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Posted 31 July 2009 - 10:28 PM

Goldenthal!


I just want more commissioned work by him :P :(
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Posted 31 July 2009 - 10:32 PM

Oh I can't wait to cream my boxers again seeing Sigourney in her panties again ;-)

I hope they make more use of Howard Hanson's Symphony No 2 this time round.
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 02:08 AM

Y'all keep saying the word "need" - "The movie doesn't NEED to be made" "We don't NEED to see the origins of the space jockey." Some of us WANT to know these things! If you really don't NEED to see the origin story of the Aliens, don't watch the movie! Pretend it doesn't exist in the cannon. Aliens and Predators are cinematic gold, they just have to be done right. Just because the last few films haven't been good doesn't mean a good filmmaker can't do wonders with it. "What else is there to do?" I don't know, use your imagination? If anyone can make a good Aliens film, it's Ridley Scott - he's done it before!

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 09:28 AM

I think this movie is rather an odd choice for a(nother) prequel. But hey, it's Ridley. At least it isn't JJ Abrams.

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 09:36 AM

Scott needs to work with Alberto Iglesias.

Alex, EVERYONE needs to work with Alberto Inglesias!!!!! This is an interseting post and one which I will follow regurlarly. My choice for composer would be either Eliot Goldenthal (what an absoultely superb score for "Alien3"?!), or, because he did a rather good job on "The Omen" (not to mention being tutored by you-know-who), Marco Beltrami. I really do think that Scott knows the pitfalls of doing a prequel, but if it is done well, and with integrety, I'm sure that it will make for a good, if not great, film. Scott has wanted to explore the Alien backstory for some time, and now it seems that he will get his wish. I wish him well.

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 10:04 AM

We already know the aliens' past adventures, the Yautja race exploit them for their own hunting games because they're thought of as "hard meat". Ridley shouldn't mess with comic canon.
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 10:37 AM

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 10:55 AM

I first saw Alien on Channel 10 in 1991 with lots of Master Card and Meet The Press ads in-between. I've still got it on tape.
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 10:55 AM


Scott needs to work with Alberto Iglesias.

Alex, EVERYONE needs to work with Alberto Inglesias!!!!! This is an interseting post and one which I will follow regurlarly. My choice for composer would be either Eliot Goldenthal (what an absoultely superb score for "Alien3"?!), or, because he did a rather good job on "The Omen" (not to mention being tutored by you-know-who), Marco Beltrami. I really do think that Scott knows the pitfalls of doing a prequel, but if it is done well, and with integrety, I'm sure that it will make for a good, if not great, film. Scott has wanted to explore the Alien backstory for some time, and now it seems that he will get his wish. I wish him well.


I respect Goldenthal as a composer but I feel his score to Alien3 was over the top. The music wanted to be as scary aurally as the alien was visually, if not more so. Because Goldenthal wanted to personify the horror of the beast, the music started to rival with the monster for the same space. I'm not sure whether 'scary' plus 'scary' equals 'twice as scary'. I know I was paying way too much attention to the score than was necessary. The reason why I mentioned Alberto Iglesias is that I think he can be a silent partner to Scott. Someone who is there but you don't really notice him. At least, that is precisely what Ridley Scott has accomplished with the first film and I wouldn't mind if he went for the same approach. (Of course, I still think Scott saying "yes" doesn't mean it will happen)



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Posted 01 August 2009 - 05:12 PM

Considering Iglesias is kinda typecast, I doubt he will score Alien 0.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 01 August 2009 - 05:39 PM

I think this movie is rather an odd choice for a(nother) prequel. But hey, it's Ridley. At least it isn't JJ Abrams.


I'd watch a JJA Alien movie. At least it'd have characters.

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 05:41 PM

And an awesome score.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 01 August 2009 - 06:00 PM

Giacchino on Alien? I hope he wouldn't pay tribute to the first three. Brian Tyler's outing was awful enough in this regard.

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 06:03 PM


I think this movie is rather an odd choice for a(nother) prequel. But hey, it's Ridley. At least it isn't JJ Abrams.


I'd watch a JJA Alien movie. At least it'd have characters.


No real or memorable characters in Cloverfield. And if Star Trek is your idea of a film with strong characters, then you must be Marian Schedenig ... Oh wait!
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 06:19 PM

Photographic evidence that the Alien xenomorphs visited the Planet Vulcan

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 06:25 PM

Didn't Klingons visit LV-426?

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 06:58 PM

Me thinks it was those pesky Predators
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 09:40 PM

If Scott makes this film, I'm willing to bet Zimmer will end up being the composer.

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 07:09 AM

After which Rigley will use most of the music from Zimmer's DRIVING MISS DAISY ;)
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Posted 02 August 2009 - 12:38 PM

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 02:41 PM



I think this movie is rather an odd choice for a(nother) prequel. But hey, it's Ridley. At least it isn't JJ Abrams.


I'd watch a JJA Alien movie. At least it'd have characters.


No real or memorable characters in Cloverfield.


That's just a JJA production ;)
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Posted 03 August 2009 - 02:51 PM

If Scott makes this film, I'm willing to bet Zimmer will end up being the composer.

I'm already begining to vomit at the thought of Zimmer completely ballsing up the "Alien" prequel! If any composer could suck the living soul out of a perfectly good film, it's Zimmer. The sooner he retires, the beter.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 05:25 PM

"Ballsing" up? Alien is not an action film mind you. Zimmer knows how to score thrillers/dramas.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 03 August 2009 - 07:07 PM

Have the Star Wars prequels taught us nothing?

I mean, let's face it, guys, we're far better off with the SW prequels, ain't we?! They gave us three brand new JW scores! :P :D


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Posted 03 August 2009 - 07:10 PM

Perhaps Scott will drag out the ole Freud score again.

Or maybe this time he'll actually use Goldsmith's music from Alien. Or maybe he'll just cobble bits from all 4 Alien scores.




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Posted 03 August 2009 - 07:12 PM

Or maybe this time he'll actually use Goldsmith's music from Alien. Or maybe he'll just cobble bits from all 4 Alien scores.

That's a good point! :D


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Posted 05 May 2010 - 07:40 AM

Ridley Scott Confirms ALIEN Prequel Will Be Shot in 3D and He Wants to Make 2 Prequels!


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Posted 05 May 2010 - 07:54 AM

Can't wait. I've been waiting for this since I first saw ALIEN in 1988. As much as I love ALIENS, the whole ant/bee lifecycle thing really took away a lot of the alien's power for me, but since it's canon it'll be interesting to see how Ridley works with it. Interested to see if he'll really visualize the Space Jockey - as an individual or a race - as he was talking about doing.
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Posted 05 May 2010 - 08:20 AM

Interested to see if he'll really visualize the Space Jockey - as an individual or a race - as he was talking about doing.


I think they are going to be a variation on the Na'vi but with advanced technology.


So, Charles, you're all for demystifying the first film?




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Posted 05 May 2010 - 08:37 AM


Interested to see if he'll really visualize the Space Jockey - as an individual or a race - as he was talking about doing.


I think they are going to be a variation on the Na'vi but with advanced technology.


So, Charles, you're all for demystifying the first film?




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Yeah. If it was anyone but Ridley, I probably wouldn't be. But the franchise has gotten to a ridiculous point already, so I'd like to see something that has always intrigued me (since the days of the brilliant initial Dark Horse Comics run of ALIENS). And it's just nice to see Ridley return to SF, really.

I'm not sure it can take away much from the first film for me anyway (I've already learned to ignore that kind of thing with the prequels). Even if it sucks, that movie is still absolute greatness. Even if the lights on the bottom of the Nostromo are still wonky.

Besides, it's going to be made so I can either cry foul or look forward to it. I choose to look forward to it.
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Posted 01 October 2010 - 08:41 AM

Scott's Alien prequel in problems?

Ridley Scott is at odds with 20th Century Fox, the major studios behind the project over budgetary and creative differences, according to sources close to the production. It would seem Scott wants a budget of around $250m to make it a sci-fi spectacular, and is also pushing for an 18-rated level of violence and horror. Fox, however, don’t plan on investing anywhere near that sum, and are keen to get a 15 rating to maximise the audience appeal.

Scott and Fox clash





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Posted 01 October 2010 - 08:52 AM

So Fox were hoping for AvP3 made by an A-list director. What a surprise.

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Posted 11 November 2010 - 08:23 AM

Production Next Alien Has Probably Started
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Posted 11 November 2010 - 10:05 AM

So, any word on whether or not Scott got his own way in the end with the execs on this?

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Posted 11 November 2010 - 10:19 AM

Nah, he hasn't got the fight in him.
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Posted 11 November 2010 - 11:21 AM

The studio wants a PG-13 movie and that's what they'll get. No nudity, no ultraviolence, no Dallas.
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Posted 11 November 2010 - 02:42 PM

Don't worry. There'll be an extended Director's Cut.

In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.


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Posted 11 November 2010 - 03:16 PM

They'll probably say fuck a few times in it.

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Posted 11 November 2010 - 03:30 PM

Ugh I hate it when they do this to movies like this. They did it for Die Hard 4 and botched John's famous end line "Yippee Ki-Yay Mother Fucker!" to me it was totally unnecessary to botch that famous line like that. It became the only Die Hard movie to have a PG-13 rating.
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Posted 11 November 2010 - 03:33 PM

They did the same thing when they gave The Blues Brothers, an R movie, a sequel 18 years later that was significantly toned down to be rated PG-13.

@Wojo: stop being facetious.





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