Holy schnikes! Roger's clue for the day was simply "1985"!
Back to the Future
The Goonies
Young Sherlock Holmes
The Black Cauldron
The Journey of Natty Gann
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I think it's one of the first three of these. Disney's been good about 3000 editions so far. As has already been stated, the seemingly imposed limit of 2500 would indicate a new kind of deal. Warner has generally been pretty good about releases, and The Goonies is a pretty oft-requested score. Universal would be newer territory, though, and the deal required to get BTTF out may have included the lower number. There could be something to do with the Paramount issue with YSH, but with a 3000 release for Airplane!, that seems unlikely. This could be BTTF, folks. My guess for a runner-up is The Goonies. I would think that with Intrada's good relationship with UMG and Paramount's new policies that YSH, having been recorded in London, would not require a more strict limit. Man, I hope I get back in town in time on Monday.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 06:14 PM
You are probably right about Young Sherlock Holmes, but I would love for it to get an official release.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 06:14 PM
I can't imagine BttF being released that limited. As others have said based on recent events Natty Gann is probably the most likely.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 06:44 PM
I doubt it'll be The Black Cauldron, you can get it on iTunes from Varesse and since the iTunes Plus deal is still kinda recent I would say Varesse still has the rights (other Varesse titles dissapered after the transition to iTunes Plus, but Black Cauldron remains).
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 07:44 PM
PLEASE let it be Back To The Future!!!! 
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 07:50 PM
I actually hope it's not BTTF, they have to make more than 2500.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 08:15 PM
Yeah, me too. I'm gonna be out of town this weekend and probably won't get home until late Monday night. Here's hoping for a later announcement time than we got last Monday.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 08:29 PM
Yeah true, it would be bad news at only 2500 if it was Back To The Future. 
But if it is, I'm having two copies!
But if it is, I'm having two copies!
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Fake just ruled out Young Sherlock Holmes and The Black Cauldron.I doubt it'll be The Black Cauldron, you can get it on iTunes from Varesse and since the iTunes Plus deal is still kinda recent I would say Varesse still has the rights (other Varesse titles dissapered after the transition to iTunes Plus, but Black Cauldron remains).
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He not only ruled them out, but gave further clarity in the clue: this is a title that was one of the most requested at the time apparently, and since, even though they were not definitive or anything, YSH and Black Cauldron got releases, that sort of negates them.
Was The Journey of Natty Gann particularly popular back then--at least in film score circles? As much sense as it makes, it seems really weird that after so many 3000 unit releases, they'd suddenly enforce a 2500 unit limit. The thing about all this is that the number would seem weird with any really popular score from that time. Right now I'm standing by BTTF and Goonies as my best guesses, but it really is a puzzler.
Was The Journey of Natty Gann particularly popular back then--at least in film score circles? As much sense as it makes, it seems really weird that after so many 3000 unit releases, they'd suddenly enforce a 2500 unit limit. The thing about all this is that the number would seem weird with any really popular score from that time. Right now I'm standing by BTTF and Goonies as my best guesses, but it really is a puzzler.
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If only we could go back in time to find out!Was The Journey of Natty Gann particularly popular back then--at least in film score circles?
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 09:21 PM
Other than Natty Gann, I'm going to second a guess for The Goonies, about which I've heard rumours. Haven't heard a note from either of these.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 10:39 PM
I'm just trying to work out if the 2500 unit number is in itself, a clue.....
Is that number related to Back To The Future in anyway? I don't think it is, but you never know..........
Is that number related to Back To The Future in anyway? I don't think it is, but you never know..........
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 10:45 PM
Of those three, the only one I know is BTTF. But given all the hullabaloo, I'd probably order any of them.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 11:22 PM
I'm just trying to work out if the 2500 unit number is in itself, a clue.....
Is that number related to Back To The Future in anyway? I don't think it is, but you never know..........
I really doubt they'd try to do that. The only reason I can think of BTTF getting a <3000 pressing is because the OST is still in print and very much available. But it's not like that's a competitor...
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The factors I can see being a limit on BTTF would be...
1) Huey Lewis songs
2) New arrangement to work with Universal
3) In print album
The Goonies is seeming like a probability to me. The different labels and such involved could complicate things enough to require a more limited release. I don't recall why, but someone at the Intrada boards was thinking that it's NOT going to be Natty Gann. If it's not, then The Goonies sounds like the likeliest thing, and that would make me a very happy camper.
1) Huey Lewis songs
2) New arrangement to work with Universal
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The Goonies is seeming like a probability to me. The different labels and such involved could complicate things enough to require a more limited release. I don't recall why, but someone at the Intrada boards was thinking that it's NOT going to be Natty Gann. If it's not, then The Goonies sounds like the likeliest thing, and that would make me a very happy camper.
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Posted 21 June 2009 - 03:00 AM
I doubt it'll be The Black Cauldron, you can get it on iTunes from Varesse and since the iTunes Plus deal is still kinda recent I would say Varesse still has the rights (other Varesse titles dissapered after the transition to iTunes Plus, but Black Cauldron remains).
Actually the Varese album was a re-recording so Intrada could release the actual score tracks.
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Posted 21 June 2009 - 05:26 AM
1985... Pee-Wee's Big Adventure came out in 1985....
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Doug already said on the Intrada message board that it's not The Black Cauldron (or Young Sherlock Holmes).I doubt it'll be The Black Cauldron, you can get it on iTunes from Varesse and since the iTunes Plus deal is still kinda recent I would say Varesse still has the rights (other Varesse titles dissapered after the transition to iTunes Plus, but Black Cauldron remains).
Actually the Varese album was a re-recording so Intrada could release the actual score tracks.
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I know, I hang out at Intrada as well. I was just pointing out that the Varese wasn't the original tracks and somewhere down the line it could still be released, hopefully.
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Posted 21 June 2009 - 07:55 PM
The Varese release of Pee-Wee's Big Adventure was a re-recording...Intrada could still release the original recording...which was recorded in 1985....
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Gotta be Back To The Future, gotta be!
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Only 2500 copies for BTTF? I hope not.
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 04:58 AM
That would suck if BTTF was a short limited run like that oh well if it does, it does probably the resuse fees played a major part in it.
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I'm happy with the OST.
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When I first read that I was thinking "Oh, that's funny." And then when it really sunk in I just bursted out laughing.
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My guess is that it will be The Goonies. Even though it's WB, the situation with the OST album (which was released on the Epic/Sony label) probably forced the parties involved to some kind of more restrictive deal in terms of licensing--maybe Cindy Lauper's song will be included.
I think it will not be BTTF. I think we'll see it next year, because it will be 25 years from the release, so that a substantial cut-off of the re-use fees could be applied.
I think it will not be BTTF. I think we'll see it next year, because it will be 25 years from the release, so that a substantial cut-off of the re-use fees could be applied.
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I agree, it would seriously surprise me if this is BTTF, frankly. The Goonies would be a dream come true!
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It sure would be awesome if it's The Goonies.....
but it's probably something obscure most people won't care about
but it's probably something obscure most people won't care about
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 03:04 PM
Indeed.
Although I am curious about the stricter re-use fees on this one that limits it to 2500. Perhaps there is a song on it.
Although I am curious about the stricter re-use fees on this one that limits it to 2500. Perhaps there is a song on it.
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It seems it's going to be Journey of Natty Gann. Feigelson said we were all getting carried away. Guess what, Roger, then don't give '1985' as a clue next time.
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So it is not going to be Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, is it?
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It seems it's going to be Journey of Natty Gann. Feigelson said we were all getting carried away. Guess what, Roger, then don't give '1985' as a clue next time.
No, people just gotta quit expecting homeruns and realize there are many many film scores out there that people like.
And I would say if you are a betting man I would go with James Horner for tonite's release.
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If I were a betting man, I would go with the following title:It seems it's going to be Journey of Natty Gann. Feigelson said we were all getting carried away. Guess what, Roger, then don't give '1985' as a clue next time.
No, people just gotta quit expecting homeruns and realize there are many many film scores out there that people like.
And I would say if you are a betting man I would go with James Horner for tonite's release.
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By the way, I'm wondering what compelled the "stricter license."
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 07:16 PM
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I'm listening to a rather badly rendered item of footwear pertaining to that score.
Has some nice parts, although they're mostly just the main theme repeated. I'll consider it if it's that one.
Has some nice parts, although they're mostly just the main theme repeated. I'll consider it if it's that one.
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Yeah, it really does look like it is going to be Journey of Natty Gann. Someday we will get a glorious album for Pee-Wee's Adventure, containing useless alternate takes and anecdotes from Paul Reuben...someday.
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I wonder what gave it away?Yeah, it really does look like it is going to be Journey of Natty Gann.
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Hmm, I wonder if Horner recorded Gann in the US instead of using the LSO like he did on the last two releases.
That might explain the 2500 unit.
That might explain the 2500 unit.
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