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So Ridley Scott is directing an Alien prequel... (The official Prometheus Thread)
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:33 PM
I'm continually intrigued by the film, everything I see/read hypes me more
I almost want to stop watching/reading anything so i don't get spoiled
I almost want to stop watching/reading anything so i don't get spoiled
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"I get asked all the time, 'What happens after Return of the Jedi?,' and there really is no answer for that. The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that's where that story ends."
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 06:11 AM
Ridley Scott Promises Prometheus Theatrical Release Will be His Director's Cut
“The cut that you’re gonna see in cinemas…it’s always the director’s cut, really,” Scott exclaimed before chatting up on the film’s run time. “I’ve only made a mistake once on cutting a film short — I won’t say what it is right now, because this is not the time — but I removed 17 minutes off a movie, and I didn’t ruin it, but it wasn’t [as effective]. In this instance, you got a pretty good version here, pretty good cut. We’re running at about — I think without the end titles, which normally run about four to five minutes — we’re running one hour, fifty-nine minutes and change. It’s very tight, it’s what it should be.”
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:00 PM
Repeat the JWFan pledge after me: 'I hereby recognise John Towner Williams' place in the world as the great composer there has ever been, and I therefore renounce the works of Rozsa, Korngold, Herrmann, Horner, Kamen, Giacchino (unless the prophecy is fulfilled and he becomes the heir to JTW) and Goldsmith, especially Goldsmith. I understand that if I ever refer to Jurassic Park as anything less than "a masterpiece sixty-five million years in the making" I will be resigned to living out my days at the Zimmershrine.'
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:39 PM
Michael Fassbender was brilliantly cast in this.
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 02:58 PM
That was awesome!
Yeah, same here. I'm getting to that point where I'm afraid I'm going to spoil something....but it's hard not to read things about this movie. Can't wait to see it.
I'm continually intrigued by the film, everything I see/read hypes me more
I almost want to stop watching/reading anything so i don't get spoiled
Yeah, same here. I'm getting to that point where I'm afraid I'm going to spoil something....but it's hard not to read things about this movie. Can't wait to see it.
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:45 PM
This has a strong, and most likely very deliberate 2001: a Space Odyssey vibe...
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:52 PM
I still have all pre-release publicity set to IGNORE.
When I finally see this I'll truly be going in blind.
When I finally see this I'll truly be going in blind.
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:58 PM
I thought the text is a little too obvious and clear (I like things to be more vague so that it can go in many directions), but then again, I suppose one shouldn't be too hard on 'virals'.
Will Fassbender be able to create a new unforgettable android like Ash, Roy Batty and Bishop?
Will Fassbender be able to create a new unforgettable android like Ash, Roy Batty and Bishop?
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:12 PM
I do like that it does look completely unlike anything related to the Aliens franchise. But...it's very Kubrick...
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:31 PM
Is it?
Alien is the visual the dark side of 2001.
Alien is the visual the dark side of 2001.
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:32 PM
Dunno, feels more like A.I.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:38 PM
The background have a futuristic 60's feel, and very sterile looking. As Alex indicated Alien is the opposite of 2001...
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:43 PM
Yes, we already know Scott thinks "used and grungy future" look isn't interesting anymore. He said that himself.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:11 PM
Dunno, feels more like A.I.
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There are several things in this well-done viral that made me think of A.I. The shot with the fingerprint comes out directly from the first A.I. trailer:
But it also reminded me of this:
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 02:29 PM
I thought the text is a little too obvious and clear (I like things to be more vague so that it can go in many directions), but then again, I suppose one shouldn't be too hard on 'virals'.
Well it is supposed to be a sort of infomercial. So including hidden subtexts or being vague would perhaps not ring true.
I am sure there will be more to the character.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 02:43 PM
I understand, but since these infomercials are being used as appetizers for the film, I would make 'm slightly more intriguing. None of the virals make me want to see the actual movie.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:02 AM
One thing is clear, Michael Fassbender's android seems more 'primitive' than Ash or Bishop. You can tell he's an android.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:12 AM
Does he dream of electric sheep, Alex?
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:12 PM
One thing is clear, Michael Fassbender's android seems more 'primitive' than Ash or Bishop. You can tell he's an android.
How can one tell this? Seriously. I don't see any androids in my daily life to use as a benchmark. Maybe one thinks he's just an Irish-German human playing a very calm and stolid individual with a deliberate way of speaking? It's once he sits down to play chess with himself or says things that set him aside from humans that I realize this.
I don't recall any way of discerning that Ash was an android until he went berserk, ruptured, and began spraying milk everywhere; then it became kinda obvious. I think Bishop was less secretive about admitting what he was.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:37 PM
When I first saw Michael Fessbender in X-Men First Class I immediately thought....he looks like an android.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:47 PM
When I first saw Michael Fessbender in X-Men First Class I immediately thought....he looks like an android.
I thought to myself "he'd make a good Terminator"
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:45 PM
New Prometheus trailer:
Those wishing to avoid spoilers may not want to watch, as it shows more than previous trailers have shown. Personally, I didn't find it to be too spoilerific, I still feel like there will be plenty of surprises when I see the film.
I really like the LOOK of this film. Its some kind of cool blend of 70s and today. Its different from anything else coming out - could be influential.
Those wishing to avoid spoilers may not want to watch, as it shows more than previous trailers have shown. Personally, I didn't find it to be too spoilerific, I still feel like there will be plenty of surprises when I see the film.
I really like the LOOK of this film. Its some kind of cool blend of 70s and today. Its different from anything else coming out - could be influential.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:49 PM
it does look well, it will look even better on blu
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:58 PM
Better than the theater??
Or do you just mean better than youtube?
Or do you just mean better than youtube?
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:00 PM
I don't know, Jay... It eminds me of when I first watched the first Superman Returns teaser, for some reason. Looked awesome, but then it turned out... that was all there was. It's just this strange feeling this movie is not all it promises.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:23 PM
yesBetter than the theater??
Or do you just mean better than youtube?
often blu's look better on good set than they do on a large screen.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:25 AM
One thing is clear, Michael Fassbender's android seems more 'primitive' than Ash or Bishop. You can tell he's an android.
How can one tell this?
Because he's closer to Data than to the androids we know from the Alien universe. Of course, it could be the viral (infomercial), maybe he'll be more human in the film.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:40 AM
Scott got Harry to compose his best score with Kingdom Of Heaven. Only good can come from him working on Prometheus. I do find it odd though, because I recall Harry saying he hated Scott for taking out his music and putting in Goldsmith, seemed like he didn't want to work with him again.Well that was my first thought but I wasn't going to post something so negative. Good of you to relief me of the burden. I agree.
Double mediocre is still mediocre.
I don't read or watch trailers anymore. I allow myself one trailer or a teaser, so I can get a feel of the film, and that's it. I'm conformable enough with my taste that I know what films I'll want to spend money on in a theater. Although with all the behind the scenes crap these days, it's hard to avoid information. I felt like I knew everything about The Dark Knight Rises based on article titles and pictures off news sites, a couple which actually put spoilers in the titles (how professional is that?). Luckily I've forgotten all of it. No prologue for me, just that first trailer and I'm good to go. With Prometheus I've only seen the first teaser. Don't know anything about the plot.I still have all pre-release publicity set to IGNORE.
When I finally see this I'll truly be going in blind.
Weren't you the one who told me that nothing can beat a movie on the silver screen?yes
Better than the theater??
Or do you just mean better than youtube?
often blu's look better on good set than they do on a large screen.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:58 PM
as far as the intitial movie going experience that will always hold true, but the picture quality can exceed the screen quality. However I doubt I will ever own a 70 by 40 foot screen, but if I ever win the lottery I'm going big at home.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:14 PM
Ugh; I just realized that the movie hits screens in Germany 2.5 months after its debut in France. What is the rationale for that? The French can't be so much faster with dubbing ;-) I truly hate dubbed versions by now, btw... they also seem to become ever more atrocious.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:17 PM
Scott got Harry to compose his best score with Kingdom Of Heaven. Only good can come from him working on Prometheus. I do find it odd though, because I recall Harry saying he hated Scott for taking out his music and putting in Goldsmith, seemed like he didn't want to work with him again.
Well that was my first thought but I wasn't going to post something so negative. Good of you to relief me of the burden. I agree.
Double mediocre is still mediocre.
Maybe that explains why Harry is only acting as an additional composer. I was always pretty confused by how Marc got the big job and Harry, the assistant (whereas the roles were reversed 7 years ago). Maybe what you mentioned explains it.
Also I'm not sure if this has been shared already, but here is a not so recent featurette:
As others have mentioned before me. I love the look of this film. And I really like the fantastic sets! Let's hope the film delivers.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:24 PM
Ugh; I just realized that the movie hits screens in Germany 2.5 months after its debut in France. What is the rationale for that? The French can't be so much faster with dubbing ;-) I truly hate dubbed versions by now, btw... they also seem to become ever more atrocious.
Welcome to the club on both counts.
I read somewhere that football might be responsible of the delay of several films in Europe, but it doesn't make sense to me.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:41 PM
Avoiding any more spoilers about this film now! I know too much!
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:29 PM
Well Streitenfeld was always going to score this film. He did Ridley's last four. From what I understood, the reason that he became Ridley's go-to is because Harry didn't want to work again, or maybe Tony was just hogging him. Who knows?
Scott got Harry to compose his best score with Kingdom Of Heaven. Only good can come from him working on Prometheus. I do find it odd though, because I recall Harry saying he hated Scott for taking out his music and putting in Goldsmith, seemed like he didn't want to work with him again.
Well that was my first thought but I wasn't going to post something so negative. Good of you to relief me of the burden. I agree.
Double mediocre is still mediocre.
Maybe that explains why Harry is only acting as an additional composer. I was always pretty confused by how Marc got the big job and Harry, the assistant (whereas the roles were reversed 7 years ago). Maybe what you mentioned explains it.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:31 PM
This short featurette shows some new footage:
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
- Christopher Nolan
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Chaac
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:47 PM
I'm avoiding trailers and featurettes.
I read some comments by Scott relating to our relevance as a species and I'm under the impression that he wasn't sure what he was talking about.
I really hope this one doesn't go the "humans are of alien origin" route and scraps evolutionary Biology and Paleontology altogether.
I read some comments by Scott relating to our relevance as a species and I'm under the impression that he wasn't sure what he was talking about.
I really hope this one doesn't go the "humans are of alien origin" route and scraps evolutionary Biology and Paleontology altogether.
Izena duen guztia omen da.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:45 AM
I'm afraid it will go that way. What? The same alien race that created the xenomorph is also responsible for creating human kind? And am I to understand that the film is telling us that we, humans, are the ultimate biological weapon and not the aliens? What?!
We're home. What a beautiful planet. It's blue.
We're home. What a beautiful planet. It's blue.
Pictures, visual images, are far better to achieve that end than any words, particularly now, when the world has lost all mystery and magic and speech has become mere chatter, empty of meaning - Andrei Tarkovsky
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