Very much looking forward to it.
I find Giacchino's first score fantastic.
Cumberbatch is piling up quite a respectable amount of legendary roles lately.
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"You think they wear those tight-fitting clothes just so some other bride can say 'Gee your hips look succulent'? The good-looking ones know we're looking, they love us to be looking, and god bless 'em, they're carrying the rest of their sex!" - Al Bundy
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Apart from Sherlock, what other legendary roles has he done?
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Aren't Smaug, Necromancer and Star Trek villain iconic enough?
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"Done." Past tense. I think Steef may have been looking for past roles, not ones in upcoming movies.
And to be perfectly honest, outside of knowing that he is in BBC's Sherlock, which I have not seen, there is really no reason that an undereducated, undercultured Amerikanskie like myself should have ever heard of this man. I guess that means "no, no legendary roles to date."
And to be perfectly honest, outside of knowing that he is in BBC's Sherlock, which I have not seen, there is really no reason that an undereducated, undercultured Amerikanskie like myself should have ever heard of this man. I guess that means "no, no legendary roles to date."
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Then who, according to Amerikanskies, would be iconic?
Superman? Family Guy?
Superman? Family Guy?
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I must admit, that is an odd look for our dear Sherlock Holmes...
I must admit, that is an odd look for our dear Sherlock Holmes...
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He had a small role as Joseph Hooker but in the real world nobody knows who that guy is.
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Apart from Sherlock, what other legendary roles has he done?
He is the be brave guy in Warhorse.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:15 PM
Cumberbatch has a large role in Tinker, Tailor too. But right now he's easily most well known for Sherlock.
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 11:22 PM
The point is that hes mainly a character actor. Not a new Hollywood star.
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Indeed, how did Cumberbatch pick his career up so fast? 2011 was a fantastic year for him.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:21 AM
People took notice of him because of his fabulous acting in Sherlock.
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Anyone else know him from Broken News? 
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So has it been confirmed that Cumberbatch is playing Khan?
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I thought he was playing Captain Klaa?
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No no, he is playing captain kagi.
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And I've read that he's playing Sybok.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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It would be cool if they decided to invent new characters.
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Nero was a new character. Well, he tried to be.
I think he was just Khan and Shinzon combined in a transporter accident, a la Tuvix, but who am I kidding.
I think he was just Khan and Shinzon combined in a transporter accident, a la Tuvix, but who am I kidding.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Nero was a new character. Well, he tried to be.
I think he was just Khan and Shinzon combined in a transporter accident, a la Tuvix, but who am I kidding.
Ha! That makes a lot of sense.
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Maybe he's playing Captain Crunch?
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I thought he was playing a Vulcan/human hybrid, Sher'lok.
Seriously, the one suggestion I think has any sort of merit to it, based on a few other related tidbits I've seen, is...
But that could be completely wrong, too.
Seriously, the one suggestion I think has any sort of merit to it, based on a few other related tidbits I've seen, is...
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But that could be completely wrong, too.
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I thought he was playing a Vulcan/human hybrid, Sher'lok.
Seriously, the one suggestion I think has any sort of merit to it, based on a few other related tidbits I've seen, is...Spoiler
But that could be completely wrong, too.
I would rather go with that character than Khan.
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Maybe he's playing Captain Crunch?
That's possible. After all, Will Riker told a malevolent alien species that he served aboard the Good Ship Lollipop. Star Trek is terribly inconsistent regarding which aspects of 20th century life are still known in the far future.
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Isn't he wearing starfleet clothes?
Maybe he can fight Spock to establish him as a "badass normal".
Maybe he can fight Spock to establish him as a "badass normal".
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Isn't he wearing starfleet clothes?
Yeah, that means something...
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Nero, now there is one poorly written, poorly conceived, poorly acted villain. He so stoopid.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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I really just hope that Star Trek (X) II:
1. Has NO time travel elements whatsoever
2. Does NOT end up just being a "Enterprise saves the world from a humanoid villian who is destroying worlds out of personal revenge"
That's all I ask
1. Has NO time travel elements whatsoever
2. Does NOT end up just being a "Enterprise saves the world from a humanoid villian who is destroying worlds out of personal revenge"
That's all I ask
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The current crew running Trek is too smart to try to redo Khan, I'm fully confident they won't go there. The Gary Mitchell idea is an interesting one, that's a more obscure (less know by the general public) one and I could see it being fleshed out nicely.
Speaking of Khan, I've long said that a really cool opening for the next Trek movie (when I was also hoping that it would be a Klingon movie) would be a Klingon ship in space, maybe a battle with a Federation ship, and a huge piece of space debris gets in the way and gets blasted to pieces. One of the pieces flys by the camera and we see just barely on the charred remains of this small piece of hull: SS Botany Bay.
Speaking of Khan, I've long said that a really cool opening for the next Trek movie (when I was also hoping that it would be a Klingon movie) would be a Klingon ship in space, maybe a battle with a Federation ship, and a huge piece of space debris gets in the way and gets blasted to pieces. One of the pieces flys by the camera and we see just barely on the charred remains of this small piece of hull: SS Botany Bay.
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OMG I nearly fell out of the chair.The current crew running Trek is too smart to try to redo Khan,
You're talking about a team that couldn't form a logic thought if Life itself depended on it.
My expectations for Star Trek 2 is the cast will continue to be engaging and thoroughly entertaining, except Simon I'm all wrong for the part Peg. The music will be droll and uninspired like the last one, come on MG knock it out of the park this time, you don't have to acheive Goldsmith, Horner or even L. R status, but better than 6, 7 and11 should be doable for a guy like you. The story will be borderline horrible but better than last time. The engine room will be better because no one like the milk processing plant, I beams and concrete in space do not work idiots.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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I really hope they don't do Khan. It's too obvious, too expected. If they do, they technically could only redo the TV episode "Space Seed", or a variation of it, right? "Wrath of Khan" only works if it's set years after the initial encounter with Khan. If they just jump right to "Wrath of Khan", how can there be a proper backstory? Kirk exiled Khan when Kirk was, what, 4 years old? Please. And I sure hope they don't try to force "Space Seed" and "Wrath of Khan" into one movie, that would suck too.
So I'm hoping for either an original bad guy or Gary Mitchell who I'd be OK with.
So I'm hoping for either an original bad guy or Gary Mitchell who I'd be OK with.
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I wouldn't be okay with Gary Mitchell. I want an all original story. Otherwise I'd feel they're wasting away a franchise with lots of potential.
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"Where No Man Has Gone Before" is being redone in a comic to tie into the movie. So I doubt Gary Mitchell will also feature in the film. Which is good, of course... bring on an original villain.
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I think that makes it MORE likely he'll be in the film...
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He dies at the end of the comic just like he did in the original pilot. So...
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Spock died in TWOK, Tasha Yar died in season one of TNG...what are you talking about!
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lesbians never die, they just get new partners.Spock died in TWOK, Tasha Yar died in season one of TNG...what are you talking about!
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Yar was not a lesbo, she was kissing that dude from the Enterprise C that was gonna be destroyed.
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she was confused, any woman who wears her hair like that is not only a great softball player, drives a ford pickup, but also is great at decorating in southwest decor. The real proof was the dreamcatcher in her quarters...and the Melissa Ethredge poster.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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He dies at the end of the comic just like he did in the original pilot. So...
The new films take place before the timeframe of TOS....
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