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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:00 PM

Guess I didn't recognize her

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:04 PM

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:33 PM

I'm continually intrigued by the film, everything I see/read hypes me more

I almost want to stop watching/reading anything so i don't get spoiled

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:10 AM

Sony releases the score (Available on June 5).

http://www.amazon.co...ASIN=B007TBCTRK
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 06:11 AM



Ridley Scott Promises Prometheus Theatrical Release Will be His Director's Cut

“The cut that you’re gonna see in cinemas…it’s always the director’s cut, really,” Scott exclaimed before chatting up on the film’s run time. “I’ve only made a mistake once on cutting a film short — I won’t say what it is right now, because this is not the time — but I removed 17 minutes off a movie, and I didn’t ruin it, but it wasn’t [as effective]. In this instance, you got a pretty good version here, pretty good cut. We’re running at about — I think without the end titles, which normally run about four to five minutes — we’re running one hour, fifty-nine minutes and change. It’s very tight, it’s what it should be.”

http://www.dreadcent...s-directors-cut

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:00 PM


Repeat the JWFan pledge after me: 'I hereby recognise John Towner Williams' place in the world as the great composer there has ever been, and I therefore renounce the works of Rozsa, Korngold, Herrmann, Horner, Kamen, Giacchino (unless the prophecy is fulfilled and he becomes the heir to JTW) and Goldsmith, especially Goldsmith. I understand that if I ever refer to Jurassic Park as anything less than "a masterpiece sixty-five million years in the making" I will be resigned to living out my days at the Zimmershrine.'

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:39 PM

Michael Fassbender was brilliantly cast in this.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 02:58 PM

That was awesome!

I'm continually intrigued by the film, everything I see/read hypes me more

I almost want to stop watching/reading anything so i don't get spoiled


Yeah, same here. I'm getting to that point where I'm afraid I'm going to spoil something....but it's hard not to read things about this movie. Can't wait to see it.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:45 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOJl5lWNfM&feature=youtu.be"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOJl5lWNfM&feature=youtu.be


This has a strong, and most likely very deliberate 2001: a Space Odyssey vibe...

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:52 PM

I still have all pre-release publicity set to IGNORE.

When I finally see this I'll truly be going in blind.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:58 PM

I thought the text is a little too obvious and clear (I like things to be more vague so that it can go in many directions), but then again, I suppose one shouldn't be too hard on 'virals'.


Will Fassbender be able to create a new unforgettable android like Ash, Roy Batty and Bishop?
"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:12 PM

I do like that it does look completely unlike anything related to the Aliens franchise. But...it's very Kubrick...

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:31 PM

Is it?

Alien is the visual the dark side of 2001.
"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:32 PM

Dunno, feels more like A.I.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:38 PM

The background have a futuristic 60's feel, and very sterile looking. As Alex indicated Alien is the opposite of 2001...

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:43 PM

Yes, we already know Scott thinks "used and grungy future" look isn't interesting anymore. He said that himself.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:11 PM

Dunno, feels more like A.I.

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There are several things in this well-done viral that made me think of A.I. The shot with the fingerprint comes out directly from the first A.I. trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML7Ci5TYp_M

But it also reminded me of this:



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Posted 18 April 2012 - 02:29 PM

I thought the text is a little too obvious and clear (I like things to be more vague so that it can go in many directions), but then again, I suppose one shouldn't be too hard on 'virals'.


Well it is supposed to be a sort of infomercial. So including hidden subtexts or being vague would perhaps not ring true.

I am sure there will be more to the character.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 02:43 PM

I understand, but since these infomercials are being used as appetizers for the film, I would make 'm slightly more intriguing. None of the virals make me want to see the actual movie.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:02 AM

One thing is clear, Michael Fassbender's android seems more 'primitive' than Ash or Bishop. You can tell he's an android.
"The film that really struck me was Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner.' That was a film I watched many, many times and found endlessly fascinating in its density. But I think the density of that film is primarily visual density and atmospheric and sound density, more so than narrative density. But, yeah, I think for a lot of filmmakers particularly, there will be a film like that in their past that they've really become a little obsessed with and seen too many times, or more times than seems healthy." - Christopher Nolan

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:12 AM

Does he dream of electric sheep, Alex?

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:12 PM

One thing is clear, Michael Fassbender's android seems more 'primitive' than Ash or Bishop. You can tell he's an android.


How can one tell this? Seriously. I don't see any androids in my daily life to use as a benchmark. Maybe one thinks he's just an Irish-German human playing a very calm and stolid individual with a deliberate way of speaking? It's once he sits down to play chess with himself or says things that set him aside from humans that I realize this.

I don't recall any way of discerning that Ash was an android until he went berserk, ruptured, and began spraying milk everywhere; then it became kinda obvious. I think Bishop was less secretive about admitting what he was.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:37 PM

When I first saw Michael Fessbender in X-Men First Class I immediately thought....he looks like an android.
If it isn't high concept the it's not worth watching believed the pseudo superior one.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:47 PM

When I first saw Michael Fessbender in X-Men First Class I immediately thought....he looks like an android.


I thought to myself "he'd make a good Terminator"

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:45 PM

New Prometheus trailer:



Those wishing to avoid spoilers may not want to watch, as it shows more than previous trailers have shown. Personally, I didn't find it to be too spoilerific, I still feel like there will be plenty of surprises when I see the film.

I really like the LOOK of this film. Its some kind of cool blend of 70s and today. Its different from anything else coming out - could be influential.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:49 PM

it does look well, it will look even better on blu
If it isn't high concept the it's not worth watching believed the pseudo superior one.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:58 PM

Better than the theater??

Or do you just mean better than youtube?

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:00 PM

I don't know, Jay... It eminds me of when I first watched the first Superman Returns teaser, for some reason. Looked awesome, but then it turned out... that was all there was. It's just this strange feeling this movie is not all it promises.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:23 PM

Better than the theater??

Or do you just mean better than youtube?

yes

often blu's look better on good set than they do on a large screen.
If it isn't high concept the it's not worth watching believed the pseudo superior one.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:25 AM


One thing is clear, Michael Fassbender's android seems more 'primitive' than Ash or Bishop. You can tell he's an android.


How can one tell this?


Because he's closer to Data than to the androids we know from the Alien universe. Of course, it could be the viral (infomercial), maybe he'll be more human in the film.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:40 AM


Double mediocre is still mediocre.

Well that was my first thought but I wasn't going to post something so negative. Good of you to relief me of the burden. I agree.

Scott got Harry to compose his best score with Kingdom Of Heaven. Only good can come from him working on Prometheus. I do find it odd though, because I recall Harry saying he hated Scott for taking out his music and putting in Goldsmith, seemed like he didn't want to work with him again.

I still have all pre-release publicity set to IGNORE.

When I finally see this I'll truly be going in blind.

I don't read or watch trailers anymore. I allow myself one trailer or a teaser, so I can get a feel of the film, and that's it. I'm conformable enough with my taste that I know what films I'll want to spend money on in a theater. Although with all the behind the scenes crap these days, it's hard to avoid information. I felt like I knew everything about The Dark Knight Rises based on article titles and pictures off news sites, a couple which actually put spoilers in the titles (how professional is that?). Luckily I've forgotten all of it. No prologue for me, just that first trailer and I'm good to go. With Prometheus I've only seen the first teaser. Don't know anything about the plot.


Better than the theater??

Or do you just mean better than youtube?

yes

often blu's look better on good set than they do on a large screen.

Weren't you the one who told me that nothing can beat a movie on the silver screen? ;)

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:58 PM

as far as the intitial movie going experience that will always hold true, but the picture quality can exceed the screen quality. However I doubt I will ever own a 70 by 40 foot screen, but if I ever win the lottery I'm going big at home.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:14 PM

Ugh; I just realized that the movie hits screens in Germany 2.5 months after its debut in France. What is the rationale for that? The French can't be so much faster with dubbing ;-) I truly hate dubbed versions by now, btw... they also seem to become ever more atrocious.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:17 PM



Double mediocre is still mediocre.

Well that was my first thought but I wasn't going to post something so negative. Good of you to relief me of the burden. I agree.

Scott got Harry to compose his best score with Kingdom Of Heaven. Only good can come from him working on Prometheus. I do find it odd though, because I recall Harry saying he hated Scott for taking out his music and putting in Goldsmith, seemed like he didn't want to work with him again.


Maybe that explains why Harry is only acting as an additional composer. I was always pretty confused by how Marc got the big job and Harry, the assistant (whereas the roles were reversed 7 years ago). Maybe what you mentioned explains it.

Also I'm not sure if this has been shared already, but here is a not so recent featurette:


As others have mentioned before me. I love the look of this film. And I really like the fantastic sets! Let's hope the film delivers.
 

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:24 PM

Ugh; I just realized that the movie hits screens in Germany 2.5 months after its debut in France. What is the rationale for that? The French can't be so much faster with dubbing ;-) I truly hate dubbed versions by now, btw... they also seem to become ever more atrocious.


Welcome to the club on both counts. :(

I read somewhere that football might be responsible of the delay of several films in Europe, but it doesn't make sense to me.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:41 PM

Avoiding any more spoilers about this film now! I know too much!

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:29 PM




Double mediocre is still mediocre.

Well that was my first thought but I wasn't going to post something so negative. Good of you to relief me of the burden. I agree.

Scott got Harry to compose his best score with Kingdom Of Heaven. Only good can come from him working on Prometheus. I do find it odd though, because I recall Harry saying he hated Scott for taking out his music and putting in Goldsmith, seemed like he didn't want to work with him again.


Maybe that explains why Harry is only acting as an additional composer. I was always pretty confused by how Marc got the big job and Harry, the assistant (whereas the roles were reversed 7 years ago). Maybe what you mentioned explains it.

Well Streitenfeld was always going to score this film. He did Ridley's last four. From what I understood, the reason that he became Ridley's go-to is because Harry didn't want to work again, or maybe Tony was just hogging him. Who knows?

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:31 PM

This short featurette shows some new footage:



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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:47 PM

I'm avoiding trailers and featurettes.

I read some comments by Scott relating to our relevance as a species and I'm under the impression that he wasn't sure what he was talking about.

I really hope this one doesn't go the "humans are of alien origin" route and scraps evolutionary Biology and Paleontology altogether.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:45 AM

I'm afraid it will go that way. What? The same alien race that created the xenomorph is also responsible for creating human kind? And am I to understand that the film is telling us that we, humans, are the ultimate biological weapon and not the aliens? What?!



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