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#1761 Delorean90

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 07:33 PM

Indeed, and I find all of the speculation and investigation into the mysteries and ambiguities of the film quite a bit of fun, really.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 07:41 PM

One less mystery spelled out loud and clear here: http://www.totalfilm...name=0&ns_fee=0 *Spoilers*

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 07:45 PM

To be perfectly honest, it sounded more like "Fuck you, asswhore" to me.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 09:25 PM

I liked this film a lot. I think you just have to tune out the questions and enjoy it as an action/suspense film. Yeah, whatever, nothing made any sense. But it was really fun to watch. Great editing. I liked Streitenfield's score; it actually sounded a lot like Goldsmith's Alien. Lots of creepy effects and broad, spacey harmonies.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:44 AM

Prometheus Blu-ray details:

http://www.dreadcent...ls-uncovered-uk


Deleted scenes section: 40 minutes
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 10:17 AM

I recommend you rent it.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 11:18 AM

Good idea.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 11:26 AM

Prove it lol

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 01:31 PM

Prometheus Blu-ray details:

http://www.dreadcent...ls-uncovered-uk


Deleted scenes section: 40 minutes


That website says 35 minutes. Interestingly, it looks like the bulk of the deleted scenes (15 minutes) were from right at the end of the movie.

So what happened, did they scrap the idea of making a director's cut that has extra scenes integrated back in?
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 01:48 PM

It's going to be difficult to prove because I might rent it on digital TV (then I'm still going to see it HD, more or less). I believe Quint when he says that the problem with Prometheus is Lindelof. It actually makes perfect sense.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 01:59 PM

The only problem with Prometheus is the plot and script - the cinematography, set design, special effects (for the most part), etc were all top notch.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 02:01 PM

I dunno. Someone might wanna see a signed contract that you actually pay for digital TV, and didn't just install a splitter to mooch off your neighbor...
I suggest a full frontal assault with automated laser monkeys, scalpel mines, and acid.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 02:12 PM

The only problem with Prometheus is the plot and script - the cinematography, set design, special effects (for the most part), etc were all top notch.


What about the acting? Is it still low-key and underplayed like in Alien where they were like a bunch of factory workers straight out of a '70s documentary?
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 02:14 PM

Some of them were ok, some of them were annoying. A lot of them had to deliver stupid lines and follow stupid ideals but the actors did the best they could with the material

The film has a completely different tone than Alien cause its not a bunch of blue collar guys thrust into a situation they didn't want to be a part of, its a pack of scientists craving one thing or another from the planet. It really fails at everything it's trying to do except make you think about a few things and scare you in one brilliant suspense sequence
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 02:54 PM

There's very few redeeming features at play in Prometheus. The main theme is nice and the film looks technically very clean, but sadly poetically vacant, there's no tangible fabric to the framing, no detail beyond the shiny veneer. The movie is fading from consciousness fast.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 02:55 PM

Yup that about sums it up. Nothing sticks with you at all.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 04:01 PM

Which is sad to me...it could have been so interesting and "cool." I fairly liked the movie but so many things that bothered me. Jason's review back when the film came out pretty much summed up my thoughts about it.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 04:03 PM

Sweet!
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 11:52 AM

Are you guys coming from the stance of having seen the original Alien?

My brother and I have never seen any of the other films and we were both gripped by Prometheus. Just wondering if there's a franchise-expectation problem here, or if you just thought the film sucked.

There were definitely lots of plot holes, and one or two things weren't quite as effective as they could've been, but I came out very satisfied.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:51 PM

I wonder when I'm going to see this.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:12 PM

Of course I've seen the original Alien! Grew up watching it over and over again and recently watched the new Blu just before I saw Prometheus
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:05 PM

i re-watched alien yesterday.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:07 PM

It was asleep, you idiot!

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:09 PM

Yup, it was sleeping
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:47 PM

Of course I've seen the original Alien! Grew up watching it over and over again and recently watched the new Blu just before I saw Prometheus


What Rich meant is that people were going in and automatically comparing everything in it to Alien. I hadn't seen it for years prior, and enjoyed Prometheus a lot.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:54 PM

You enjoy almost every movie you see though :P
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:01 PM

Look who's talking!

But, yeah, it's true.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:02 PM

We've been through this. I watch good movies. You all watch shit ;)

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:03 PM

I find it interested that the first script writer Jon Spaihts is going to be on one of the commentaries since from what I understand they basically went in a different direction. I'm curious as to what elements they retained and I hope he's candid about what happened.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:07 PM

I'm sure it's going to be one of these ass-kissing commentaries: "We realized my approach was not the good one, so that Lindelof guy came and wrote a totally new script, which was way better than mine in pretty much every way. I am thankful Ridley & co decided to ignore my screenplay entirely. Blah blah blah...."

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:17 PM

Look who's talking!

But, yeah, it's true.


You're joking, right? These days I hate way more movies than I like. Hardly anyone's making good movies any more!

I gotta start contributing to the Last Film you Watched thread more, I watch a ton of films I don't mention here.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:17 PM

Something needs to be done, that's for sure. Not that I can talk.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 11:01 PM

I think I'm seeing this next Wednesday, I'll tell you what I think.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 02:33 AM

Are you guys coming from the stance of having seen the original Alien?

My brother and I have never seen any of the other films and we were both gripped by Prometheus. Just wondering if there's a franchise-expectation problem here, or if you just thought the film sucked.

There were definitely lots of plot holes, and one or two things weren't quite as effective as they could've been, but I came out very satisfied.


While I've seen the original Alien, my problems with Prometheus have nothing to do with that. I went into the movie knowing it would have a differny tone/ feel than alien...that's totally fine. And there were parts of the movie that did grip me and excite me and I felt like " sweet, this is going to be cool!" But then there were moments that totally took me out of that...characters doing things that defy logic....it was an experience of being sucked into the story and then taken out of it by things that made me think WTF???. And then the very last scene left a bad taste in my mouth.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:47 AM

Some of them were ok, some of them were annoying. A lot of them had to deliver stupid lines and follow stupid ideals but the actors did the best they could with the material

The film has a completely different tone than Alien cause its not a bunch of blue collar guys thrust into a situation they didn't want to be a part of, its a pack of scientists craving one thing or another from the planet. It really fails at everything it's trying to do except make you think about a few things and scare you in one brilliant suspense sequence


What I mean is that the acting and the registration of the characters in Alien is unusual natural. It wasn't dramatized in a Hollywood way. It didn't feel as if they were acting, which made the terror more real.

I wonder whose idea it was to go for natural performances. I've never seen it in any of Scott's other movies. It could be Dan O'Bannon was responsible for this.


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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:41 AM

It was asleep, you idiot!


Yup, it was sleeping


Seriously? Why? didnt he saw/felt Ripley in the vicinity? how come that a killing machine is so sloppy?
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:57 AM


Some of them were ok, some of them were annoying. A lot of them had to deliver stupid lines and follow stupid ideals but the actors did the best they could with the material

The film has a completely different tone than Alien cause its not a bunch of blue collar guys thrust into a situation they didn't want to be a part of, its a pack of scientists craving one thing or another from the planet. It really fails at everything it's trying to do except make you think about a few things and scare you in one brilliant suspense sequence


What I mean is that the acting and the registration of the characters in Alien is unusual natural. It wasn't dramatized in a Hollywood way. It didn't feel as if they were acting, which made the terror more real.

I wonder whose idea it was to go for natural performances. I've never seen it in any of Scott's other movies. It could be Dan O'Bannon was responsible for this.


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Prometheus has absolutely none of that.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:59 AM


Some of them were ok, some of them were annoying. A lot of them had to deliver stupid lines and follow stupid ideals but the actors did the best they could with the material

The film has a completely different tone than Alien cause its not a bunch of blue collar guys thrust into a situation they didn't want to be a part of, its a pack of scientists craving one thing or another from the planet. It really fails at everything it's trying to do except make you think about a few things and scare you in one brilliant suspense sequence


What I mean is that the acting and the registration of the characters in Alien is unusual natural. It wasn't dramatized in a Hollywood way. It didn't feel as if they were acting, which made the terror more real.


The recreation/dining scenes in Alien feel like they were directed by Mike Leigh. Prometheus is at the opposite end of the spectrum in that regard.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 03:49 PM

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:30 AM



Some of them were ok, some of them were annoying. A lot of them had to deliver stupid lines and follow stupid ideals but the actors did the best they could with the material

The film has a completely different tone than Alien cause its not a bunch of blue collar guys thrust into a situation they didn't want to be a part of, its a pack of scientists craving one thing or another from the planet. It really fails at everything it's trying to do except make you think about a few things and scare you in one brilliant suspense sequence


What I mean is that the acting and the registration of the characters in Alien is unusual natural. It wasn't dramatized in a Hollywood way. It didn't feel as if they were acting, which made the terror more real.


The recreation/dining scenes in Alien feel like they were directed by Mike Leigh. Prometheus is at the opposite end of the spectrum in that regard.


"Prometheus 2", starring Brenda Blethyn, Jim Broadbent, and Timothy Spall! Ha-ha!




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