#3401
Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:51 AM
Karol
#3402
Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:05 AM
That's because Raimi had temp tracked the scene with music from Hellraiser and could not let go of it so Young had to emulate his previous score quite closely. I remember Young specifically mentioning this in one interview.The "Birth Of Sandman" which a lot of people believe to be a highlight of the score was predictable and sounded like something right out of Young's Hellraiser.
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#3403
Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:11 AM
Karol
#3404
Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:51 AM
#3405
Posted 23 May 2012 - 02:51 PM
That's because Raimi had temp tracked the scene with music from Hellraiser and could not let go of it so Young had to emulate his previous score quite closely. I remember Young specifically mentioning this in one interview.
I think Young had to do that several times. He did it for his replacement "Runaway Train" cue and the reactor-related scenes in Spider-Man 2, not just the Birth of Sandman cue in SM-3. I still liked the Sandman cue, even though Young followed the temp-track. It was a beautiful scene.
#3406
Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:09 PM
its good, its very good.
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#3407
Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:42 PM
The Lord of the Rings Special Collector's Edition: The Fellowship of the Ring: Complete Archival Edition - Howard Shore
What the fu...?
'Forget the notes!' - Hans Zimmer, June 2013
#3409
Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:16 PM
'Forget the notes!' - Hans Zimmer, June 2013
#3410
Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:22 PM
Incanus here is another 1$ or whatever currency you were talking about.
John Williams sucks, he doesn't write with a quill pen, there is no emotion in pencil music ! Purcell is the man !Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.
#3411
Posted 24 May 2012 - 03:32 AM
#3412
Posted 24 May 2012 - 04:42 AM
#3413
Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:35 AM
It certainly has the time and place well established but also captures the spirit of the story. I love how much life and positive youthful energy it exudes. This score should get a complete release if possible being from the period when Williams really started establishing himself in Hollywood. No wonder Spielberg was inspired by this.The Reivers, one of Williams's most colorful and ebullient scores, spans the distance between the ruggedly down-home and the swooningly romantic, with nary a dull moment in between.
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#3415
Posted 24 May 2012 - 03:19 PM
robin hood - andy price
I actually hadn't heard much about price until a couple of days ago when a friend mentioned him. this wasn't too bad, actually. could someone recommend me some other stuff he's done?
He has just done a few documentaries here and there, and Law & Order UK version, but this wasn't released on CD. Robin Hood is his only work that is commercially available. And the score for season 2 is easily my favourite TV series score EVER, MAN! I mean, WOMAN! (but, unfortunately, it hasn't been released, and that pisses me off!). Season 1 also has a lot of great unreleased cues. If you liked the OST, you'll love the complete score!
'Forget the notes!' - Hans Zimmer, June 2013
#3416
Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:06 PM
It's my first listen. It's much better than expected. In every review i read that it was boring.
#3418
Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:34 PM
I like everything about the score BUT Young's handling of Elfman's Spider-Man theme. It just doesn't glue well with his own material.
Karol
Actually, I think the uses of the Spider-Man theme are really chilling and in places more entertaining than Elfman's own. After all, if there is nothing else to get out of SM 3, you'll definitely get entertainment.
I for one always thought Elfman's contributions for the first two films were pretty forgettable. I never had even an inkling of desire to listen to them outside the films.
Wow.
For me, they are easily in the Top 10 of Elfman's best ever works. The first at least.
Doc Ock's eight note theme is awesome, so wonderfully fitting for an over the top comic book villain, and not so overly dramatic.
I miss these tongue in cheek themes that don't take themselves so serious in modern superhero films.
"You think they wear those tight-fitting clothes just so some other bride can say 'Gee your hips look succulent'? The good-looking ones know we're looking, they love us to be looking, and god bless 'em, they're carrying the rest of their sex!" - Al Bundy
#3419
Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:40 AM
I guess I should check those Spidey scores again then. If I remember correctly those main themes were something I wasn't too impressed by the first time I heard the scores. Elfman is very hit and miss for me in general.
I for one always thought Elfman's contributions for the first two films were pretty forgettable. I never had even an inkling of desire to listen to them outside the films.
Wow.
For me, they are easily in the Top 10 of Elfman's best ever works. The first at least.
Doc Ock's eight note theme is awesome, so wonderfully fitting for an over the top comic book villain, and not so overly dramatic.
I miss these tongue in cheek themes that don't take themselves so serious in modern superhero films.
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#3420
Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:32 AM
#3421
Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:37 AM
I really enjoyed both of these works. You can hear a lot of what would influence later music, especially film music, in Rite of Spring. And as much as I hate to admit it, the clearest link is with Star Wars. There are at least two passages taken directly from the Rite. The Firebird Suite is great--I have the entire ballet and I must admit, I usually I don't listen to more than the last half of the work, so this suite will be a good way to save space on my iPod!
Poltergeist:
While I don't think I will ever love this score as much as many Goldsmith fans do, there are some really great moments. I can hear a lot of Star Trek TMP. And the use of Dies Irae is pretty cool.
1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
#3422
Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:18 PM
It's one of my favorite Elfman scores!
Same! I have fond memories of ripping the DVD's iso to CD-R and wearing that out.
#3423
Posted 27 May 2012 - 10:49 AM
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#3424
Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:32 PM
War Horse by John Williams: This is one score I have been regularly returning to this past spring. There is such profound beauty in this score mixed with heartbreaking poignancy and simply classic Williams touch that speaks equally to both heart and mind. In the film the music is often left to sing alone and support the scenes and images without dialogue and as a pure listening experience it speaks just as eloquently. It feels heartwarmingly familiar, Williams' long time fans recognizing his sound and stylistics but he shapes another new musical world of its own with his skills at melody, orchestration and emotionally honest writing.
Williams ruthlessly manipulates his listeners with hokey, syrupy writing that is anything but honest!
#3425
Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:36 PM
#3426
Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:56 PM
Oh Hlao-roo always the cynic. Obviously Williams should have left the entire film unscored so the honesty could come out in raw form and not manipulate our feelings and perceptions of what the film is. How dare they do that in films even in these enlightened days!
War Horse by John Williams: This is one score I have been regularly returning to this past spring. There is such profound beauty in this score mixed with heartbreaking poignancy and simply classic Williams touch that speaks equally to both heart and mind. In the film the music is often left to sing alone and support the scenes and images without dialogue and as a pure listening experience it speaks just as eloquently. It feels heartwarmingly familiar, Williams' long time fans recognizing his sound and stylistics but he shapes another new musical world of its own with his skills at melody, orchestration and emotionally honest writing.
Williams ruthlessly manipulates his listeners with hokey, syrupy writing that is anything but honest!
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#3427
Posted 27 May 2012 - 05:45 PM
Oh Hlao-roo always the cynic. Obviously Williams should have left the entire film unscored so the honesty could come out in raw form and not manipulate our feelings and perceptions of what the film is. How dare they do that in films even in these enlightened days!
War Horse by John Williams: This is one score I have been regularly returning to this past spring. There is such profound beauty in this score mixed with heartbreaking poignancy and simply classic Williams touch that speaks equally to both heart and mind. In the film the music is often left to sing alone and support the scenes and images without dialogue and as a pure listening experience it speaks just as eloquently. It feels heartwarmingly familiar, Williams' long time fans recognizing his sound and stylistics but he shapes another new musical world of its own with his skills at melody, orchestration and emotionally honest writing.
Williams ruthlessly manipulates his listeners with hokey, syrupy writing that is anything but honest!
Indeed! Williams heavy-handedly telegraphs every sentiment, demonstrating zero respect for the intelligence of the audience.
#3428
Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:45 PM
#3429
Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:58 PM
This is probably heresy, but Williams in mannered professional mode has never done much for me, at least in large doses (it's why I prefer the Anthology discs for the OT). But when he's having fun like he is here, it's hard to do better.
#3430
Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:07 PM
Do you just write something normal and use the thesaurus to replace every word with the one that'll get you the most points in Scrabble, or do you talk that obtusely in real life?
Thesaurus.com
#3431
Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:58 PM
#3432
Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:09 PM
robin hood - andy price
I actually hadn't heard much about price until a couple of days ago when a friend mentioned him. this wasn't too bad, actually. could someone recommend me some other stuff he's done?
He has just done a few documentaries here and there, and Law & Order UK version, but this wasn't released on CD. Robin Hood is his only work that is commercially available. And the score for season 2 is easily my favourite TV series score EVER, MAN! I mean, WOMAN! (but, unfortunately, it hasn't been released, and that pisses me off!). Season 1 also has a lot of great unreleased cues. If you liked the OST, you'll love the complete score!
thank you, boalie. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a release of the season 2 score then.
#3433
Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:19 AM
Do you just write something normal and use the thesaurus to replace every word with the one that'll get you the most points in Scrabble, or do you talk that obtusely in real life?
This
I think nonpareils are among the most boring candy ever made.
I actually like this candy
~Renovia
Ah music, a magic beyond all we do here. ~ Albus Dumbledore
#3434
Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:59 AM
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#3435
Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:54 AM
I'm still waiting for the CD release, but I've played through the game 3 times so I can say it's probably one of the best scores of the year so far.
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
#3436
Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:06 AM
And yes it is a really great listening experience on its own but Wintory also capturing the atmosphere of the game perfectly in his lyrically haunting music which is full of mysticism. As he said he wanted to avoid any specific ethnic setting his score borders on many yet the touches are subtle, a turn of phrase reminding me of Eastern musical scales here and another soon going into entirely another direction. It is like I guess the game is, a somewhat introspective experience.
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#3437
Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:08 AM
robin hood - andy price
I actually hadn't heard much about price until a couple of days ago when a friend mentioned him. this wasn't too bad, actually. could someone recommend me some other stuff he's done?
He has just done a few documentaries here and there, and Law & Order UK version, but this wasn't released on CD. Robin Hood is his only work that is commercially available. And the score for season 2 is easily my favourite TV series score EVER, MAN! I mean, WOMAN! (but, unfortunately, it hasn't been released, and that pisses me off!). Season 1 also has a lot of great unreleased cues. If you liked the OST, you'll love the complete score!
thank you, boalie. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a release of the season 2 score then.
Indeed, you should. Indeed, you should...
It's just Journey
I'm still waiting for the CD release, but I've played through the game 3 times so I can say it's probably one of the best scores of the year so far.
Don't you say that every time a new score comes out?
'Forget the notes!' - Hans Zimmer, June 2013
#3438
Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:11 AM
When did that series end? 2009? Do you think there is any chance for more music from the series soon? I would not mind but I don't get my hopes up.
robin hood - andy price
I actually hadn't heard much about price until a couple of days ago when a friend mentioned him. this wasn't too bad, actually. could someone recommend me some other stuff he's done?
He has just done a few documentaries here and there, and Law & Order UK version, but this wasn't released on CD. Robin Hood is his only work that is commercially available. And the score for season 2 is easily my favourite TV series score EVER, MAN! I mean, WOMAN! (but, unfortunately, it hasn't been released, and that pisses me off!). Season 1 also has a lot of great unreleased cues. If you liked the OST, you'll love the complete score!
thank you, boalie. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a release of the season 2 score then.
Indeed, you should. Indeed, you should...
Ars superior est vita hominum.
"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-
#3439
Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:17 AM
Hey man, if every score is better than the last one then that's totally possible.
I'm still waiting for the CD release, but I've played through the game 3 times so I can say it's probably one of the best scores of the year so far.
Don't you say that every time a new score comes out?
1. Nightwatch/Killer By Night - Johnny Williams and Quincy Jones 2. Diamond Head/Gone with the Wave - Johnny Williams/Lalo Schifrin 3. Mass - Leonard Bernstein 4. Bernstein with the New York Philharmonic - Leonard Bernstein
#3440
Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:18 AM
When did that series end? 2009? Do you think there is any chance for more music from the series soon? I would not mind but I don't get my hopes up.
Hey, they've been releasing X-Files complete scores like 10 years after the series ended! So, stop crushing my hopes! Hope is all I have left! Take that away from me, and all I can do is commit suicide!
Hey man, if every score is better than the last one then that's totally possible.
I'm still waiting for the CD release, but I've played through the game 3 times so I can say it's probably one of the best scores of the year so far.
Don't you say that every time a new score comes out?
If that was the case, we could finally leave in peace and harmony...
'Forget the notes!' - Hans Zimmer, June 2013
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