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#881 Stefancos

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:39 AM

Don't ever watch that movie right after you have seen Blade Runner. You'll cry....

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:48 AM

If you're gonna watch Suckerpunch, don't watch it on the goddamn tele. Watch the DC on Blu-ray. Still not good, but hey, you gotta give it a fair chance. Don't forget, the movie has its die hard fans.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:50 AM

Alex - who remembers watching Someone To Watch Over Me felt like watching TV movie of the week.

Indeed. Is that Ridley Scott?!

Lee - who sort of liked it as a teenager, because of curvy Mimi...



If you're gonna watch Suckerpunch, don't watch it on the goddamn tele. Watch the DC on Blu-ray. Still not good, but hey, you gotta give it a fair chance. Don't forget, the movie has its die hard fans.


It'll be in 720p. Good enough. Rambo looked stunning in it the other night.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:13 PM

I finally saw Sucker Punch recently and loved it! It's a really cool film.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:14 PM

Jason LeBlanc - "I loved it!"


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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:16 PM


Jason LeBlanc - "I loved it!"

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Pretty darn sharp eyed analysis there from Quint.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:59 AM

What does everything think the score will sound like? Brian Tyler's AVP2? Goldsmith's Alien? Horner's Aliens? Or something altogether new?

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 06:37 AM

I think it will sound like Streitenfeld which is saying something. Something awful.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:42 AM

Although it was butchered, Ridley has nothing but great things to say about Golddsmith's score. In the documentary he calls it one of the "greats". Someone else comments it's a fantastic score for "Goldsmith's Alien" but not for "Ridley Scott's Alien". Probably true. I love Goldsmith's score but it doesn't suit the film and is far too romantic and operatic for what Ridley wanted to accomplish.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:54 AM

I see this new film as a chance to write something highly original, create an intriguing musical world much like Goldsmith did with his original. I really hope this young composer takes up on that premise. From what I have seen in the trailers the visuals alone provide a brilliant canvas to paint on and draw inspiration from, if Ridley allows for it.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:47 AM

I love Goldsmith's score but it doesn't suit the film and is far too romantic and operatic for what Ridley wanted to accomplish.


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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:52 AM

Although it was butchered, Ridley has nothing but great things to say about Golddsmith's score. In the documentary he calls it one of the "greats". Someone else comments it's a fantastic score for "Goldsmith's Alien" but not for "Ridley Scott's Alien". Probably true. I love Goldsmith's score but it doesn't suit the film and is far too romantic and operatic for what Ridley wanted to accomplish.

Agree 100%. That's why Horner's more abstract approach to the mystery and horror of both the place and the creatures is more successful as score.

Jerry must have just seen Star Wars when he scored Alien.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:01 AM

Hey English, shut yer trap before i come down and close it! Have you ever had an iPad down your arse? It can be arranged you know!

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:02 AM


Although it was butchered, Ridley has nothing but great things to say about Golddsmith's score. In the documentary he calls it one of the "greats". Someone else comments it's a fantastic score for "Goldsmith's Alien" but not for "Ridley Scott's Alien". Probably true. I love Goldsmith's score but it doesn't suit the film and is far too romantic and operatic for what Ridley wanted to accomplish.

Agree 100%. That's why Horner's more abstract approach to the mystery and horror of both the place and the creatures is more successful as score.

Jerry must have just seen Star Wars when he scored Alien.

And funnily when Goldsmith scored Alien he and Ridley talked hardly at all about the music and we all know what happened. Then when they collaborated on Legend they talked about the music like crazy and the score still ended up rejected. Ridley is a fickle master indeed.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:06 AM

Alien like Star Wars? Have you guys gone crazy? Does Star Wars use a didgeridoo? Is Star Wars atonal?

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:08 AM

Alien like Star Wars? Have you guys gone crazy? Does Star Wars use a didgeridoo? Is Star Wars atonal?

I think people are referring to the romanticism of the opening cues. I personally think that it is a great way to open the score, a red herring or initial state, the music conjuring the dreamy wonder of space and exploration which then soon turns into cold horror.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:11 AM

Ridley's preferred opening is far to obvious. It gives the atmosphere away to early.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:47 AM


Although it was butchered, Ridley has nothing but great things to say about Golddsmith's score. In the documentary he calls it one of the "greats". Someone else comments it's a fantastic score for "Goldsmith's Alien" but not for "Ridley Scott's Alien". Probably true. I love Goldsmith's score but it doesn't suit the film and is far too romantic and operatic for what Ridley wanted to accomplish.

Agree 100%. That's why Horner's more abstract approach to the mystery and horror of both the place and the creatures is more successful as score.

Jerry must have just seen Star Wars when he scored Alien.


James must have just seen Star Trek II and III when he scored Aliens.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:55 AM

Goldsmith must have just seen Cocoon when he scored Powder.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:10 PM

Goldsmith must have just seen Cocoon when he scored Powder.


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Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:42 PM

Agree 100%. That's why Horner's more abstract approach to the mystery and horror of both the place and the creatures is more successful as score.

Jerry must have just seen Star Wars when he scored Alien.


Utter bollocks.

How is this anything like STAR WARS?









Sorry, but Horner's approach is just a poor man's Goldsmith, Penderecki and Khachaturian. Sure, there's some nice moments dotted around, but ALIENS as whole it doesn't stand up anywhere near as well as the original. It was written in rush, and it shows.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:45 PM

Alright calm down!

This part is irrelevant to me:

Sorry, but Horner's approach is just a poor man's Goldsmith, Penderecki and Khachaturian. Sure, there's some nice moments dotted around, but ALIENS as whole it doesn't stand up anywhere near as well as the original. It was written in rush, and it shows.


I couldn't give two hoots about the fact that Horner lifted wholesale from others, nor that it was famously rushed - I only care about the score's effectiveness in the movie. Ridley Scott felt the same about Alien, apparently. Usually, the director knows best, particularly seasoned ones.

Now get out of my face with your chronically music-centric views you obtuse clown!

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:51 PM

No man, you calm down!

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 04:22 PM

double post.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

Don't ever watch that movie right after you have seen Blade Runner. You'll cry....


I saw it (Someone To Watch over Me) in the theater at the time. Okay, he made this movie after Legend but I was shocked anyway. I was hoping he sorta would make up for Legend.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:42 PM

Harry Gregson-Williams will be supplying additional score for Prometheus. Source is his official facebook

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:45 PM

Is this Zimmer-styled collaboration logic or did Streitenfeld run out of time or skills?

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:44 PM

Double mediocre is still mediocre.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:45 PM

Double mediocre is still mediocre.

Well that was my first thought but I wasn't going to post something so negative. Good of you to relief me of the burden. I agree.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:17 PM

Needless to say that James Cameron doing the sequel of Prometheus was an April Fools' joke.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:52 PM

This movie looks interesting.

I loled to myself during the trailer. You see the vehicle driving in and then when everything is getting intense, you see the vehicle driving out. I dunno, I found it silly.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:43 PM

Not Harry-Gregson-Williams, too... ugh... no...

Sorry, I just find him to be incredibly generic. There goes any real hope for a Goldsmith-like score. I just don't see it happening.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:54 PM

Not a big fan of HGW either, but I presume his extra bits are going to mesh well with Streitenfeld's score. We'll know in time. No need to judge things before we've heard or seen it.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:54 PM

but I presume his extra bits are going to mesh well with Streitenfeld's score.


Exactly. Zero and zero add up to what again? :sigh:
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:03 AM


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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:53 AM

:lol:

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:44 AM

No saving HGW or Streitenfeld around here is there?

Have to admit, I find HGW's work frequently average - his last few scores did nothing for me at all.

Streitenfeld however I've found rather interesting since he got Robin Hood. The Grey may be no 'The Edge' but I still enjoy it, and I'll give his work on Prometheus a chance.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 02:05 PM

LOL alex!
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:57 PM

A bunch of new pictures:

http://www.heyuguys....clusive-images/



Ridley Scott is mad at the MPAA for giving his cut an R-rating when he felt it deserved a PG13:

http://www.hollywood...Rating/23612948




And finally, a bunch of footage was screened in London yesterday, and there are all kinds of reports about it:

http://www.gizmodo.c...nd-its-awesome/

http://www.cine-vue....reveal-and.html

http://www.examiner....t-of-prometheus

http://movies.ign.co.../1222668p1.html

http://www.pocket-li...-footage-reveal




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Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:58 PM

Dude, she was in the trailers!

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