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[taybo20]

Ordered as well.

[Stefancos]

I forgot to put 2009 in the title.


I kept refreshing Varese's site and when I saw Star Trek I thought it was TMP.

Damn you Olivarez, I thought the same!

[Mark Olivarez]

I forgot to put 2009 in the title.


I kept refreshing Varese's site and when I saw Star Trek I thought it was TMP.

Damn you Olivarez, I thought the same!

Well if the rumors are true you may have your wish granted soon.

[Richard Penna]

I'm surprised Harry Potter hasn't been expanded yet, via iTunes exclusive tracks or anything like that. Even a kind of sampler CD containing bonus tracks from all the different scores. By their very nature, all the Harry Potter soundtracks have been very popular and are prime for complete/expanded releases. I'm hopeful we'll get them.

Potter 1 is approaching its 10th anniversary (woah....) next year. Gotta count for something, surely.

But I can't see WB giving the rights to any label that would do it properly.

[Demondm810]

Amazing. June is going to be fannnnnntastic. Ordered.

[John Crichton]

You've just had Black Sunday and The Poseidon Adventure. Go sit in the corner and listen to them, and let every other, positive, contributor to this thread enjoy this release. I mean FFS, if it ain't JW, you don't want it to happen do you?

Actually ,Poseidon Adventure is part of the problem. We don't get new stuff, just the same old stuff that sounds a bit better. Mainly bought it for completeness sake

For those of us that weren't able to get the older releases it's a great opportunity to pick it up.

[Datameister]

Whew, just ordered. Feels a little silly paying almost $40 for this thing, but oh well. I do want to support releases like this, and my bank account is going to be feeling a little healthier soon anyway...and I'm going to enjoy getting to listen to the score!

[Blumenkohl]

ORDERED!

By the way have I mentioned the Giacchino has grown on me over the last year. I've gone from disliking it and finding it disappointing to listening to it in my car every other day.

Mark Olivarez, I sincerely apologize for ever thinking you are foolish for liking it.

[OneBuckFilms]

Datameister, it does mean your custom mixes are likely to be completely obsolete.

[Datameister]

Absolutely! We've already addressed this in the thread. I think this is a "best of both worlds." I got to experience the fun challenge of putting together a complete score (along with anyone else who wanted to), and now we get an even better version!

There'll still be a few things missing, though, I believe - the pieces of source music, some alternates, etc.

One thing I'm wondering about is what mixes this album will contain. The album, film, and DVD features differ in the presence and absence of percussion, choir, and/or erhu, depending on the cue. It'll be interesting to see what they choose to use. I must say, I hope the film mix of "Hangar Management" (fun title!) is used, at least. Sometimes the heavier percussion overdubs in the film strike me as unnecessary, but that particular cue sounds rather underwhelming without it.

[Trent Bennett]

It's possible they maybe with out the added percussion. I thought with Chris Tilton added the percussion as a last minute thing at the end?

[Datameister]

Yeah, I believe he said he helped add in some or all of those overdubs toward the end of the process. That being the case, I guess it's pretty unlikely they'll be in there. The choir, though, could be mixed the way it's mixed in the film - or not. Same goes for the erhu, which in some cases was dialed out of the film, leaving the orchestra to play by itself.

[OneBuckFilms]

Well, thank you for doing those mixes, Datameister. I listen to them more often than the OST.

Looking at your edits and the track timings, it's clear that a couple of cues may have been merged for this release.

But it definately looks like we have around 80-90% of the score here, if not all of it.

I'm just laughing out loud at the cue titles !!!

The Flask At Hand, Flying Into a Trphlthdl and I've Fallen and I Can't Beam Up! are priceless !!!

[Datameister]

Absolutely! It's a really fun process for me. I expect anyone who happened to get their hands on it to buy this release now, though.

Yeah, some cues had to be merged (e.g. "Star Trek" and "Narada Bing"). I'm thinking some of these are just cases of single cues having their middle passages dialed out of the film, though, so what we thought were distinct cues actually never were.

[Trent Hoyt]

Well, this is really cool!

[Hedji]

I forgot to put 2009 in the title.


I kept refreshing Varese's site and when I saw Star Trek I thought it was TMP.

Damn you Olivarez, I thought the same!

Well if the rumors are true you may have your wish granted soon.

Are there really rumors of TMP coming? Did I miss something?

[Marian Schedenig]

I'm Spa... what? Oh. Good, I'll order this.

Seriously, at 5000 units, surely we expect this to last a bit? I'd still like to put off placing my huge order until Spartacus is announced as well.

That should be the same size as the old DVD-A audio cases. Just slightly larger than a jewel case.

Meaning it won't fit in my regular CD shelves. It'll have to go on the "special editions" shelf, together with the LOTR CEs.

[SF1_freeze]

I so hoped it would be The Motion Picture. I don't enjoy Giacchinos score a bit, in fact i thought it was a big dissapointment

[Mark Olivarez]

I forgot to put 2009 in the title.


I kept refreshing Varese's site and when I saw Star Trek I thought it was TMP.

Damn you Olivarez, I thought the same!

Well if the rumors are true you may have your wish granted soon.

Are there really rumors of TMP coming? Did I miss something?

Right now the rumors are circulating, don't ask me where they started I have no idea, that Star Trek TMP & Star Trek V are next on the release schedule.

LaLaLand is the label that is supposedly releasing them.


Like I said these are just rumors with no substantial proof. But it seems to be picking up steam.

[Trent Bennett]

I can't believe the continuing bitch fest on FSM over this release. If people are that unhappy about it then they shouldn't buy the damn thing (more for us) and need to quit acting like a spoiled little bitch because Spartacus, Family Plot or some other score wasn't released that they were hoping for.

[OneBuckFilms]

Mark,

If those rumours are true: my poor wallet

But my Ears will love it

[Hedji]

I'm a bit partial to presentation on the FSM Trek discs, and I wish any future Trek 1-6 releases could be done by them.

[Richard Penna]

Right now the rumors are circulating, don't ask me where they started I have no idea, that Star Trek TMP & Star Trek V are next on the release schedule.

What about IV?

I say that in a jokey and highly Trek-ignorant tone based on II and III having just come out. I don't even know who wrote that one...

Anyway, I'd be hard pushed to buy any further Trek scores, and the only two Goldsmith ones that I like (First Contact, Insurrection) satisfy me completely in OST form.

[Romão]

It's always nice to see scores get complete treatment, and gives hope for a lot of expansions of not so old scores. I won't buy this, as I'm not particularly fond of the score, but I hope this release trend keeps up.

[Mark Olivarez]

It wouldn't surprise me to see Intrada or Varese do Star Trek IV & VI.

Leonard Rosenmann scored IV by the way.

What concerns me is what MV Gerhard said about Star Trek Generations, First Contact and Insurrection. GNP owns the rights in perpetuity.

I would guess Varese still holds the rights to Nemesis.


But for all we know Lukas could have snatched up all the Trek scores that were available for FSM to release.

[Richard Penna]

It's a bit hard to tell whether it's the start of a new trend, or Varese just buckled/thrived under the demand.

Does at least indicate that the outdated reuse fee system can be twisted into cooperation.

[Datameister]

Yep. Regardless of the specifics, it's yet another indication that we're living in a very good time of change for film score albums...if not a very good time for film scores! (This score being one of the exceptions, of course, even though it can't compare to vintage Williams.)

[Mark Olivarez]

I'm guessing this is a case of the original album selling well enough, Giacchino's wish for more music to be released, the success of the film and Robert Townson having his finger on the pulse of the film score community.

[fommes]

I'm still very excited about this release. Now every worthy Star Trek release has been expanded! (Hehehehe...)

[Trent Bennett]

I agree with the recent posts. Giacchino's Star Trek definitely was one of the best selling score albums for Varese last year. I could see why they'd want to cash in on an expanded edition. I bet this thing will be sold out by a month's time.

Ya it'll be interesting to see who releases Star Trek Generations through Insurrection. I guess supposedly there were rumors that Dennis McCarthy was going to release a complete version for Generations through his label. Not sure if that'll hold true or not.

I don't suspect an expanded Nemesis score will come from another label other than Varese themselves. I do agree with Mark that FSM will probably release IV and VI since both were with MCA.

[Luke Skywalker]

Just in case it went unnoticed, someone at FSM said that 'The flask at hand' is the original Stat Trek titles music.
I dont know how he does know that but if its true, then its great

[Datameister]

Ohhhh...I remember Chris Tilton (I think) mentioning that the original logo cue was tracked into that scene (which features Courage's four-note theme), so that'd make sense. Though it's shorter than I'd expect it to be...

[Mark Olivarez]

Normally Varese's liner notes for their club releases don't go into too much detail but I hope these do.

[Trent Bennett]

I'm hoping "Galaxy's Worst Sushi Bar" is "Nero's Story". If it is, it seems a bit on the short side. I hope there won't be any micro edits with the unreleased material.

[Datameister]

I think that's indeed the cue for Nero interrogating Pike. As for the track time, I think the discrepancy was because of a mistake on my part, not because they omitted any material. I included some material in that cue from the features that seemed like it was supposed to be part of that cue, but I think I must have been wrong. Hopefully it'll turn up in one of the other unreleased cues, leaving "Galaxy's Worst Sushi Bar" unedited, and that mystery will be solved.

As far as that cue goes, though, what I'm really curious about is whether the electronically augmented erhu will be present. I suspect it will - I mean, it's got that weird statement of Nero's theme and everything, and it's sorta the melody. But it was dialed out of the film.

[gkgyver]

Ooooh, so torn right now ....

I could decide better if I remembered if any noteworthy music was unreleased. I love the soundtrack album, but I'm not sure if the unreleased bits are as good as those already on album.

I'm surprised Harry Potter hasn't been expanded yet, via iTunes exclusive tracks or anything like that.

Yeah, itunes, I can see that, with Williams being a computer freak and all.

21. I've Fallen and I Can't Beam Up! (1:51)

Giacchino loves his track titles ....

[Trent Bennett]

I think that's indeed the cue for Nero interrogating Pike. As for the track time, I think the discrepancy was because of a mistake on my part, not because they omitted any material. I included some material in that cue from the features that seemed like it was supposed to be part of that cue, but I think I must have been wrong. Hopefully it'll turn up in one of the other unreleased cues, leaving "Galaxy's Worst Sushi Bar" unedited, and that mystery will be solved.

As far as that cue goes, though, what I'm really curious about is whether the electronically augmented erhu will be present. I suspect it will - I mean, it's got that weird statement of Nero's theme and everything, and it's sorta the melody. But it was dialed out of the film.

That makes sense.

I'm also hoping " Trekking Down The Narada" will have the unused statement of the main theme before the Enterprise emerges above Titan.

gkyver the unreleased bits are just as worthy. "Chutes and Matter" is by far the best action sequence for the score.

[Wojo]

What a Star Trek day! Between this and a daylong marathon of TNG on BBC America, wow!

[Datameister]

I'm also hoping " Trekking Down The Narada" will have the unused statement of the main theme before the Enterprise emerges above Titan.

I'm sure it will...the track appears to be long enough to accommodate the unreleased material used in the film, the unused statement of the main theme available through the DVD features, and a bit more unused music that we knew had to be there but that we didn't have yet.

gkyver the unreleased bits are just as worthy. "Chutes and Matter" is by far the best action sequence for the score.

I don't know if I agree that it's THE best action sequence, but it's excellent. Obviously, they attempted to assemble noteworthy tracks into a good listening experience for the original album, gkyver, but there's a lot of really good material that wasn't there, and pretty much all of it is on this release. If you like the OST, I would go for this.

[gkgyver]

LIKE the OST? It's one of the few soundtracks that I can listen to from start to finish without break or skipping something.

I still can't decide, but I'm sure my order will be out before my eyes close tonight ... damn you, Giacchino!