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The official Alexandre Desplat thread
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:00 PM
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:05 PM
You can really tell who cut their teeth on John Williams' mickey mousing style of film scoring when they lambaste a really good score for its apparent lack of themes, and don't wanna think outside the box.
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:07 PM
Mickey Mousing? John Williams? What are you talking about?
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:10 PM
What are you not understanding?
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:12 PM
Ultimatly....you!
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:16 PM
@Wojo: stop being facetious.
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 02:17 PM
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 10:11 PM
There are themes, and I would even go so far as to say they're memorable, but more in the sense that they're "easily remembered" rather than "worth remembering". They're very present, and are prominently featured throughout the soundtrack, but the real interest in that score is most definitely in the creative and effective orchestrations, not the melodies.No themes? Blech?
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 05:46 PM
Alexandre Desplat has replaced Alberto Iglesias on Roman Polanski's latest film Carnage
http://filmmusicreporter.com/2011/08/13/alexandre-desplat-scoring-roman-polanskis-carnage/
http://filmmusicreporter.com/2011/08/13/alexandre-desplat-scoring-roman-polanskis-carnage/
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 11:12 PM
Boo! Wasn't he finally arrested though?
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 11:12 PM
Innocent until proven guilty Koray...
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Posted 23 September 2011 - 01:38 PM
Varese will release Desplat's score to "Ides Of March" on November 1st:
http://www.varesesar...rch,-The/Detail
http://www.varesesar...rch,-The/Detail
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 06:50 PM
Nico Muhly being replaced by Desplat in "Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close"
18 hours ago from Muhly's Twitter:
"I am very pleased that Alexandre Desplat, whose music I adore, is replacing me on Extremely Loud."
18 hours ago from Muhly's Twitter:
"I am very pleased that Alexandre Desplat, whose music I adore, is replacing me on Extremely Loud."
Please, be more polite on the internet when you're talking to someone!
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 07:09 PM
Who's Desplat?
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 07:46 PM
18 hours ago from Muhly's Twitter:
"I am very pleased that Alexandre Desplat, whose music I adore, is replacing me on Extremely Loud."
If Muhly had his score thrown out, then this is a very classy fairplay act. If he hasn't written anything, he's being very nice as well.
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 08:06 PM
I'm not sure why it's news, though. Counting rejected scores, demos, unsolved titles, were' talking so far in 2011 45 to 50 replacements. Why's this one such a big deal?
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 08:58 PM
Nico Muhly made it to the initial posters for the film; he's also an extraordinarily talented guy, a fact to which my avatar will attest.
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 09:31 PM
I've only heard The Reader, and that's better than anything I've heard from Phillip Glass.
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 12:59 AM
All of Desplat's scores are starting to sound the same
Well most of them, there's a few exceptions
Well most of them, there's a few exceptions
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 01:10 AM
I was never a fan until The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button. He's developed his own style and sound quite nicely, in my opinion. He probably composes too much, but amongst a lot of average and pleasant scores there's a couple that he really knocks out of the park.
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 01:13 AM
I'm starting to regard Benjamen Button as an exception..also Ghostwriter
for the rest, maybe he writes too many of them, they all sound the same
for the rest, maybe he writes too many of them, they all sound the same
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 03:25 AM
“They all sound the same” is the ignorant man's excuse. Every composer's work sounds the same to those that don't really listen. He has an identifiable style and has been composing at least one great score every year for awhile.
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 05:25 AM
Who's Desplat?
He's the film music composer who yesterday won the best composer award in Ghent (Film Festival Ghent 2011) for the third (!) time in a row now.
Alex - fully realizing Steef's next question will be: "What's Ghent?"
Alex 2 - who likes the music of Desplat during the movie but not sure if his music can stand on its own
Alex 3 - wondering if Desplat's score for Potter is better than the other Potter scores
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 05:42 AM
You should listen to more Philip Glass. 1000 Airplanes on the Roof, "The Canyon," and his 2nd Piano Etude are especially good.I've only heard The Reader, and that's better than anything I've heard from Phillip Glass.
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:37 AM
I think Desplat is replacing everyother composer these days. It is more common news than that there is a world wide depression going on. But how long can he keep churning 10 scores a year without it affecting the quality of the music. I have to say his dramatic efforts already suffer from a bit of anonimity these days, the styles pretty much the light and breezy Desplat of waltzes and Benjamin Buttonish material.
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 02:35 PM
Does he sleep at all?
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 02:39 PM
I think Desplat is replacing everyother composer these days. It is more common news than that there is a world wide depression going on. But how long can he keep churning 10 scores a year without it affecting the quality of the music.
I wouldn't mind if, God forbid, one of Zimmer's upcoming scores were thrown out and Desplat was asked to replace it. That would be a welcome change.
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 02:52 PM
Well if you put it that way...
I think Desplat is replacing everyother composer these days. It is more common news than that there is a world wide depression going on. But how long can he keep churning 10 scores a year without it affecting the quality of the music.
I wouldn't mind if, God forbid, one of Zimmer's upcoming scores were thrown out and Desplat was asked to replace it. That would be a welcome change.
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 02:54 PM
I like themes 
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:35 PM
I have to say his dramatic efforts already suffer from a bit of anonimity these days, the styles pretty much the light and breezy Desplat of waltzes and Benjamin Buttonish material.
This one is a nice change of pace:
You wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing "Subtle Plans Are Here Again."
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:42 PM
Interesting, a bit different Desplat. Like some of the theorbo music for Lovegood from HP DH part 1 but with a more modern edge. Not bad.
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 08:48 PM
LOL! No.All of Desplat's scores are starting to sound the same
Most of his scores sound pretty distinctive to me; it's just that you're not familiar with them - and how many have you heard this year? Besides the one linked to above, Tamara Drewe is another that would sound "different" for instance.
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Posted 25 October 2011 - 01:39 AM
City of Prague Philharmonic butchered Desplat's "Obliviate" cue for DH1:
At least there's no need for a DH1 re-recording...
At least there's no need for a DH1 re-recording...
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 03:41 PM
He is OK, nothing incredible about his writing, but he is not terrible either. His work for the last 2 HP movies was OK. I was happy to not been jarred out of the film by some terrible Hooper music.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 04:06 PM
His Harry Potter scores are no where near his best work.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 04:14 PM
His Harry Potter scores are no where near his best work.
Agreed, but I was never really blown away by his work. Just my opinion.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 08:55 PM
His Harry Potter scores are no where near his best work.
Yes on Part 2, but no on Part 1. Every time I listen to Part 1, I find something new and exciting to discover. Sort of like Desplat's Golden Compass score or his dramatic scores like Coco Avant Chanel, Lust, Caution and New Moon.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 05:09 AM
Desplat finished his replacement score on Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close last week. He wrote and conducted 80 minutes of score in little under a month -- that sounds incredibly draining. Then again, it's peanuts compared to the timeframe JNH had to compose his replacement score for King Kong.
http://www.deadline.com/2011/11/hammond-alexandre-desplat-is-music-to-oscars-ears/
I can't believe Desplat has scored this many films in a single year. While he only did the theme for My Week With Marilyn, SEVEN films has to be some sort of record.
He needs a well-deserved rest. Get some time to recuperate and have family time.
http://www.deadline.com/2011/11/hammond-alexandre-desplat-is-music-to-oscars-ears/
I can't believe Desplat has scored this many films in a single year. While he only did the theme for My Week With Marilyn, SEVEN films has to be some sort of record.
He needs a well-deserved rest. Get some time to recuperate and have family time.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 06:04 AM
If I remember correctly he composed Firewall in 10 days.
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