A poster on Intrada said the complete score was 52 minutes, and the current LP is only 30. However, I can't vouch for the guy's claim.
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That definitely doesn't sound likely, unless there are a lot of alternates or something. MV called this release lazy on FSM.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 03:25 AM
Ha! Really? I'll have to find that thread!
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 03:50 AM
MV called this release lazy on FSM.
I wouldn't be surprised if he said that. I said on FSM these releases with out expansions is rather pointless and stupid. I mean ya it's great for those who missed out on the first time but with no expansion ...just pure lazy and LAME. This is why I wish Varèse didn't have a lot 80's and 90's titles in perpetuity. If they didn't it would give labels like LLL and Intrada to release expanded/complete versions of said scores.
I know MV has stated he wants to release the complete versions for The Abyss and Volcano but can't because Varèse has the rights in perpetuity.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:04 AM
I wonder if they will do OOP Club releases, like The Fury.
Oh, that would be awesome, I somehow managed to missThe Fury and have wanted it for years ...
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 11:51 AM
I thought Chinatown was Varese's original catalogue title. But I guess I was wrong.
Koray is right--Chinatown is not part of the Encore series. The three Encore reissues here are all Varèse's own original catalogue titles .
And they released just the OST album again with improved sound as a limited edition. Is there much music to add to Chinatown album anyway? I seem to remember very little music in the film itself, only in key scenes, not much beyond the 30 minutes on the OST.
How about the rejected score? It's been done before...
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True. Not a bad idea I agree.
I thought Chinatown was Varese's original catalogue title. But I guess I was wrong.
Koray is right--Chinatown is not part of the Encore series. The three Encore reissues here are all Varèse's own original catalogue titles .
And they released just the OST album again with improved sound as a limited edition. Is there much music to add to Chinatown album anyway? I seem to remember very little music in the film itself, only in key scenes, not much beyond the 30 minutes on the OST.
How about the rejected score? It's been done before...
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Speaking of Varese, I had a dream Incanus sent me a copy of Dracula in the mail, not sure whether it was expanded, encore, or not... 
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Speaking of Varese, I had a dream Incanus sent me a copy of Dracula in the mail, not sure whether it was expanded, encore, or not...
It had an extra track, a disco version of the Dracula theme on it of course. And obviously I can afford to be quite generous in dreams. What would you like me to send in your next dream? The sky's the limit! Spared no expense. Nothing's too good for my dream buddies.
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Speaking of Varese, I had a dream Incanus sent me a copy of Dracula in the mail, not sure whether it was expanded, encore, or not...
John Williams: Star Wars Saga: 10 Disc set.
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I'd buy that for a dollar.
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nice Robo reference.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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June 28, 2012
NEW LIMITED EDITIONS COMING JULY 9th!
On Monday, July 9 we will announce two new releases in our limited edition series and also two new releases in our Varèse Encore series! See you then!
Source: http://www.varesesarabande.us/
For those keeping track, that's:
Sat Jun 30th 2pm EST : La-La Land Comic Con Titles announced
Thur Jul 7 morning: Intrada July 12 batch clues first appear
Monday July 9 3am EST: Next Varese batch announced
Mid-Late July: FSM CD #248 announced
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:02 PM
I'd bet there's at least two Williamses in there (between the four labels).
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We know that FSM is done releasing JW titles.
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1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 02:26 AM
I saw this guess on FSM, and I think it's dead on:
Hmm . . . Horner's FOR GREATER GLORY and Tyler's JOHN DIES AT THE END?
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JOHN DIES AT THE END?
Spoilers, man, spoilers!
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Varese announced the latest batch 7 hours ago, 4 titles limited to 1000 copies each.
2 Limited Editions:
William Ross - The Mighty Macs
John Debney - A Thousand Words
And 2 Encores:
Georges Delerue - Crimes of the Heart
Maurice Jarre - Tai-Pan
2 Limited Editions:
William Ross - The Mighty Macs
John Debney - A Thousand Words
And 2 Encores:
Georges Delerue - Crimes of the Heart
Maurice Jarre - Tai-Pan
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The only one I would consider from that batch (the Delerue), I already have...
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 06:44 PM
All 4 titles are already on low quantity alerts, with less than 50 to 150 copies left each, depending on the title
http://www.varesesar...CED!/Categories
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"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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I am pretty sure Karate Kid 4 is coming. Grap this one and I can finally have all 4 scores.
Wondering what else could be.
Wondering what else could be.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 03:28 AM
Hopefully The Ten Commandments.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 03:38 AM
I am pretty sure Karate Kid 4 is coming. Grap this one and I can finally have all 4 scores.
Ya that seems like it's a given. I bought the box set when it was first released. I'm glad though that they finally released them separately for those who missed out on the run of the box set.
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It's been ages since the last club release hasn't it? I don't even remember what was released.
As usual, not expecting much from this batch, but another 90s DE would be nice.
As usual, not expecting much from this batch, but another 90s DE would be nice.
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It's been ages since the last club release hasn't it? I don't even remember what was released.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:06 PM
I think the last one of theirs I bought was Midway.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:50 PM
Ditto. Midway is the only Club CD I've bought since Family Plot in 2010
Here's a full list
http://en.wikipedia....rabande#CD_Club
Interesting to look at the list, from '08-'10 they regularly released tons of titles every quarter. Then all of a sudden in '11 and '12 they really just petered out
Here's a full list
http://en.wikipedia....rabande#CD_Club
Interesting to look at the list, from '08-'10 they regularly released tons of titles every quarter. Then all of a sudden in '11 and '12 they really just petered out
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:17 PM
Ditto on your ditto.
Though I downloaded the Chinatown OST from Amazon since then, which is identical to the VCL release, though I consider that a technicality.
I hope they release something I want. Varese has largely been irrelevant for a number of months in regards to releases that I want.
Though I downloaded the Chinatown OST from Amazon since then, which is identical to the VCL release, though I consider that a technicality.
I hope they release something I want. Varese has largely been irrelevant for a number of months in regards to releases that I want.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:25 PM
Ah I got Chinatown, forgot about that.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:59 PM
I'm crossing my fingers for some unreleased/expanded Williams and Goldsmith gems from the Universal vaults.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:37 PM
Frankly the most productive thing Varese can do these days is sell off some of their perpetual rights.
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 01:21 AM
Yeah. Varese titles that interest me are few and far between these days.
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 04:58 AM
Without them say goodbye to the contemporary soundtrack release.Frankly the most productive thing Varese can do these days is sell off some of their perpetual rights.
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 11:34 AM
I certainly appreciate their efforts for contemporary releases.
In fact, your point strengthens my argument - allowing other labels to expand their older (90s) material gives them more resources to release lots of current releases. Everyone wins!
In fact, your point strengthens my argument - allowing other labels to expand their older (90s) material gives them more resources to release lots of current releases. Everyone wins!
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 04:36 PM
I won't argue with that. They've been slacking in the Club department. Wonder how they'll handle Star Trek Into Darkness.
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Wonder how they'll handle Star Trek Into Darkness.
Deliberately remove the choral tracks from their soundtrack to gleefully earn the disdain of purists worldwide.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:14 AM
Don't forget tonight's unveiling folks! 12am PST.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:25 AM
I hope its TTC, then I can stop wondering when it will be released, and by whom.
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I will be asleep.
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