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Posted 16 May 2012 - 04:41 PM

Hearing the whole Prometheus album, I'll just say that I wasn't too impressed. Having said that, I thought it was atmospheric enough, with some quick intense bits, to work well in the film, I am sure. It didn't sound too much like Alien, actually more like Alien 3 at times. Definitely not a bad score, and even had a couple wondrous bits of it's own that seemed loosely inspired by Alien. I did have a big grin spread across my face when "A friend from the past" played. It made me long to have had Goldsmith been able to do the music for this film. If he were still alive, I wonder if Ridley would have asked him? In a way, I am kind of glad he didn't, though. Part of the cool thing of the Alien franchise is that each film had a different composer, giving the films it's own identity and variety, with occasional references to Alien and Aliens in subsequent scores.

But hey, you never know. Maybe Ridley will have a crazy moment while editing the film and decide to track 90% of the it with Goldsmith's Alien score and replace this one. ;)
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 05:49 PM

Part of the cool thing of the Alien franchise is that each film had a different composer, giving the films it's own identity and variety, with occasional references to Alien and Aliens in subsequent scores.

But hey, you never know. Maybe Ridley will have a crazy moment while editing the film and decide to track 90% of the it with Goldsmith's Alien score and replace this one. ;)


Yeah, it's really cool to hear each composer's unique voice within the Alien Franchise. I think all four alien films have fantastic scores. Sad to see that Prometheus' score doesn't live up to the same quality, but I didn't really expect it to.

I wonder who the "friend from the past" is....

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:07 PM

As was predicted, the Prometheus score is underwhelming. No "Robin Hood is great!" type comments was going to change this.

I like some bits like the last track of the CD.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:16 PM

I've liked some cues, but the rest is awful. In my opinion, it's a bit noisy.
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:31 PM

As was predicted, the Prometheus score is underwhelming. No "Robin Hood is great!" type comments was going to change this.

I like some bits like the last track of the CD.

There are some bits and pieces that sound nice, but, so far, it's kind of not really gripping.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:09 PM

Which tracks are by Harry Gregson-Williams? Life, is one, I think. I assume the ones with his theme like We Were Right and Earth.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 09:54 PM

According the tracklist, Life and We Were Right were composed by Harry Gregson-Williams. Earth just contains the theme.
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 11:04 PM

But then that is written too by HGW because he stepped in after Streitenfeld.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 11:47 PM

I guess so. But I don't think the score contains two or three cues composed by HGW.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:51 AM

New international poster:

http://www.comicbook...s/news/?a=59892


Not exactly the minimalistic approach from the original poster of Alien, is it?
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:52 AM

Certainly not very alien like

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:56 AM

Didn't I tell you not to play with the self-destruct button, David!
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:59 AM

Oh you clumsy little android!

But it's OK, you were programmed that way...

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 12:03 PM

This looks more like an adventure film.

Like At the Mountains of Ma... oh.

I guess so. But I don't think the score contains two or three cues composed by HGW.


I don't think another composer stepped in and used HGW's theme. Unless we're being hidden something. Mmm.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:24 PM

It may not be very Alien, but I LOVE that poster! Actually looks like a hand painted poster and not a 10 minute photoshop job that we're so used to seeing these days.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:26 PM

It's kind of spoilery...

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:31 PM

Well, what's shown in that poster has been pretty heavily eluded to right from the very first teaser trailer. I'm left wondering, given how well they've kept the majority of the plot under wraps, just how significant that event actually is to the story.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:32 PM

It looks like SPACE AVENGERS OF THE THIRD DIMENSION. Certainly not in any way like an atmospheric horror movie, which seems to be the point.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:32 PM

Check out the poster of the actual ship. It even has the Weyland logo, and a little slogan: "50 years of building better worlds". Cool.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:26 PM

Weyland Industries and Tyrell Corporation should work together!
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:28 PM

Roy Batty versus Ash, Bishop and David!

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:42 PM

David is the first one to go. Roy Batty wins. He's made for that kind of sh!t.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:49 PM

3 weeks......

I can feel it in my chest.....
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:53 PM

Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtime gal...

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 03:40 PM

I'll have the special ...
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 06:13 PM

Well, someone HAS to post it now...


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Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:10 PM

So is the score's problem that it sounds like it did back in that old debut trailer (the one which I said sounded shit at the time), or is this something else entirely? I haven't heard any of the the ost yet.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:13 PM

The good thing about the score is that it does sound like they're actually trying.

The bad thing about the score is that it's unable to get up there. Even with two composers and a Goldsmith theme.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:17 PM

That's what she said.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:17 PM

Yeah, pretty much.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:42 PM


I guess so. But I don't think the score contains two or three cues composed by HGW.


I don't think another composer stepped in and used HGW's theme. Unless we're being hidden something. Mmm.


There is an additional arranger. That explains everything. isn't it?
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 02:34 PM

I'm reading a lot of disappointed people in French tweets.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 02:35 PM

Why are you reading French tweets? Are Spanish tweets that boring?

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 02:59 PM

I'm going to see it on Thursday night. My expectations are quite low.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:08 PM

Because of the tweets?

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:12 PM

The French tweets or the Polish tweets? I'm confused...

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:17 PM

Because of the tweets?

No. I just can't imagine it being any good. Remember it's a prequel (of sorts) to one of the most beloved s-f films of all time done by the same director. It just can't work. The expectations are too high.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:24 PM

What are the tweets saying?
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:26 PM

Here are some translated ones.

The consensus is that it is ok and nothing special.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:54 PM

Just "okay" is pretty disappointing, isn't it? Most of Scott's movies are just okay.
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