Iris is a wonderful score that encompasses the various facets of Elfman's large career. It's great to hear him develop those ideas further. I don't think its quite as good as Seranada Schizophrana, but its still great stuff.
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Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:01 PM
GABY by MAURICE JARRE.
A nice melodic outing from jarre with an oriental slant. It's 80's flirring-synth-hell, but quite nice melodically.
You wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing "Subtle Plans Are Here Again."
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Eh.... this one didn't do much for me. However, I was doing a bunch of stuff while it was on, and I had to break it up into two different listening times (separated by a week). I remembering liking the earlier tracks, especially The Egg Travels and then a lot of the rest sounding the same. On my list of score to give another listen to someday.
Eh.... this one didn't do much for me. However, I was doing a bunch of stuff while it was on, and I had to break it up into two different listening times (separated by a week). I remembering liking the earlier tracks, especially The Egg Travels and then a lot of the rest sounding the same. On my list of score to give another listen to someday.
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Don Juan DeMarco - Michael Kamen
Oh... oh man. Dammit Kamen, why did you have to die?
Oh... oh man. Dammit Kamen, why did you have to die?
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Gooood...very goood...
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 05:12 AM
Good stuff although I still have hard time getting into Hugo for some reason.The Fly and Hugo by Howard Shore
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You should take a more concentrated listen next time as the score is pretty impressive and colorful affair. For me the only distraction is the African vocals and the score could do without them since Lebo M. always reminds me of the Lion King. Also JNH doesn't, perhaps out of necessity, use the wonderful main theme (The Egg Travels) very much in the score proper but some of the set pieces are thoroughly enjoyable.James Newton Howard - Dinosaur (OST)
Eh.... this one didn't do much for me. However, I was doing a bunch of stuff while it was on, and I had to break it up into two different listening times (separated by a week). I remembering liking the earlier tracks, especially The Egg Travels and then a lot of the rest sounding the same. On my list of score to give another listen to someday.
Yes it is sad when you think how much he still could have contributed to music. As a composer when he was inspired it was a joy to hear and experience.Don Juan DeMarco - Michael Kamen
Oh... oh man. Dammit Kamen, why did you have to die?
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Good stuff although I still have hard time getting into Hugo for some reason.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 05:33 AM
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 11:29 AM
James Newton Howard - Dinosaur (OST)
Eh.... this one didn't do much for me. However, I was doing a bunch of stuff while it was on, and I had to break it up into two different listening times (separated by a week). I remembering liking the earlier tracks, especially The Egg Travels and then a lot of the rest sounding the same. On my list of score to give another listen to someday.
It's not among my absolute favourites of JNH. I don't actually find the main theme particularly memorable, so the middle part of The Egg Travels is the more interesting bit (the percussion at the start of that cue also seems to go on forever). There are some good highlights in the rest of the score, but marred by a few 'misjudgements' - Breakout for example. I don't particularly like the counterpoints he uses for most of that cue, although it does end in pretty spectacular fashion.
I tried listening to the promo once and it just dragged.
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I think Dinosaur suffers from what I would call JNHs setpiece syndrome, where he relies more on the individual setpiece melodies and devices and forgets the main theme of the score for long periods of time. It happens elsewhere like in Water World where the heroic theme appears a scant few times and most of the album relies on individual moods and action set pieces which diminishes overall thematic unity and I think memorability. Even though it might be a crass generalization it seems like he has started writing more fully thematically driven scores at the turn of the 2000's although there are some of those in his prior output (e.g. Wyatt Earp). Whether it was due to some insistence by film makers or his own development I heartily welcome it.
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Sherlock Holmes by Hans Zimmer
Fresh, fun score, and I feel his strongest work of the past 3 or 4 years.
Fresh, fun score, and I feel his strongest work of the past 3 or 4 years.
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Fresh, fun score, and I feel his strongest work of the past 3 or 4 years.
I actually just watched Sherlock Holmes last week for the first time ( behind the times iknow!) And was surprised by the score...I agree with you.
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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:45 PM
Carter Burwell - Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 1
I really like how more warmer and harmonic Burwell's score is, compared to his score for the first film. He does a more neater and smoother integration of his earlier sound and Desplat's classical sound -- and Bella's Lullaby is better arranged throughout. Like Desplat's score for the second film, it does a lot of heavy lifting in the film itself. "Bella Reborn" is the best cue in the album, and it gives weight to the final scene in the film.
I really like how more warmer and harmonic Burwell's score is, compared to his score for the first film. He does a more neater and smoother integration of his earlier sound and Desplat's classical sound -- and Bella's Lullaby is better arranged throughout. Like Desplat's score for the second film, it does a lot of heavy lifting in the film itself. "Bella Reborn" is the best cue in the album, and it gives weight to the final scene in the film.
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After missing it the first time around, I finally caught up with "The Incredibles". This is a briliant bon-bon of a score, rich in orchestration, melody, and utter class! There's a little Horner, here, and a lot of Barry, there, but it all adds up to a very satisfying listen. I'd say that this score is incredible, but that would just be a cliche, wouldn't it..?
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Where do you hear Horner in that score?
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There was a descending motif (first heard in "Brainstorm"), but I coludn't tell you exactly where. I'll listen to it again, and let you know.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:55 PM
You can hear some shards of Horner in a few Giacchino's works. John Carter would be the most obvious example.
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Really? What parts of John Carter do you think sound like Horner?
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 04:22 PM
Both John's and Dejah's themes. The first one more than the other one. I'm not saying it's a rip-off but I just can't help hearing this:
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Hmmm, interesting.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 04:25 PM
Listen to the track I posted in my updated post.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 04:49 PM
I can hear some superficial similarities but they are different enough to not come close to being considered a ripoff imho
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 04:56 PM
I never said it's a rip-off. I just said I hear Horner in there.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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I know you didn't, I didn't mean to imply you did, sorry
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I don't hear the Horner similarities...better get my ears checked
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Listening to Spartacus, Now this is how all Mono music should sound.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:12 AM
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The Shadow by Jerry Goldsmith
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"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-
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I would like to say I listened to Johnny Mandel's score to Deathtrap but that's a dream I'll never realize.
OH God, Joe is posting again, someone hand me my pills!
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 05:46 PM
There's no need to be sorry.I know you didn't, I didn't mean to imply you did, sorry
Die Hard for me today. It is a brilliant score and very apt sub-title for me life lately.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Birdman of Alcatraz -- Bernstein
Beautiful. Intimate. Woodwinds.
Beautiful. Intimate. Woodwinds.
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John Goldfarb, Please Come Home:
Overall the score is a little to distracted for my taste, but there are some great moments. The love theme, and a few tracks work as standalone tracks. My favorite is "King Fawz Feast," for the awesome combination of Irish and Arabic music. I wish there was a soundtrack release for this score back in 1965, because if so maybe Williams would have expanded some of the random ideas into more listenable tracks. Of particular interest is the silent movie pastiche stuff--that always sounds really cool, and I'd love to hear a more fleshed out version (or a high quality recording of the piano silent movie pastiche that Williams wrote for hte Boston Pops one time).
Overall the score is a little to distracted for my taste, but there are some great moments. The love theme, and a few tracks work as standalone tracks. My favorite is "King Fawz Feast," for the awesome combination of Irish and Arabic music. I wish there was a soundtrack release for this score back in 1965, because if so maybe Williams would have expanded some of the random ideas into more listenable tracks. Of particular interest is the silent movie pastiche stuff--that always sounds really cool, and I'd love to hear a more fleshed out version (or a high quality recording of the piano silent movie pastiche that Williams wrote for hte Boston Pops one time).
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John Goldfarb, Please Come Home:
Overall the score is a little to distracted for my taste, but there are some great moments. The love theme, and a few tracks work as standalone tracks. My favorite is "King Fawz Feast," for the awesome combination of Irish and Arabic music. I wish there was a soundtrack release for this score back in 1965, because if so maybe Williams would have expanded some of the random ideas into more listenable tracks. Of particular interest is the silent movie pastiche stuff--that always sounds really cool, and I'd love to hear a more fleshed out version (or a high quality recording of the piano silent movie pastiche that Williams wrote for hte Boston Pops one time).
Most positive review of John Goldfarb ever!! LOL. I agree with your points, an album would have been great...but alas...
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The Mission (Amazing Stories) is on now. This riveting 30 minutes always make an appearance in my top JW scores. It has some of JW's best dramatic music and one of his greatest finales ever.
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:23 PM
John Carter and The Amazing Spider-Man. So far the only true good things to come out this year. At least in the big-budget department.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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John Carter and The Amazing Spider-Man. So far the only true good things to come out this year. At least in the big-budget department.
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I'd probably add Journey 2 to the list. But other than those, I agree that there really wasn't much this year.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 05:12 AM
Another of my favourite Bernstein scores. The album is a magical experience from the first note.Birdman of Alcatraz -- Bernstein
Beautiful. Intimate. Woodwinds.
Yes those two scores have been the most impressive scores released in the blockbuster department. Journey 2 is enjoyable but I feel that it lacks a certain kind of gravitas (as much as there is gravitas in the summer blockbuster world) and true memorability.
John Carter and The Amazing Spider-Man. So far the only true good things to come out this year. At least in the big-budget department.
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I'd probably add Journey 2 to the list. But other than those, I agree that there really wasn't much this year.
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