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[crocodile]

My point exactly.

I'll tell you when I get see it in three days. Bought a ticket already.

Karol

[Chaac]

My anticipation is going doooown....

[Quint]

Was this ever going to be truly great?

I'm still very much looking forward to it.

[crocodile]

No, you're probably right.

Don't get me wrong. I'd like the film to be good. They got my money already.

We'll see. It's 3 days and 5 minutes.

Karol

[Pasi Tiitinen]

Just "okay" is pretty disappointing, isn't it? Most of Scott's movies are just okay.

I think most of his movies are more than just ok, many of them are brilliant.

Comparing today's output, I love Ridley's movies.

[Quint]

Hey, I enjoyed Robin Hood. Daft entertainment is good entertainment.

[Pasi Tiitinen]

Oh have totally missed Robin Hood, it must be terrible.

[crocodile]

The problem with Ridley Scott is dthat he's still a terrific filmmaker and visualist, but he just doesn't seem to connect with the material or care about what he's doing. His films are now more products. And while mostly a waste of talent, they're still very watchable.

Karol - who kind of liked Robin Hood

[Alexcremers]

I don't find many of his films visually appealing either ... Yes, I can drool over his first three or four movies (including the most part of Legend, I guess) but that's it. His other films, I can't explain it but, there's a certain degree of Tony Scott in there, especially noticeable in Black Hawk Down. Also, I don't see the whole world referencing to Body Of Lies like they do to Alien or Blade Runner. There's something more mundane and less artistic about them. Photography and look took on the primary role in his first films. They are obsessive, bordering on fetishism. If you look at lists like the one from American Cinematographer (50 best shot modern films), you'll find films like Blade Runner or The Duellist but not his 'other' movies.

I think most of his movies are more than just ok, many of them are brilliant.

Sure, sure, sure.

[Quint]

You are obsessed with your lists!

[Koray Savas]

I have no problems with Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, Hannibal, Body Of Lies, Matchstick Men or A Good Year.

Matchstick Men probably being his most underrated film, one that nobody talks about. One of the very few great Nick Cage performances, and a great score by Zimmer.

[Alexcremers]

You are obsessed with your lists!

Since I was talking about Scott's visual accomplishments, I thought it would be nice to refer to that particular list. I admit, it's nice to know that some of my favorite visual feasts are on a poll run by a specialized magazine that is read by mostly professional and amateur filmmakers and that solely focuses on the art and craft of cinematography. I was even surprised that a relatively small film like The Duellists made it to the first 50. That would never happen with ordinary popular polls. Note that the list I'm referring to only includes modern movies made before 2008, for that's when the poll was held.

Alex

[Jason LeBlanc]

I have no problems with Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, Hannibal, Body Of Lies, Matchstick Men or A Good Year.

Matchstick Men probably being his most underrated film, one that nobody talks about. One of the very few great Nick Cage performances, and a great score by Zimmer.

Yea Matchstick Men is a good little flick!

[Alexcremers]

The French review says it's visually of the same level of Alien and Blade Runner and that Scott must've remembered why these two movies are responsible for most of his glory. Wow! Fassbender is amazing. Rapace is good. Other actors are functional but don't evoke any feelings in the viewer. Film is more about thought and reflection like Blade Runner than it's about terror/horror. Sounds pretty good if the French like it, no?

[Quint]

I don't really get the "disappointing" thing about the Tweets anyway. I saw many positive contributions when I had a quick look.

Those coming away disappointed were possibly expecting another Aliens.

[Chaac]

Film is more about thought and reflection like Blade Runner than it's about terror/horror. Sounds pretty good if the French like it, no?

I sort of wanted/expected the film to be quite different to Alien in that sense. That way there could be a better contrast between this, Alien and Aliens.

What I'm afraid is that there'll be nothing new to the film, science-fiction wise.

[Alexcremers]

I don't really get the "disappointing" thing about the Tweets anyway. I saw many positive contributions when I had a quick look.

Those coming away disappointed were possibly expecting another Aliens.

I think they expect horror and that they will shit in their pants but that the film isn't about that at all. The trailer might be deceiving like the trailer of Blade Runner was.

[BloodBoal]

I don't really get the "disappointing" thing about the Tweets anyway. I saw many positive contributions when I had a quick look.

Those coming away disappointed were possibly expecting another Aliens.

I think they expect horror and that they will shit in their pants but that the film isn't about that at all. The trailer might be deceiving like the trailer of Blade Runner was.

The trailer of Blade Runner didn't show people screaming every two damn seconds.

[Wojo]

I was going to say something about Blade Runner not being scary because robots that are perfect copies of people don't exist in real life (yet, that we know of, blah blah blah) for us to be scared of, but then I would have to ask why Alien is scary, too.

[Romão]

Were the replicants robots? I've always though they were genetically engineered human beings. Nothing about them seemed to be mechanical

[Chaac]

I think they're engineered, flesh human beings. Maybe with some mechanical part where it fits.

[Stefancos]

Organic tissue over metalic exo-skeleton!

[Wojo]

Goddamnit, robots, artificial people, androids, who cares what hocus pocus term I used, you all missed the point.

[Stefancos]

Stop right where you are! You know the score, pal. If you're not a JWFAN, you're little people.

"If we don't stop it, we won't have a home to go back to!"

A line from the trailer playing on TV.

Really cliched.

[Chaac]

Goddamnit, robots, artificial people, androids, who cares what hocus pocus term I used, you all missed the point.

I didn't!

And it's an important detail because we already can build bladders, kidneys, skin and bones. It could be prophetic.

Organic tissue over metalic exo-skeleton!

Then it isn't an exo-skeleton!

[Wojo]

Organic tissue over metalic exo-skeleton!

Then it isn't an exo-skeleton!

Egads, you're right! Congrats for being an even more careful reader than the first group.

Put anything over an exoskeleton and the exo goes endo.

A classic Terminator is organic tissue over a metal endo-skeleton, and the organic tissue is not absolutely required to function. It is added to blend in with humans, making it part of the overall mission and thus, it's on the system requirements.

But it's insanely easy to detect a Terminator: either own a dog or be named Sarah Connor.

If it were that easy to detect a Replicant, then the blade runner division of the LAPD would be out of a job.

[Alexcremers]

Read another review and it's says, Forget what you've heard, forget what you've read, this is 100% an Alien prequel!

[Stefancos]

The trailer looks more like an Aliens prequel!

[OneBuckFilms]

Replicants are generically engineered humanoid forms.

The fact that there are "Genetic Designers" tells us this.

[Alexcremers]

The trailer looks more like an Aliens prequel!

First half is creepy and great (with 3D that is used properly). Second half of the film is more geared towards spectacle. Sigh! But I guess the trailer told us that too. Narrative is uneven. Cast is good but Fassbender steals the show. Film (production design) looks incredible. Reviewer does reward Prometheus by giving the film 4 stars out of 5.

I guess my predictions were right . A fine ride but not in the same league as Alien or Blade Runner (which is not so difficult to predict, of course).

[Stefancos]

I didn not see the trailer in the cinema, I was referring to the TV spot that was playing here. And that line.""If we don't stop it, we won't have a home to go back to!" sounds like Cameron wrote it.

[Alexcremers]

Yeah, that's a cheesy line ... unless it's spoken by Davy the robot. His delivery of the line might make up for the cheese factor. Fingers crossed!

[Stefancos]

I think it was the brunette.

[Alexcremers]

I prefer: "Then we're stupid and we will die!"

[Quint]

The trailer looks more like an Aliens prequel!

First half is creepy and great (with 3D that is used properly). Second half of the film is more geared towards spectacle. Sigh! But I guess the trailer told us that too. Narrative is uneven. Cast is good but Fassbender steals the show. Film (production design) looks incredible. Reviewer does reward Prometheus by giving the film 4 stars out of 5.

I guess my predictions were right . A fine ride but not in the same league as Alien or Blade Runner (which is not so difficult to predict, of course).

Alex, there's no way you are going to be anything other than disappointed with this movie. I mean, is there much you HAVEN'T read or seen of it? Right from the beginning I think you spoiled it for yourself - indeed any chances of you being pleasantly surprised must extremely minimal.

Lee - who badly misses the purer cinematic outings of pre-internet times.

[paleo]

Darn, I may end up going to Strasbourg for some cross-border movie tourism. I'd still like to know why we have to wait 3(!) months longer than the French.

[Alexcremers]

Alex, there's no way you are going to be anything other than disappointed with this movie. I mean, is there much you HAVEN'T read or seen of it? Right from the beginning I think you spoiled it for yourself - indeed any chances of you being pleasantly surprised must extremely minimal.

Actually, I know almost nothing about it. I saw the teaser, that's all. Heck, I didn't even know about that "quote" Steef keeps mentioning everywhere. I have no idea why you are talking like this to me. I know what I'm doing, how far I can go, and so on and so forth.

[Quint]

Hmm, okay. Maybe I'm wrong. It just seems like you know everything there is to possibly know about the movie before actually seeing it - as far as the pre-release hype train goes. Your choice of course, but I just know from experience that that tact ends in tears.

[Richard]

Hmm, okay. Maybe I'm wrong. It just seems like you know everything there is to possibly know the movie before actually seeing it - as far a the pre-release hype train goes. Your choice of course, but I just know from experience that that tact ends in tears.

Ha! I know that feeling, Qiunt! I "researched" "ROTJ" very thoroughly before seeing the film. I even read the novelization. Boy, was I dissapointed in the finished product.

[Alexcremers]

I didn't know anything about ROTJ and I cried anyway.