Not really. I'd rather have had Arnold, or even Powell.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:23 PM
we are talking capt. america.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:42 PM
It seems to be the 11th Commandment: "You shall not have interesting music in comic-based Blockbusters".
You wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing "Subtle Plans Are Here Again."
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:51 PM
That cannot be a commandment. God's commandments were meant to stand forever without revision.
Superman was a comic-based blockbuster with interesting music, as well as its sequels. So was Batman. And Batman Returns. And Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy. Many people are fond of the X-Men scores by Kamen and Powell. and Silvestri's Captain America. Even Batman Forever was a box office smash, and had a superb action score.
Somewhere along the way, comic book movie scores lost their way, along with every other genre of film and film score. Batman Begins, The Dark Knight & Rises, Thor, the two Iron Men, the two Hulks, Avengers, etc. Sign of the times.
Superman was a comic-based blockbuster with interesting music, as well as its sequels. So was Batman. And Batman Returns. And Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy. Many people are fond of the X-Men scores by Kamen and Powell. and Silvestri's Captain America. Even Batman Forever was a box office smash, and had a superb action score.
Somewhere along the way, comic book movie scores lost their way, along with every other genre of film and film score. Batman Begins, The Dark Knight & Rises, Thor, the two Iron Men, the two Hulks, Avengers, etc. Sign of the times.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 04:20 PM
so who dies????
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don't answer
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:22 AM
I like Elfman's Hulk.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:33 AM
Goldenthal's Bat-scores are quite good, too.
EDIT: Ah, nevermind; you got it.
EDIT: Ah, nevermind; you got it.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:23 AM
Sorry Joe, I thought Ang Lee's was going to be as awful as I'd heard, but was pleasantly surprised by how decent it was. And the action sequence in the desert was absolutely fantastic.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:32 AM
That cannot be a commandment. God's commandments were meant to stand forever without revision.
Superman was a comic-based blockbuster with interesting music, as well as its sequels. So was Batman. And Batman Returns. And Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy. Many people are fond of the X-Men scores by Kamen and Powell. and Silvestri's Captain America. Even Batman Forever was a box office smash, and had a superb action score.
While i don't would apply the word 'interesting' to SUPERMAN (it's rousing, alright, but interesting?), you are right up until BATMAN FOREVER/BATMAN & ROBIN. Those were really the last good one, with Elfman's HULK several notches below. The rest: forget it...
You wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing "Subtle Plans Are Here Again."
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:33 AM
While i don't would apply the word 'interesting' to SUPERMAN (it's rousing, alright, but interesting?)
It's "interesting" because it's good because it's rousing.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:45 AM
While i don't would apply the word 'interesting' to SUPERMAN (it's rousing, alright, but interesting?)
It's "interesting" because it's good because it's rousing.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:51 AM
No I'm not trolling, but am I the only one who isn't that huge into williams superman? Also, along with that, I enjoy Zimmer/JNH's bat-scores?
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You're not alone.
Probably.
While i don't would apply the word 'interesting' to SUPERMAN (it's rousing, alright, but interesting?)
It's "interesting" because it's good because it's rousing.
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Probably.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:16 AM
And Armstrong's Incredible Hulk isn't too bad either. And I like Doyle's Thor.I like Elfman's Hulk.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:35 AM
And Armstrong's Incredible Hulk isn't too bad either. And I like Doyle's Thor.
I like Elfman's Hulk.
Doyle's Thor has cool stuff. In fact, picking composers for rescoring some films, my choice for Thor was Doyle himself again, without being restrained by Marvel.
Iron Man should sound like Poledouris.
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Kingdom of the Crystal Skull should've sounded like John Williams.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:35 PM
True dat. I just wouldn't call an Indiana Jones movie a "comic based blockbuster."
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you like garbage but you don't like Greatness???No I'm not trolling, but am I the only one who isn't that huge into williams superman? Also, along with that, I enjoy Zimmer/JNH's bat-scores?
zimmer on his best day while holding the hand of God couldn't compose anything as good as Superman!
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:51 PM
And the cool thing about Zimmer is he'd be the first person to agree.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:44 PM
he himself is a huge fan of the Superman score.And the cool thing about Zimmer is he'd be the first person to agree.
it seems that US Avenger filmgoers will be treated to a second mid/post credit sequence that hasn't been seen overseas.
www.darkhorizons.com linky for Jason's satisfaction.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:41 PM
as long as people post it in the net...
BTW guys, KOTCS is awesome, dont taint it with including it in thi conversation....
BTW guys, KOTCS is awesome, dont taint it with including it in thi conversation....
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BTW guys, KOTCS is awesome, dont taint it with including it in thi conversation....
What he said.
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BTW guys, KOTCS is awesome, dont taint it with including it in thi conversation....
What he said.
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I like the KOTCS score
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:30 PM
It's mediocrity placed on a pedestal surrounded by shit.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:05 PM
No, wrong again.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:32 PM
It is a worthy equal to its sister scores, and its only fault is that the movie was released 19 years after the last one, so the cut and paste job of familiar themes and renditions of the march was obligatory (more than in TOD and LC where only the march was needed - but hey remember basket chase and ark theme ), much like in the visuals they have to mimick some scenes or bring cameos. That's because people want to see that at the cinema and not be alienated (no pun intended...)
(almost?) Every sequel released more than 10 years after the last film does this musically.
And remember 'flight FROM peru' was used for a flight TO peru. So its fitting, specially since it is a map-travel scene.
(almost?) Every sequel released more than 10 years after the last film does this musically.
And remember 'flight FROM peru' was used for a flight TO peru. So its fitting, specially since it is a map-travel scene.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:35 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if those cut-and-paste moments were rescored alternate bits.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 12:13 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if those cut-and-paste moments were rescored alternate bits.
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Me neither.
I don't really understand the need for doing that.
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Agree, agree and agree! William's Superman is a hair-raising classic. And Zimmer is a borderline hack.you like garbage but you don't like Greatness???
No I'm not trolling, but am I the only one who isn't that huge into williams superman? Also, along with that, I enjoy Zimmer/JNH's bat-scores?
zimmer on his best day while holding the hand of God couldn't compose anything as good as Superman!
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:24 PM
Saw this movie last night at midnight and absolutely loved it. Not being a huge fan of Whedon, I never though his television sensibilities could handle such a big movie with the scale it would have but I was entirely wrong. The action scenes were all very well done and whoever edited the final battle deserves an award just for keeping track of everything going on, let alone making it one of my favorite action sequences in quite some time. The humor that is typical of Whedon was well placed and never felt out of character nor did it ever feel forced. It was also nice to see cameos from a few people that Whedon's worked with in the past.
Basically, it was like the perfect summer blockbuster. Their was really only 5 action sequences, all of them well done and felt like comic book panels coming to life, but without that terrible CGI look that happened so much in Spider-Man 3. Yes its 2.5 hours, but honestly I wish that the extra half hour of scenes cut were left back in as I didn't want the movie to end. And for those seeing it in the U.S., make sure to stay to the very end. The extra scene is definitely worth it.
Basically, it was like the perfect summer blockbuster. Their was really only 5 action sequences, all of them well done and felt like comic book panels coming to life, but without that terrible CGI look that happened so much in Spider-Man 3. Yes its 2.5 hours, but honestly I wish that the extra half hour of scenes cut were left back in as I didn't want the movie to end. And for those seeing it in the U.S., make sure to stay to the very end. The extra scene is definitely worth it.
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I want to see it, but I haven't seen Iron Man 2 or Thor yet. I did see Iron Man (1) as well as Edward Norton's Hulk.
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Don't forget about seeing Captain America first too
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The movie works (OH MY FUCKING GOD DOES IT WORK, IT WAS AWESOME... sorry) on its own terms, but it's a little like dessert without dinner... you really should have dinner first. ;-)
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I forgot about Captain America; I did see it.
I don't goddamn understand why Netflix hasn't put Thor up for streaming. Iron Man 2 is up.
I don't goddamn understand why Netflix hasn't put Thor up for streaming. Iron Man 2 is up.
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It was actually a solid fun film. It was very enjoyable and with the exceptions of some poor visual effects, I was entertained and found the film enjoyable. Of course I fear that it might soon become overrated, but it was enjoyable indeed.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:22 AM
it is definately less than the sum of it's parts.
there is nothing great here. I wont say I'm disappointed because I didn't expect all that much.
there is nothing great here. I wont say I'm disappointed because I didn't expect all that much.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 04:25 AM
It' just another movie, in the same vein as previous Marvel movies, as it was to be expected. Tomorrow I will have forgotten about it. There's just nothing great, peculiar or unique in this movie
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Ok, I just watched Iron Man 2. It had me going until Tony Stark created "a new element" in all of three minutes using a giant laser beam to imbue a blue triangle with power.
I have seen dead fish give better performances than Scarlett Johannsen in this film. Fortunately as deadpan as her voice is, it's in an alto that I find sexy. And she's hot as hell. That saves it.
Best part was when all the drones flew by and activated the car alarms.
I have seen dead fish give better performances than Scarlett Johannsen in this film. Fortunately as deadpan as her voice is, it's in an alto that I find sexy. And she's hot as hell. That saves it.
Best part was when all the drones flew by and activated the car alarms.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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