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#41 Matt C

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 03:00 AM

Filming has officially commenced. Looks like Whedon will be the sole credited writer (barring the "based on the comics by" credits) too.

http://www.superhero...e-a-first-photo

Very excited. Now we can speculate who will score...

Christophe Beck anyone? David Newman? Or Robert Duncan?

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 10:31 AM

Very excited. Now we can speculate who will score...

Christophe Beck anyone? David Newman? Or Robert Duncan?


I suspect it will be someone like Djawdi, Jablonsky or some other RC guy.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 01:57 PM

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It's a shame none of these characters or films leading up to The Avengers will have any musical continuity.


Thor is the only score that sounds good and Elfman's Hulk has been cast aside and forgotten.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 03:05 PM

I suspect it will be someone like Djawdi, Jablonsky or some other RC guy.


Don't say things like that. Unlike some directors who prefer the dumbed-down approach (I'm looking at you Chris Nolan), Whedon knows how to use a composer. While Whedon was working on Buffy, his episodes had some powerful and exciting music (especially the season finales). As far as Serenity goes, he wanted a composer who could do a different spin on the sci-fi score. But that had its moments too... especially in the last half of the film.

It's a shame none of these characters or films leading up to The Avengers will have any musical continuity.

Thor is the only score that sounds good and Elfman's Hulk has been cast aside and forgotten.


We don't know whether Whedon will stick to some kind of musical continuity. Who knows, he might get Patrick Doyle or someone from the previous Marvel films. (Chances are he'll get someone he's worked with on his shows or from his first film.)

I hope Alan Silvestri's score for Captain America will be good. But I hated Hulk, movie-wise and the music didn't stand out either.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 06:28 PM

anyway it will be norton's hulk, not bana's.

so the composer to continuity-issue would be craig amstrong, if that was his name.

I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 08:23 PM

Yup. I say David Newman or Patrick Doyle.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 08:31 PM

I say John Williams!

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 03:35 AM

Yup. I say David Newman or Patrick Doyle.


Why Patrick Doyle? I'm certainly not against him if he gets The Avengers (provided he doesn't do another RC-inspired effort), but why him?

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 11:43 AM

No no. I was trying to figure out who could actually end up scoring the film, not who would I like to do so. I'm not sure who would I choose.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 06:10 PM

Whedon directed the post-credits scene at the end of Thor:

http://www.slashfilm...its-scene-thor/

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 06:23 PM

If no-one else, I'd say Powell, Giacchino, or Howard Shore (Hey, it would be interesting to hear how he would handle it) would be who I would like to score it, but most likely it would be a RCP "composer"

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 06:37 PM

If it has to be a RC composer, then John Powell would be great. He's done two fine superhero scores (X-Men 3 and Hancock), and he can emulate the tone Marvel Studios wants.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:23 PM

First (unrealistic) choice: John Williams himself.

Second choice: Powell. Or David Newman, who has worked with Whedon before...
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:25 PM

I think David Newman has the chops to do it.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 10:05 PM

I hate saying this, being a loving fan, but I don't trust Christophe Beck with action films like this, even though Whedon adds actual plots, emotion, and thoughtful design of plot & script -- which can inspire any talented composer, after thee (for me) lack-luster Percy Jackson, and from the samples I've heard, "Red". I think it would do Beck wonders to study with somebody like William Stromberg -- for example. Then I might look forward.


David Newman is my main choice. But I'm a little leary after "The Spirit" and "The Spy Next Door"; I want the Newman who brought us "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure", "Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey", "Operation Dumbo Drop", so forth. If he can pull off something like B&T1 -- that would be icing on the cake of hiring him. And if, coincidently, he gets hired to score "Bill & Ted 3" (reported the script was finished Aril 25) -- that would be the best news of the year for me, sans Yared getting a historical epic film.



Robert Duncan, most certainly needs the break, and if his 7+ minute piece that ended "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" is any indication of what he might do (imagine a big orchestra, too...), then hire this guy:




Joel Goldsmith gets a vote, too.
(check out the other three suites)


Heck, what about William Stromberg -- has he done any scores with a modern touchg, that I assume Whedon would want?




I want the standard players out (Silvestri [especially after "G.I. Joe"], J.N.H. [especially after "Green Lantern"]), and NONE -- not a single person who's ever worked with Zimmer or as part of his "camp".




And, being a champion of television composers, I'd love to see Velton Ray Bunch move up.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 10:44 PM

We are not exactly short of composers.

From the veterans in film, Christopher Young gets my vote.

JNH, go to the fantasy-thrillers room, over there, thank you. (And this is coming from a fan).

As for the Zimmr camp, if it was up to me John Powell could be allowed if given the time to develop something new for him.

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 04:49 AM

I want the standard players out (Silvestri [especially after "G.I. Joe"], J.N.H. [especially after "Green Lantern"]), and NONE -- not a single person who's ever worked with Zimmer or as part of his "camp".


I wouldn't count Silvestri out, especially if his Captain America score is a return to form. And granted, you hate Zimmer and RC passionately -- but I thought you didn't mind John Powell? So much more sophisticated, talented, and knows how to write a good theme. But considering the track record of directors on Marvel Studios' films bringing on their usual composers, I say Whedon has first pick on his composer. Christophe Beck is at his prime when he works for Whedon (he owes Whedon for the Buffy gig and the Emmy win), not so much with others. Robert Duncan is an all right choice, he's a guy I could get behind if he gets the job. David Newman I'm honestly on the fence on, but he can write some amazingly beautiful music when given the right film.

Even if Whedon gets a composer that's liked by a lot of people, the thorny issue is whether Marvel will 'encourage' he/she to keep a certain sound established in Iron Man and somewhat in Thor. I'd be happy if Whedon fought tooth and nail to get the composer to do their own thing.

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 07:42 AM

Aren't Marvel just a comic book company? Who made them in charge of the music department?

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 08:01 AM

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 08:07 AM

I wonder what would JW's RC-flavoured score sound like. ;)

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 01:52 PM

I wonder what would JW's RC-flavoured score sound like. ;)

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sorta like Steiner in the Grass, but even more electronics

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 01:56 PM

I think it would sound good.

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 05:14 PM

J.N.H., quite frankly, gets too many of the high profile assignments -- let somebody else have a shot.

Yes, I DO mind Powell; while I have found some of his stuff okay, I can name probably twenty-five to fifty people who coudl do better and need the work. He's certainly got no problem grabbing up bouncing CGI animal films, so let him enjoy his pigeon-hold.
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Posted 25 May 2011 - 10:38 PM

Aren't Marvel just a comic book company? Who made them in charge of the music department?


Kevin Feige is the main producer of Marvel Studios. He was the reason Ramin Djawadi got Iron Man before he let Jon Favreau bring in John Debney for the sequel. Even then, Debney's voice got squashed almost entirely; the more I re-listen to Doyle's Thor the less RC it sounds. But you get the point.

Feige and the other producers want some form of musical continuity (or a similar sound). Whether it's a composer who's done a Marvel film before or new to it -- it's the producer's call. Some producers let the directors pick the composers and have "a hands-off" clause. Others, like Jerry Bruckheimer, don't want an old-fashioned sound but want something new and inferior.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 04:09 PM

Here's a little summary article of what's known about the film

http://www.movies.co...t-film-yet/3130

And more new info including more villains in the film

http://www.slashfilm...engers-villain/

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 08:34 AM

Has anybody seen that already?

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 09:06 AM

I like it. It could be better if Hawkeye wasn't pointing an arrow at Capt. America's head.

My interest for this film still resides in Joss Whedon, Hulk and Iron Man. And possibly Thor.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 02:36 PM

Its shooting in 2D, not 3D

http://www.slashfilm...s-shooting-2d/?

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 07:35 PM

The first teaser is attached to the end of Captain America. And yes, it has some great footage.

Comic Book Movie has some working links to bootleg versions of the teaser here.

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 07:42 PM

Thor's got a new costume and Capt. America looks closer to comic book.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 03:32 AM

lol why is Loki in handcuffs? Must be part of a bigger plan...

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 06:03 AM

Marvel Releases Final Concept Art from THE AVENGERS

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 05:54 PM

I wonder who will be playing Emma Peel and John Steed in this film?
If it isn't high concept the it's not worth watching believed the pseudo superior one.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 06:06 PM

Hollywood tried once, with Ralph Fiennes and Uma Thurman. It bombed. This is a completely different type of Avengers, altogether.

I know you're trying to be clever and show all of us your age and culture, but know that the British spy TV show predates Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's Avengers by only two years. You, of course, are slightly older than both.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 06:35 PM

I wonder who will be playing Emma Peel and John Steed in this film?

Isn't Scarlett Johansson playing her? ;)

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 06:55 PM

That would be Black Widow. Natalia Romanova. Natasha Romanoff.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:01 PM

Hollywood tried once, with Ralph Fiennes and Uma Thurman. It bombed. This is a completely different type of Avengers, altogether.

I know you're trying to be clever and show all of us your age and culture, but know that the British spy TV show predates Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's Avengers by only two years. You, of course, are slightly older than both.



my age and culture, please, I was just being funny without you having to analyze it so succinctly. I never cared much for the marvel comic Avengers, they seemed like a knee jerk reaction to the Justice League only with less powerful superheros. Though this does show my age and culture, I was hoping Sub Mariner would be involved as a villain or ally, which ever the producers chose to do as he was both at one time or another.
If it isn't high concept the it's not worth watching believed the pseudo superior one.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:05 PM


I wonder who will be playing Emma Peel and John Steed in this film?

Isn't Scarlett Johansson playing her? ;)

I have no interest whatsoever in this movie but if she played Peel then I would at least watch the trailer.

Grrr

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:17 PM

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:17 PM

You've all lost it.





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