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Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:18 PM

Michael Fassbender will star opposite Noomi Rapace in Prometheus


Noomi... My love. I am officially excited for this. Glad to see her doing not Swedish films. ;)

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 09:28 AM

It's good to see them going for unknown faces. Remember Winona Ryder as the android?


Make up your mind Ridley!


Just a thought but everyone always said you can't have an Alien movie without Sigourney Weaver so maybe the answer lies in there.


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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:00 PM

I don't want this to be related to Alien...

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:11 PM

I would like them to stay away from the whole "Alien chasing human around in darkly lit spaceship/station/colony" as much as possible.
Maybe Scott can find a complete new angle that's has not been explored.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:12 PM

I do, I've been waiting ten years for this to happen.
Repeat the JWFan pledge after me: 'I hereby recognise John Towner Williams' place in the world as the great composer there has ever been, and I therefore renounce the works of Rozsa, Korngold, Herrmann, Horner, Kamen, Giacchino (unless the prophecy is fulfilled and he becomes the heir to JTW) and Goldsmith, especially Goldsmith. I understand that if I ever refer to Jurassic Park as anything less than "a masterpiece sixty-five million years in the making" I will be resigned to living out my days at the Zimmershrine.'

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:35 PM

I would like them to stay away from the whole "Alien chasing human around in darkly lit spaceship/station/colony" as much as possible.
Maybe Scott can find a complete new angle that's has not been explored.


I'm sure there will be a new mystery and a new threat. Scott knows all too well the old one is weared out. Maybe the Space Jockeys (the creators of the famous monster?) are going to be pretty nasty creatures themselves.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:41 PM

The old Dark Horse comic had the space jockeys use the aliens as biological warfare, almost like chemical agents. Send in the aliens, who kill or impregnate everyone, then come in and take over when the planet is dead. Ridley's always said he thought of them as genetically engineered weapons (obviously the same line the Company always took as well).
Repeat the JWFan pledge after me: 'I hereby recognise John Towner Williams' place in the world as the great composer there has ever been, and I therefore renounce the works of Rozsa, Korngold, Herrmann, Horner, Kamen, Giacchino (unless the prophecy is fulfilled and he becomes the heir to JTW) and Goldsmith, especially Goldsmith. I understand that if I ever refer to Jurassic Park as anything less than "a masterpiece sixty-five million years in the making" I will be resigned to living out my days at the Zimmershrine.'

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:41 PM

There were rumours about the space jockeys doing some really scary things with a few humans.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:44 PM

There's probably no good way to make it a prequel to the original Alien using the same characters that wake on the Nostromo (read: with Ripley) and a Xenomorph unless they get their memory wiped before being put into cryosleep.

And that's not really a good plot device. It says "do what you want during this movie, because even if you directly influence the next film, it will be forgotten." Since Ripley remembers the events of the previous movie in the sequel, memory wipes are not established as commonplace before cryosleep.

Sorry if that was debunked and I'm just trolling. But the space jockeys would be cool to show. They'd present a superior race that created a biological weapon they could not control, which would be analogous to what Weyland-Yutani tried to do later.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:49 PM

I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about the presence of the Space Jockeys, wheter the actual space jockeys if it's a prequel or an analogue lifeform if it isn't.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:51 PM

I will say it'll be cool to see that cockpit set again. I wonder how Ridley will shoot it this time.
Repeat the JWFan pledge after me: 'I hereby recognise John Towner Williams' place in the world as the great composer there has ever been, and I therefore renounce the works of Rozsa, Korngold, Herrmann, Horner, Kamen, Giacchino (unless the prophecy is fulfilled and he becomes the heir to JTW) and Goldsmith, especially Goldsmith. I understand that if I ever refer to Jurassic Park as anything less than "a masterpiece sixty-five million years in the making" I will be resigned to living out my days at the Zimmershrine.'

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:52 PM

There were rumours about the space jockeys doing some really scary things with a few humans.


And any alien who chest-bursts itself from a giant Space Jockey is going to be much bigger than the ones we are familiar with. So there are 3 new potential threats:

1) The planet which is hostile to humans (they plan to terraform it)

2) The Space Jockey who's like a Na-vi but certainly not as friendly

3) The giant Xenomorph born out of a Space Jockey
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:55 PM

I'm also pretty sure Ridley Scott is doing his own thing and not taking into account the later films, but the original ideas of the creatures instead.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 01:04 PM

Well, there was a mention of "big aliens".

I'd be nice if the queen was ignored and the focus was squarely back on how scary the original alien is.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 01:15 PM

I'd be nice if the queen was ignored and the focus was squarely back on how scary the original alien is.


Yes, but like I said, Scott is the first to know that this doesn't work anymore.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 04:50 PM


I'd be nice if the queen was ignored and the focus was squarely back on how scary the original alien is.


Yes, but like I said, Scott is the first to know that this doesn't work anymore.


considering his last few films, Scott doesn't know what works anymore.
If it isn't high concept the it's not worth watching believed the pseudo superior one.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 04:58 PM

I predict this film won't make much of a dent, except to those who worship Ridley Scott.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:08 PM

Vague statements like these are also easy applicable to the films of Nolan.



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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:11 PM

I just want to know if Streitenfeld will be scoring or not.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:12 PM

If I were a Nolan fanboy I'd argue with you.


However it's not a vague statement, the Alien franchise has become a joke and I can't remember the last relevant film Scott has made.

And say what you want about Nolan but he's delivered.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:12 PM

Well, there was a mention of "big aliens".

I'd be nice if the queen was ignored and the focus was squarely back on how scary the original alien is.



I don't think the Queen makes it less scary. Actually the creature itself isn't really scary.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:17 PM

However it's not a vague statement, the Alien franchise has become a joke and I can't remember the last relevant film Scott has made.



Gladiator.


"Close Encounters to me is as good a piece of concert music as the 20th century has produced. Everybody fixates on... the Superman fanfare, or Star Wars - Main Theme, or the Raiders March. It's what happens after that, it's not the big popular hook where you go: 'My God John Williams is a genius.' Y'know it's the stuff which is maybe less hooky and less hummable, but is great art." - Hans Zimmer

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:18 PM

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:18 PM

Gladiator bored me to death.

I still don't get what went wrong with that one.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:21 PM

Massive disappointment all around, plus it was almost 11 years ago.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:23 PM

And say what you want about Nolan but he's delivered.


If we're talking 'success', then yes.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:24 PM

Financial and critical success, Alex.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:27 PM

Critical success can go only so far.

It's nice to be recognized by a select few but you've got to be better than that.


My bosses think I do a great job but if the business suffers because of the economy then it doesn't matter.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:28 PM

My bosses think I did a great job....

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:29 PM

Financial and critical success, Alex.


Just temporary hype, steef. Just ask joey. He's always right ... when it comes to Nolan. ;)
"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:30 PM

Nolan is currently better than the current Ridley Scott, but not as good as the first Ridey Scott. Also, Nolan is less a "filmic mercenary" than Scott.

(He's obssesed by Blade Runner, by the way. I wonder if he'll do a similar film someday).


Just a question, is Snyder temporary hype? Was the original Scott temporary hype?

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:31 PM

The problem was, they should have stopped the Alien franchise after the second film, actually they should have stopped after the first film.. Not every film needs a sequel.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:32 PM

Massive disappointment all around, plus it was almost 11 years ago.


Well you said relevant, and Gladiator boomed in terms of financial and critical success. Honestly I'd take Black Hawk Down over it, but that one didn't do as well.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:33 PM

Nolan is currently better than the current Ridley Scott, but not as good as the first Ridey Scott. Also, Nolan is less a "filmic mercenary" than Scott.

(He's obssesed by Blade Runner, by the way. I wonder if he'll do a similar film someday).


True. And the sad thing is, I do believe Nolan's success wil have an influence on how Hollywood is making films ... but that will pass too.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:56 PM


Financial and critical success, Alex.


Just temporary hype, steef. Just ask joey. He's always right ... when it comes to Nolan. ;)


my personal opinions are always right for me.

Nolan failed with inception, succeeded with Dark Knight, failed with batman begins, failed with Prestige. In baseball that's an acceptable percentage.

Thats the way I see it.

even the great and almighty Alex didn't care much for Robin Hood by Scott. perhaps being knighted has taken his zest away.
If it isn't high concept the it's not worth watching believed the pseudo superior one.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 05:57 PM

Did you see Insomnia or Memento?
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 06:00 PM

they weren't worth mentioning. Insomnia was HORRIBLE.
If it isn't high concept the it's not worth watching believed the pseudo superior one.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 06:01 PM

I've seen Inception and the Batmans. I'm dying to see Mmento, The Prestige and TDKR right now.

Also, to make Ridley Scott some justice, I'll have to check out The Duellists.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 06:05 PM

I don't think anyone is criticizing Scott's old stuff.

sorry to hear you're dying.
If it isn't high concept the it's not worth watching believed the pseudo superior one.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 06:06 PM

sorry to hear you're dying.


I'm not!

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