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#401 Sandor

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:01 AM

Anal about spelling, like Ed Gein was.

Oh dear.


You seem to know a whole lot more about disturbing figures and what they might do in their cellars than I do..! Oh dear indeed... ;)
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:06 AM

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:08 AM

At this point the only reasons I'm interested in this film are:

-The score.
-The "volcano scene". I wonder how many things they'll screw up.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:11 AM

And the becoming of Vade...eeehhh Khan..

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:39 AM

Psssh.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:44 AM

No, I won't be quiet! I will scream it!

KHAAAAAAAAN!.....KHAAAAAAAN!!!

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 01:40 PM

It's deeply distrurbing


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:33 PM

principle photography is complete.

now come the lens flares and the mediocre Giacchino score.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 03:37 PM

The biggest voice talent in video games is cast in the new movie: http://www.eurogamer...ck-of-uncharted

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:34 PM

principle photography is complete.

now come the lens flares and the mediocre Giacchino score.



Aaaaaahhhhhh, mediocre??!?

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:36 PM

Very mediocre, actually.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:37 PM


principle photography is complete.

now come the lens flares and the mediocre Giacchino score.



Aaaaaahhhhhh, mediocre??!?

yes Ren his 2009 score to Star Trek was mediocre at best. It ranks in the bottom 3 or 4 of all the Star Trek film scores. It isn't exceptional. It could have been but it isn't. AS time goes on Giacchino is proving to be a broken clock,

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:39 PM

I agree it could have been better but all was not lost on it.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:40 PM

When there is so much great Star Trek music out there, I have no need to ever listen to that score.

I'm hoping the next movie will be better, or less stupid.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:47 PM

Hope? I have no hope for it.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:07 PM

Hope? I have no hope for it.

there is no reason for you not to.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:39 PM

I agree it could have been better but all was not lost on it.


It's my favorite film score of 2009, and my favorite Trek score after TMP and the Horners
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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:44 PM



principle photography is complete.

now come the lens flares and the mediocre Giacchino score.



Aaaaaahhhhhh, mediocre??!?

yes Ren his 2009 score to Star Trek was mediocre at best. It ranks in the bottom 3 or 4 of all the Star Trek film scores. It isn't exceptional. It could have been but it isn't. AS time goes on Giacchino is proving to be a broken clock,


Sshh, Oliverez could be lurking and you might upset him.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:21 PM


I agree it could have been better but all was not lost on it.


It's my favorite film score of 2009, and my favorite Trek score after TMP and the Horners


I prefer it to Up. And it's seriously goosebump inducing for me. I listened to it to death.

The theme is awesome live, and I love the tone of most of it in general. The adventurous development of Spock's theme in the end credits, the opening of Nero Sighted, etc etc... to me it has more personality than the Horners, but it's less solid.

Later I tried to assemble a completeish listen but the "errors" in the Deluxe edition annoyed me and I ended up loosing interest in it somehow.

John Carter is an example of what Giacchino might have tried to do in Star Trek but with more confidence and experience. I think the score for the new Star Trek could be like John Carter or better.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:40 PM

I actually enjoyed Giacchino's Star Trek a lot.

It's a lot better score than some here seem to paint it, IMHO.

Adventure, fun and heart.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 12:48 PM

Sshh, Oliverez could be lurking and you might upset him.


No, if you want to upset him, just call the score to Up elevator music. :whistle:

I like Giacchino's score to Star Trek. Is it on par with the classic Jerry and James Star Trek scores? No, but we knew that going in that time had put those scores so high up on the pedestal of nostalgic greatness that nothing could touch them. Hell, Jerry wrote a Star Trek score or two that don't deserve to eat at the same table as his others, but we don't sit and badmouth those scores left and right.

Take the "Star Trek" name away from Giacchino's score and it's still a solid action score with a catchy main theme -- I love themes that get major French horn action -- and a few other decent, noticeable ones.

I'd rather listen to Giacchino's Star Trek score over his Alias or Lost scores any day of the week...but that's only because I haven't listened to my Alias scores yet, and I don't own any Lost material.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 02:37 PM

Take the "Star Trek" name away from Giacchino's score and it's still a solid action score with a catchy main theme


THIS.

I don't own any Lost material.


Too bad, its his best work
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:12 PM

I can certainly vouch for lost, though I don't listen to it all that often. Great stuff though.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:19 PM

I actually enjoyed Giacchino's Star Trek a lot.

It's a lot better score than some here seem to paint it, IMHO.

Adventure, fun and heart.


I second this.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:29 PM

the music from Lost is absolutly uninteresting. Of course the show's ending totally ruined the entire show. what a waste of those years. Sometimes the destination does destroy the journey.

I state again the 2009 Star Trek score is mediocrity. It was a chance for the Next John Williams to hit a home run and all he could manage was a walk.

UP however is a grand slam Home Run, but he'll never equal that again. But that's okay because his ticket to heaven was punched, thought Star Trek assured him coach seating.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:38 PM

I love the music from Lost.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:40 PM

Joey, I get the feeling you're one of "those" people.

The kind of people that defines the caliber of score by the movie it's paired with.

Hook sucked, so you hate the score. I'll let KM ask why you're still at a John Williams website.

Star Trek V sucked so you hate the score.

Star Trek 2009 sucked so you hate the score.

UP won the Oscar for best score, but big deal. So did The Social Network. Both films had a few minutes of memorable or catchy music, and the rest was...is it over yet?

I want to like UP, I really do. I just can't. I think it's overrated and boring.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:49 PM

how sad for you not to like UP.

I do tend to listen to scores from Films I like but not always and I do listen to a few scores I like but don't care for the film. I never said the score to Star Trek V sucked, no where on this site have I ever said that, find where I said and I will be amazed. But the film is awful on most all levels but not to the point it's even a guilty pleasure.

I've never said social network is a bad film, I've never seen it. I hate its director and subject matter so I won't waste my time watching it since I'm still waiting for his awful film about benjie buttons to finish, is it over yet?

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:04 PM

Sad, yes, I cry myself to sleep every night because I don't like UP.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:06 PM

no, I'm quite satisfied. I am hopeful that the Next John Williams will write a better score for Star Trek 2013. I really don't see that as much of a task.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:17 PM

I liked the ST score at first, but then the rot set in after the umpteenth time I'd heard that blasted main theme which needs a bridge like Captain Kirk needs a swivel chair to command one. It's so self-satisfied in its blandness, and ultimately irritating as a result.

Still love the movie of course, being that I'm not a Trekkie.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:42 PM

Quint an epileptic friend of mine just walked and saw your avatar and had a grand mal seizure.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:47 PM

Another one bites the dust!

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:50 PM

If he dies, he dies.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:06 PM

I think the next score could be quite good. John Carter was his best adventure writing since the Medal of Honor era, IMO, and I think he already left himself with some good material to work on, with the end credits nicely pointing the way forward, if he and Abrams are so inclined. The adventurous Spock theme bit that Chaac pointed out is one instance, and the other biggie is the counterpoint between the TOS theme and the ST09 theme at about 0:55. There's also the fact that Klingons are confirmed to be a significant part of this film, which gives Giacchino more to explore.

It would be stellar if they have worked in something that has a bit more philosophical heft. I don't think Giacchino has tackled a film that has that going on in the way that some of the best Trek does, and it would be interesting to hear how he deals with it.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:13 PM

I liked some of the more atonal writing he explored in Narada Bing (and elsewhere). I hope there's more room for that in the sequel, he doesn't get much opportunity to write like that.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:23 PM

There's also the fact that Klingons are confirmed to be a significant part of this film, which gives Giacchino more to explore.

Would a Klingon choir be too obvious?

It would be stellar if they have worked in something that has a bit more philosophical heft. I don't think Giacchino has tackled a film that has that going on in the way that some of the best Trek does, and it would be interesting to hear how he deals with it.

I agree.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 09:33 PM

Not sure if this has been posted but some pics of the new uniforms for the sequel has shown up.

http://io9.com/59152...rom-star-trek-2

The design influence is very heavily from Starship Troopers.
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 09:35 PM

That looks boring!

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:20 PM

that looks awful





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