Yea I dunno why people complain when something like this happens.

Finally, anybody who wants to own the terrific score to Predator will be able to do so for twenty bucks. This is a good thing. The fact that they are going to undo their edits and crossfades and add back in the missing cue (I assume) is icing on the cake

[Stefancos]

Yeah, but you Intrada is not giving you any choice.
They are putting the gun to your face and are forcing you to buy it.

[Incanus]

What? How is that? It is more like they are offering you a chance to buy this score if you missed out on the last two releases. I can see that those who have one or both prior releases might feel disappointed that this time they have corrected minor flaws but they are not forcing you to buy it again. Unless you are extremely anal about those cross fades etc and have to absolutely have the tracks in the form they are now releasing them. In which case you will buy this release and grumble about having to buy it all over again.

Now Intrada, since you are re-releasing things, could you re-release Indy Box Set with complete scores in it? Pretty please!

[Trent Bennett]

Now Intrada, since you are re-releasing things, could you re-release Indy Box Set with complete scores in it? Pretty please!

I wouldn't count on that...

[Stefancos]

What? How is that? It is more like they are offering you a chance to buy this score if you missed out on the last two releases. I can see that those who have one or both prior releases might feel disappointed that this time they have corrected minor flaws but they are not forcing you to buy it again. Unless you are extremely anal about those cross fades etc and have to absolutely have the tracks in the form they are now releasing them. In which case you will buy this release and grumble about having to buy it all over again.

Oh sorry, did I not use the wink emoticon?

[Incanus]

What? How is that? It is more like they are offering you a chance to buy this score if you missed out on the last two releases. I can see that those who have one or both prior releases might feel disappointed that this time they have corrected minor flaws but they are not forcing you to buy it again. Unless you are extremely anal about those cross fades etc and have to absolutely have the tracks in the form they are now releasing them. In which case you will buy this release and grumble about having to buy it all over again.

Oh sorry, did I not use the wink emoticon?

You should have! It is dangerous to let man read stuff like that in the early hours of the morning and make wrong conclusions and write long defensive posts for nothing. Most irresponsible Mr. Cosman.

[Drax]

My 15 copies I bought last time are going to be worthless!

[Stefancos]

You should have! It is dangerous to let man read stuff like that in the early hours of the morning and make wrong conclusions and write long defensive posts for nothing. Most irresponsible Mr. Cosman.

The way they are going on at FSM you'd think the Predator re-issue has been made from freshly killed new born babies!

[Incanus]

Well FSM MB has always been a loon magnet. We here at JWFan are much more level headed and go nuts only if it is about JW or an occasional Goldsmith album.

[Richard Penna]

Now Intrada, since you are re-releasing things, could you re-release Indy Box Set with complete scores in it? Pretty please!

I wouldn't count on that...

Humour. A difficult concept.




Seriously have you guys seen the bitching over at FSM? They've amassed 3 long pages of complaining in one day.

You just can't win with these people. They moaned about Predator being limited to 3000 (I remember Clemmenson's huge rant) and some 'questionable' edits, and now that Intrada's going to correct that and make it more available, they bitch again! And if they'd done a straight reissue, still more people would complain that they don't listen to their customers. Meh.

[ManofDestiny]

I am thinking, if I return my old copy, will they send me an expanded new copy?

[Stefancos]

No

[avalanche]

I'm glad it's going to be available again, at a reasonable price. Saves me the money from obtaining a overpriced copy on eBay.

Has anyone picked up Sir Gawain? I'm listening to the samples over and over, trying to decide if I want to take the plunge. The music sounds wonderful.

[Marian Schedenig]

Undecided about Gawain so far.

[Koray Savas]

Anyone want to buy my Predator CD for $60? That's a steal!

[Hedji]

I just sold mine for $30 to fund my purchase of the new edition. No complaints here.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Roger:

I do want to clarify one point, since I'm the one wheeling and dealing and negotiating deals, I take responsibility for the PREDATOR reissue. Obviously everyone involved is very supportive, but the demand actually comes from me, since I wasn't comfortable with the overnight sell out, and this one in particular bothered me. While we were at it, we made some adjustments to the people who wanted to hear it a specific way. Personally, I prefer our first release as a listening experience, so not to disparage the new one, the Special Collection is more musical (and actually benefits from not having the additional music added), so I find it the superior presentation. Although, I will probably create a shorter program for myself anyway, as the entire score is a long haul!

But I hope everyone buys the new one because it's time to upgrade the Jaguar I bought with the proceeds from the first edition.

Seriously, I understand some people are upset by this, but keep some perspective. It's just a CD. I'd rather talk about the scary trend of women's rights backsliding in America out of the blue. But NOT here. This is a film music forum.

[Koray Savas]

Sold my old issue for $22 on Amazon today.

[Jason LeBlanc]

This is only the 3rd time I can remember flat out saying exactly what a release is before the release day (the other two being Star Trek VI and Robocop)

[Trent Bennett]

I give kudos to Roger for making amends with this and releasing the proper version for those of us who prefer the correct presentation.

To those that have been complaining about this release, well I say let them. IF they're happy with the original Intrada issue, then fine but they don't need to piss on those of us who prefer a correct version.

I'll chuck my original version of the Intrada set. However, I'll keep my Varèse edition for historical reasons.

[Wojo]

I wish that I hadn't opened my first Intrada Predator in June, because I still haven't listened to it yet anyways.

[Drax]

I'd rather talk about the scary trend of women's rights backsliding in America out of the blue.

They are? I've been a bit out of the loop lately.

[ManofDestiny]

I feel bad. Not because of the re-issue. It's just because the previous Intrada's release was not complete. I need to buy it again.

[Drax]

My old Intrada will do me. No need to upgrade since this is more for people who missed out.

[Miles Prower]

I'd rather talk about the scary trend of women's rights backsliding in America out of the blue.

They are? I've been a bit out of the loop lately.

Without wishing to get political, look up 'war on women' and 'Rush Limbaugh'.

[MrJosh]

I don't get why people (not here on JWfan) are complaining so much...I'll take multiple releases of a score anytime. If a great score gets a re-release with some improvements, I'll buy it.

[Wojo]

The people who complain probably feel like the limited edition soundtrack album industry is twisting our arms in an attempt to make us buy every release that piques our interest, which of course it's not. If you don't want the album, walk away and enjoy what you have.

They may complain because they shelled out hundreds for an Intrada or Varese limited edition album after the sell-outs, and now they feel like the darn fools they really are that others can pick it up unlimited in the $20-$30 price range.

Or they stocked up on a dozen of either edition, intending to sell them for a markup much higher than face value, and this reissue eats into their speculative profit margin.

[Richard Penna]

I've always thought that if a customer buys more than a few copies, their real intentions become clear.

But since they could order from multiple retailers, you can't really stop the profiteers.

[Wojo]

I may skip this release and wait for the next reissue in two years.

[Trent Bennett]

I may skip this release and wait for the next reissue in two years.

That has to be the most retarded post I've read from you in a while. The Predator release is an MAF release, meaning it's unlimited. I really doubt it's going to come out again in 2 years.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Trent, he was joking...

[Wojo]

That has to be the most retarded post I've read from you in a while. The Predator release is an MAF release, meaning it's unlimited. I really doubt it's going to come out again in 2 years.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Trent Bennett]

http://store.intrada...it.A/id.7476/.f
Price: $19.99

PREDATOR

Label: Intrada MAF 7118
Date: 1987
Tracks: 20
Time = 76:05

Ok! You spoke... we listened! Completely re-mastered release of complete Alan Silvestri soundtrack for John McTiernan alien action movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger comes as both licensor (20th Century Fox) and composer seek re-release of wildly popular score to wider market. You asked for every drop of blood, we now give it to you. New CD restores tiny bits edited from earlier issue, removes select crossfades, includes brief cue "The Aftermath" prior to "End Credits". CD plays in chronological order as originally scored by composer. Silvestri's incredibly muscular score is dynamite example of scoring via small motifs. Rhythmic punctuation in low brass, melded with busy percussion figures, creates incredibly terse, aggressive foundation for melodic ideas in strings, upper brass. Another cool idea has heroic musical signature for Schwarzenegger anchoring score yet almost all motifs, ideas are rooted in minor harmonies, not the expected major. Resulting music remains grim, tough, violent throughout! Intrada MAF series release with modest enhancement to original graphic design by Joe Sikoryak plus reprise of informative liner notes from Julie Kirgo. Alan Silvestri conducts.

01. Fox Logo (Alfred Newman/Arranged by Elliot Goldenthal 1992) 0:26
02. Main Title 3:52
03. Something Else/ Cut 'Em Down/ Payback Time 7:37
04. The Truck 4:23
05. Jungle Trek 1:48
06. Girl's Escape 5:59
07. Blain's Death 0:47
08. What Happened? 2:01
09. He's My Friend 1:26
10. We're Gonna Die 3:29
11. Building The Trap 3:06
12. The Waiting 3:27
13. Can You See Him? 4:52
14. Dillon's Death 2:05
15. Billy And Predator 2:36
16. Dutch Builds Trap 9:29
17. Predator Injured 4:15
18. Hand To Hand Combat 3:10
19. Predator's Death 3:43
20. The Aftermath / The Pick-Up And End Credits 7:01

http://store.intrada...it.A/id.7473/.f
Price: $19.99

ISLAND AT THE TOP OF THE WORLD, THE

Label: Intrada Special Collection Volume 193
Date: 1974
Tracks: 20
Time = 47:44

At last! World premiere release of exciting, melodic large-scale orchestral score by Maurice Jarre for Robert Stevenson action fantasy from Walt Disney Pictures, starring David Hartman, Jacques Marin, Mako. Jarre opens with heroic minor-key fanfare-theme for French horns, trumpets, then moves into soaring melodic territory representing fanciful flying machine in flight. Discovery of ancient Viking civilization, subsequent battles, raging volcano all inspire composer to create one of the most colorful, exciting scores of his prolific, award-laden career. Standing out amidst the excitement is extremely moving, gentle theme for Donald, lost son of businessman that plays at heart of fanciful tale. Haunting theme is one of composer's finest! Intrada CD presents complete score in dynamic stereo, newly mixed from original multi-track session masters vaulted in beautiful condition in Disney vaults. Colorful graphic design from Joe Sikoryak plus liner notes from Jeff Bond complete handsome package. Maurice Jarre conducts. Intrada Special Collection release available while quantities and interest remain!


01. Title & Theme 2:38
02. We're Under Way 1:46
03. The Dirigible 3:12
04. Full Speed 0:53
05. Traveling 5:19
06. Oomiak Is Trapped 2:02
07. Follow It 2:14
08. The Storm 1:43
09. They Start the Trek 1:50
10. Donald's House 1:40
11. We Know Donald 2:11
12. The Viking City 2:26
13. The Chase 4:34
14. In the Volcano 2:08
15. Burning Lava 1:56
16. Escape Through the Ice Palace 1:58
17. Battle with the Sea Beasts 2:36
18. Flyin' Without Engine 2:41
19. God's Punishment 1:45
20. Happy Ending 1:25

[Jason LeBlanc]

Thanks for the enthusiasm guys! We get lots of requests for people's favorite Disney titles, holy grails and whatnot. Condorman this, In Search Of Noah's Ark that, The Black Cauldron this, True Life Adventures that... you get the idea.

If it'll help satisfy your cravings... enjoy knowing we love the same scores you do and we're working on them. And it's all because our partners at Disney are being generous in letting us all finally have "the stuff dreams are made". (A little Bogart quote.) For me, it's like throwing a dart just to see where it hits. The Disney vaults are packed with all sorts of childhood favorites. And grownup favorites, too! I'm literally a kid in a candy store right now. But we're moving as quickly as we can. Some projects require an extensive amount of research, others need a lot of transferring, mixing and assembly. Fortunately, Disney has always been proactive at vaulting and protecting their music, be it old or new, so realizing these dreams is actually possible.

Let's face it. All of this is beyond anything we all could have imagined. Having Randy Thornton for a partner is nirvana, too. His list of favorites is just like yours and ours. Roger, Joe and I were sitting with him in his studio a few weeks ago watching him and his engineer tackle one of the holy grails we've all been asking for. It was a joy to see how much passion he has for this stuff. Yep. He's one of us!

So things are happening. In fact, besides the Jarre disc that just came out, we have two more Disney releases coming up very soon. I think both are real gems.

What a great time to be a soundtrack collector!
--Doug

Source: http://www.intrada.n...t=4685&start=15

Sounds exciting!

[The_Trout]

I've loved Randy Thornton for years. He's done truly phenomenal work getting vintage Disney material out there, both from films and from the parks. His "Musical History of Disneyland" and "1964 World's Fair" boxed sets were masterstrokes.

[Nemesis]

Sounds really very exciting! I'm sure there will be something good for almost everyone.

[Richard Penna]

I may skip this release and wait for the next reissue in two years.

That has to be the most retarded post I've read from you in a while. The Predator release is an MAF release, meaning it's unlimited. I really doubt it's going to come out again in 2 years.

Humour. A very difficult concept...

[Marian Schedenig]

Robin Hood? Mulan? Does Doug's comment mean we can practically expect stuff like/exactly these sooner or later?

[Jason LeBlanc]

It means they are working with an employee at Disney who wants all the same scores released we do, and its only a matter of time until they all come out.