The Official Intrada Thread
#4161
Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:00 PM

#4162
Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:35 PM
#4163
Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:45 PM

#4164
Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:51 AM
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#4165
Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:47 AM
#4166
Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:49 AM
Did I missed something? Why are you so sure that it will be Trek 5? (Don't get me wrong, I just want to know if it is confirmed)
I've heard rumblings of it getting re-issued and that's basically the only thing that would be changed so it fits the clues.
#4167
Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:51 AM
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#4168
Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:54 AM
#4169
Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:01 AM
So will it be one CD of the expanded score? Or both two CDs? Anyway, I've got the Lalaland's set so it's a pass for me. But always glad to see a unlimited classic score.
Don't you want your spine to match the others?
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#4170
Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:06 AM
So will it be one CD of the expanded score? Or both two CDs? Anyway, I've got the Lalaland's set so it's a pass for me. But always glad to see a unlimited classic score.
Uhhhh safe to assume Star Trek V will be the 2-CD set.
#4171
Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:10 AM
So will it be one CD of the expanded score? Or both two CDs? Anyway, I've got the Lalaland's set so it's a pass for me. But always glad to see a unlimited classic score.
Uhhhh safe to assume Star Trek V will be the 2-CD set.
Hey Trent, does the LLL CD have the cue names/numbers in the cd text/car radio text?
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#4172
Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:46 AM
Don't you want your spine to match the others?
No. But then again, I don't display my CDs proudly. Once ripped, they go into a box in the closet, never to be seen again.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
#4173
Posted 11 May 2012 - 07:38 AM
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
#4174
Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:44 PM
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
#4175
Posted 11 May 2012 - 03:11 PM
#4176
Posted 11 May 2012 - 04:03 PM
#4177
Posted 11 May 2012 - 04:07 PM
Hey Trent, does the LLL CD have the cue names/numbers in the cd/car radio text?
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#4178
Posted 11 May 2012 - 04:24 PM
Hey Trent, does the LLL CD have the cue names/numbers in the cd/car radio text?
I don't know. We recently replaced our car CD player but haven't played official CDs in it. I've only played CD-R copies since I don't like taking my official versions out with me.
#4179
Posted 11 May 2012 - 04:50 PM
#4180
Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:14 PM
I checked a while back, it doesn't. The cue names/numbers are in the booklet though.
I only see the numbers...
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#4181
Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:16 PM
#4182
Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:17 PM
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#4183
Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:41 PM
That being the case, setting the Goldsmith scores apart would be appropriate, IMHO.
I'm in no rush to repurchase Trek V. It may happen, but the LLLR release is already fantastic.
I'll get the other scores before refreshing V.
#4184
Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:06 PM
It will be nice for those like ETandElliot who couldn't get the LLL version to own the Intrada set. I may pick it up in due time so it conforms with the Star Trek IV and VI releases. If I do I'll still keep my LLL version.
You're actually entertaining the notion of rebuying it so the spines match?
We're not talking about the Predator reissue here... why rebuy exactly the same product?
#4185
Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:09 PM
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#4186
Posted 11 May 2012 - 07:07 PM
It is essential. Forms a spine of the whole score, if you will.
It will be nice for those like ETandElliot who couldn't get the LLL version to own the Intrada set. I may pick it up in due time so it conforms with the Star Trek IV and VI releases. If I do I'll still keep my LLL version.
You're actually entertaining the notion of rebuying it so the spines match?
We're not talking about the Predator reissue here... why rebuy exactly the same product?
Karol
#4187
Posted 11 May 2012 - 07:17 PM
If I and V match, it's the closest thing to a Star Trek TOS Movie box set we can get.
Not a big deal, simply a nicety.
Look at it this way. With all of the ways in which things can be nitpicked to death, as both soundtrack and Star Trek fans love to do (I speak as a member of both columns), the spine is literally the only thing "wrong" I can find. I would not even say "wrong", but perhaps mildly inconsistent.
Buy as "collector types", it's just one of those things that we notice.
That speaks to just how great this series of releases are.
#4188
Posted 11 May 2012 - 07:28 PM
It's just a "would be nice for consistency" thing. I'm one of those that is lining up all his Trek movie scores, and it would be nice for the spines to match, as they do for Trek II, II, IV and VI.
If I and V match, it's the closest thing to a Star Trek TOS Movie box set we can get.
Not a big deal, simply a nicety.
Look at it this way. With all of the ways in which things can be nitpicked to death, as both soundtrack and Star Trek fans love to do (I speak as a member of both columns), the spine is literally the only thing "wrong" I can find. I would not even say "wrong", but perhaps mildly inconsistent.
Buy as "collector types", it's just one of those things that we notice.
That speaks to just how great this series of releases are.
Likewise. As far as nit-picking goes, definitely I can be that way too with Trek. Just like how in 7 years of Voyager, they NEVER ran out of photon torpedoes. lol
You're actually entertaining the notion of rebuying it so the spines match?
Some like myself and OneBuckFilms are considering it. As we both said though since it'll be an MAF release it can be bought whenever.
We're not talking about the Predator reissue here... why rebuy exactly the same product?
Yes I know we're not talking about Predator....but read mine and OneBuck's reply.
#4189
Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:35 PM
Re-buying a score so that the spine matches is as asinine as buying multiple copies of a single album just for all unique collector art.
But hey, it's your money. Enjoy it.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
#4190
Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:46 PM
Funny how nobody considers asking someone who missed out on ST-V the first time around to remove their insert from the jewel case, make a high resolution scan, upload/email it to the interested parties, who can then print out the spin and insert it into their jewel case, saving themselves $30.
I would just download the spine of the intrada release, of coure, I don't have the LLR release either
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#4191
Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:49 PM
Commenting-by-phone makes providing a link difficult, but it's not going to kill you to find it yourself.
As for me, I'm going to put the LLL on amazon, see if I can earn some money back.
#4192
Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:04 PM
On a side note: At least we get some sort of confirmation that Paramount wants these things released.
Karol
#4193
Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:37 PM
I'm definitely buying this as the full score is awesome, but is the OST just a bunch of edited cues (not very interesting) or lots of alternates?
A bit like LLL's Alien Resurrection - I didn't bother ripping the remastered OST as it's just a selection of the score with some edits.
Also, Varese could take a serious lesson in album rights management from MV.
#4194
Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:55 PM
The movie had different takes, different overlays etc. compared to the OST.
A somewhat similar situation to the FSM/SAE/Retrograde Star Trek III.
In addition, there are a few interesting alternate and source cues on the second CD along with the OST, including the film version of "The Moon's A Window to Heaven".
#4195
Posted 12 May 2012 - 12:08 AM
Most of the cues on the OST for Star Trek V are somewhat different from the score as heard in the movie.
The movie had different takes, different overlays etc. compared to the OST.
A somewhat similar situation to the FSM/SAE/Retrograde Star Trek III.
In addition, there are a few interesting alternate and source cues on the second CD along with the OST, including the film version of "The Moon's A Window to Heaven".
Yes that's true. Even for towards the ending of "Let's Get Out Of Here" when the Klingon Bird Of Prey shows up and destroys "god".
#4196
Posted 12 May 2012 - 03:54 AM
#4197
Posted 12 May 2012 - 04:39 AM
I think specialty labels rely their fans being maniacally obsessive nit pickers and think that having complete set of these scores without matching spines would drive most to distraction.Matching spines? I used to be pedantic about this sort of thing, but now I kind of like the inconsistency in this regard.
Of course they are right.
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#4198
Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:03 AM
Does the original album presentation have anything really notably different to the full score?
I'm definitely buying this as the full score is awesome, but is the OST just a bunch of edited cues (not very interesting) or lots of alternates?
Some cues are expertly edited on the OST, so they are more listenable than the film cues (two major action cues, anyway).
#4199
Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:46 PM
Here is the straight dope:
A little while after the cd sold out Lukas came to me and asked if we wanted to reissue the cd. I said no. We told our customers its 5000 units, so that means its 5000 units. He said cool, do you mind if Intrada reissues it? I said no, I don't mind. It makes sense Paramount would want it in print to make a few extra bucks.
A few more months pass and I hear from Sony Music informing me that Intrada wants to reissue Trek V. Sony asks if we want to repress or hand the rights over to Intrada. I said hand them over. I've been there...done that and now it's time to move on.
Not too long after Roger emails me and asks if its cool if they reissue Trek V -- keeping the same master and liner notes, but changing up the artwork. I tell him Warp Speed ahead!
So, Intrada can now press up to 10,000 more units of Trek V (or 5,000...depending on how the AFM Historical Rate applies to this situation). I wish them well and hope it sells.
MV
Source: http://filmscoremont...?threadID=88844
I'm glad all the speculators who bought multiple copies of Trek 5 just to sell later got screwed over.
#4200
Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:56 PM
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