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[Luke Skywalker]

yay!

[Trent Bennett]

Alrighty ladies and gents I finally grabbed the right 3.5mm dual adapter that I needed to hook my PS3 audio cable to my computer. I don't know if I'll be doing any recording tonight. I haven't been feeling well all day, stomach has been on the queezy side. So I've just been taking it easy. If I feel better tomorrow I'll definitely do the recording then.

[Luke Skywalker]

I just saw this on the force.net (a link to star wars.com site), about the last chapter of the ROTS making of book, not included on it because the book has to be sent to the published before the film was done.It has much information about Williams and the score. i think the pdf was released on 2005 already since some things and dialogues feel familiar (as in 'i have read this already')

But just in case, here it is:

http://www.starwars....inalchapter.pdf

It seems that there are two versions of 'heroes collide' were recorded, one without drums and other with drums overdubs that were suggested during sessions.

so Maybe some of those drums and the likes overlays were composed and recorded by Williams, and not some work od a sound editor...

[Trent Bennett]

That's most likely the case. Anyways today I begin recording the music. So I won't be doing anything on my computer to make sure I get perfect recordings. Be back soon!

[Henry Buck]

"It's certainly the way to go," Williams agrees, and asks, "How close are we to the killing of the children?"

[Luke Skywalker]

yeah out of context it sounds rather creepy.

I'm getting the TFUII for PC as we speak... lets hope for reabable music files....though we would already know if that was the case.

Still i can make my 'crappy' recordings until a true rip is executed.

[Trent Bennett]

Okay been going through the game, recording as I go. I'm very irritated you can't fully mute the voices and sound effects in this game. The first TFU allowed you to do so, wonder why they changed it for this one.

For AOTC so far I've heard...

1: The first 45 seconds or so for the cue "Meeting Of Anakin and Padmè" (aka Requited Love). This does have some of Kota's and Starkiller's voice but it's unavoidable, see above for explanation.

2: Nearly the entire piece for "Zam The Assassin". It also includes the statement of Shmi's theme.

3: I believe the true clean ending for "The Arena".

For ROTS I have heard...

1: A good chunk of the opening action for "The Death Of Dooku". You still need rear channel German rips for the actual two opening bars then another section before it goes back into the clean material from the first TFU game. I'll admit this piece I didn't hear last time when I played the level it featured. Probably because I was tired and didn't register with me.

2: A clean opening for "Palpatine's Seduction".

Okay that's it for the reports. Hopefully actual rips of this game will reveal these pieces clean and free of sfx and or voices. Anyways, back to recording I go.

[Jacob]

Okay been going through the game, recording as I go. I'm very irritated you can't fully mute the voices and sound effects in this game. The first TFU allowed you to do so, wonder why they changed it for this one.

To thwart bootleggers?

[king mark]

PC rip is out

OMG the entire unreleased section of Anakin's Dark Deeds (It Can't Be) + the ending dark fanfare with no distortion .oh yeah! That's about 4 minutes of new music right there

i'm only a few cues in but there seems to be a shitload of new stuff

[Faleel]

i wish the track names were a bit more informative lol

[Trent Bennett]

Here's the list I just got done typing up for the PC rips. I didn't bother listing any TFU material UNLESS it contained Prequel stuff.

01
End Credits TFU 2 material

02
End Credits
ROTS: It Can't Be

03
AOTC: Padmé Falls
ROTS: They're Coming Around
TPM: Droid Fight
ROTS: Grievous And The Droids

04
ROTS: They're Coming Around
TPM: Droid Fight
ROTS: Grievous And The Droids
AOTC: Padmé Falls

05
AOTC: Padmé Falls

14
TPM:
AOTC: Meeting Of Anakin and Padmé
ROTS: Birth Of The Twins

19:
AOTC: Zam The Assassin

23:
ROTS: I Am The Senate
ROTS: Be Careful Of Your Friend

26:
AOTC: Inspecting The Army
ROTS: Revisiting Padmé

29:
ROTS: Palpatine's Seduction (Clean Opening)
AOTC: Zam The Assassin

31:
ROTS: Dialogue With Mace
TFU 2: ?
ROTS: Dialogue With Mace
AOTC: The Library Scene
ROTS: Dialogue With Mace (Clean Ending)

34:
ROTS: Rolling With Grievous (Clean Opening)
TFU 2: ?

40:
ROTS: Palpatine's Big Pitch
ROTS: News Of The Attack
ROTS: Be Careful Of Your Friend

49:
ROTS: Immolation Scene

71:
ROTS: They're Coming Around

76:
AOTC: Yoda Strikes Back
TPM: The Sith Spacecraft
ROTS: Count Dooku's Entrance
AOTC: Chase Through Coruscant (Part 2)

134:
AOTC: Spying On The Separatists
AOTC: Interview With Jango

135:
AOTC: Interview With Jango

144:
ROTS: Goodbye, Old Friend
ROTS: Scenes and Dreams
AOTC: Zam The Assassin

149:
ROTS: I Am The Senate
TFU 2: ?
ROTS: Bail's Escape
ROTS: Fighting Wigh Grievous (Ending)
TFU 2: ?

166:
ROTS: Bail's Escape
TPM: Tentacles
AOTC: Bounty Hunter's Pursuit (Unreleased)

170:
AOTC: The Chase Through Coruscant

171
ROTS: I Am The Senate
TPM: Coruscant Arrival
ROTS: I Am The Senate

188:
AOTC: Visiting The Prime Minster
TFU 2: ?

191:
ROTS: General Grievous
ROTS: Get Em, R2

196:
AOTC: Dooku Vs. Obi-Wan
TPM: Tremello Swell

197:
ROTS: I Am The Senate (Unused)
TFU 2: ?

202:
AOTC: Chase Through Coruscant (Part 1) Clean Ending

208:
ROTS: Boys Into Battle
ROTS: Death Of Dooku

212:
TPM: Battleship Destroyed
ROTS: I Am The Senate

216:
ROTS: I Am The Senate (Unused)

219:
ROTS: Death Of Dooku
ROTS: Goodbye Old Friend

223
TFU 2: ?
ROTS: News Of The Attack (Clean Ending)

230
AOTC: Yoda Strikes Back
TFU ?

232:
AOTC: Yoda Strikes Back

237:
ROTS: I Am The Senate (Unused)

240:
ROTS: Palpatine's Big Pitch

260:
AOTC: Thwarted Attempted
ROTS: Padmé's Visit
ROTS: Unknown Ending

261:
ROTS: Palpatine's Big Pitch

272:
AOTC: Anakin Changes (Ending)

279:
ROTS: Palpatine's Big Pitch

282:
ROTS: Moving Things Along (Film Mix)

286:
AOTC: This Is A Crisis

300:
AOTC: Thwarted Attempt
AOTC: Council's Confer

308:
ROTS: Fighting With Grievous

334:
ROTS: Fighting With Grievous (Opening)

338:
ROTS: Death Of Dooku

348:
ROTS: Obi-Wan Faces Droids

349:
ROTS: Get Em R2

356:
AOTC: Dooku Vs. Obi-Wan

359:
ROTS?

362:
ROTS: Good Guys Arrive (Ending)

387
ROTS: Fighting With Grievous (Weird ending)

403:
ROTS: Scenes and Dreams (portion before previously unreleased stuff)

452144910
ROTS: Death Of Dooku (Drum Roll)

[steb74]

Good work Trent!

[Faleel]

nice! its nice having "Padme Meets Anakin"/"Be Mindfull of Your Thoughts"'s opening clean

[king mark]

The big additions are so far:

AotC:
Meeting of Anakin and Padme
Interview with Jango


RotS:
Revisiting Padme: Most of it except Across the Stars quotes
Death of Dooku : Now almost complete
Anakin's Dark Deeds/It Can't Be: Complete including all the sequence where Obi Wan looks at the recordings
News of the Attack : segment
Be Careful of your Friend: missing segment (important musically)

[Trent Bennett]

I still ponder if Jesse Harlin reads this forum then if he can throws in bits we want into the games. The pieces that have surfaced so far are just to coincidental, at least for ROTS. Especially with the clean opening for "Fighting With Grievous".

[king mark]

Just made a perfect edit of Be Careful of your Friend complete.


I had a lot of problems converting 23.ogg to a workable format

[ggctuk]

I still ponder if Jesse Harlin reads this forum then if he can throws in bits we want into the games. The pieces that have surfaced so far are just to coincidental, at least for ROTS. Especially with the clean opening for "Fighting With Grievous".

If that's so, I wonder if he could work in DOTF Instrumental (All of it) and the original AOTC Finale into his next game

[king mark]

We must have about 90% of the RotS complete score now

[ggctuk]

Well, I'm going to wager a guess that maybe they're deliberately including new music, especially in light of the fact that they may release the scores anyway, so maybe it's a taster. Of course, they can't make it too easy to get (IE line-in recording).

I mentioned DOTF... was there anything new for the instrumental in the game? I hate having to completely rely on rear channels for the instruments in the latter portion of the ROTS version. Or, if it did appear was it recycled from the PROXY/Maul theme from TFU1/BF2?

[Luke Skywalker]

i only heard the AOTC DOTF version.

[ZackR]

Nice work on the game breakdown! I have to say that an instrumental DotF is still one of my score holy grails.

...maybe some day. Great work though. You guys are for real.

[Kendal_Ozzel]

A lot of my edits I haven't touched in years. I only did some of the stuff from the first TFU. But I'm gonna try to do it all this time. So forgive me for being a little behind the times on some of my questions. But on file 191, "The Elevator Scene", the first 37 seconds... are there any loops or edits in there, or is that the way it's supposed to be?

Also, I love that we have almost all of "Interview with Jango" now! But there's, what, about 4 seconds missing between the beginning of file 135 and the piece from track 1 on the CD? I wonder if a DVD rip could help bridge the two... although the ambient noise in the scene makes me doubtful.

[Trent Bennett]

For regarding file 191 there are no loops or edits. That's exactly what was written and recorded. Only the first 10 seconds or so of the cue actually made it into the film. Of course there's still some material missing before it actually is supposed to segue into "The Elevator Scene". That first sequence (which is file 191) I called "General Grievous" then the second part I called it "The Elevator Scene".

Battlefront 2 has the true mix for "The Elevator Scene" with the over dub drums. The OST version of "The Elevator Scene" does not have the drums and they should be there, according to the sheet music.

For file 135, you do need the piece from track 1 of the OST as that's the opening of the cue. You will also need a couple of seconds from the rear channels off the DVD to bridge the two pieces.

[Luke Skywalker]

Just for the record. YOu cant turn off voice and sfx from the cutscenes. I put the level of thos to zero, and play a cutscene and everything is there, when i return to the sound options screen, voice and sfx are at 50% of volume, so they must have had made something rigged in the game code to prevent ripping...

But really the video files have no sound. Are the music files of the cutscenes in this rip? (maybe they are the 4 channel tracks)

Look for TFU2 original music, like the rendition of yoda's theme for example.

[ggctuk]

The drums are quiet enough to omit from the original source (I believe that it was said that the original mixes were 24 channels or something like that). It should be obvious as certain parts are also boosted in the video games (particularly the snare drums). Is "Enter Lord Vader" written with the drums and percussion included as well? Also, which file has the clean Arena ending? Or was that only in FMV?

EDIT: @ Luke - some cutscenes are indeed 4 channels. Makes opening them a pain in the rear.

[king mark]

I still don't use DVD rips (except for the rare exception where the music is in all the channels and no sfx)

I'd rather have a 90% complete score that sounds like something that could have been officially released than a 100% complete score that sounds like a bootleg.(I use complete scores with DVD rips as an editing guide only)

[Charlie Brigden]

I still don't use DVD rips (except for the rare exception where the music is in all the channels and no sfx)

I'd rather have a 90% complete score that sounds like something that could have been officially released than a 100% complete score that sounds like a bootleg.(I use complete scores with DVD rips as an editing guide only)

Agreed 100%

[king mark]

The amount of new music we got in The Force Unleashed 2 for RotS is not huge in absolute terms , but we still got about 50% of the music we were missing for the complete score,so in relative terms it's very significant. We have to remember, the less music were missing ,the less the chance that exact passage will turn up in a game

A lot of annoying gaps have been filled, and clean endings for most cues. It's close to sounding like a not quite complete leaked recording sessions.

[Trent Bennett]

Sometimes it's necessary to have rear channels especially in a cue like "Interview With Jango" in order to complete it with out any weird editing.

KM Jesse Harlin told me a long time ago via Myspace in PM that he has the sessions for the Prequels. Why we're only mostly getting film version UE style stuff for AOTC is beyond me. There are a few cues with clean endings though in Battlefront 2 and TFU 2.

Anyways...at least for ROTS they're definitely coming from the sessions.

[king mark]

Sometimes it's necessary to have rear channels especially in a cue like "Interview With Jango" in order to complete it with out any weird editing.

I try to find a way,even if I have to remove a note to make it sound ok. In this case I just faded out the OST in the previous cue leading into it. And used the game cue as a standalone cue .Sounds no worse than some of Williams microedits in the OST

anyways I think it sounds much more jarring to suddenly have a echo-y ,distorted rear channel rip with sound effects suddenly popping up

[ggctuk]

Sometimes it's necessary to have rear channels especially in a cue like "Interview With Jango" in order to complete it with out any weird editing.

KM Jesse Harlin told me a long time ago via Myspace in PM that he has the sessions for the Prequels. Why we're only mostly getting film version UE style stuff for AOTC is beyond me. There are a few cues with clean endings though in Battlefront 2 and TFU 2.

Anyways...at least for ROTS they're definitely coming from the sessions.

It may be that LucasArts don't have the sessions themselves but do have the AOTC UE. If Jesse Harlin has the sessions then he must have DOTF in instrumental form complete, or the AOTC finale. Didn't he work on Bounty Hunter's score? If I recall correctly that did not use the UE mix of AOTC but rather the originals.

[Trent Bennett]

I think Bounty Hunter was before Jesse joined Lucasarts.

[ggctuk]

Sorry, that was Jeremy Soule I meant. But I must wonder if somebody else at LA also has, or had, access to the recording sessions. Note how for TPM's score we're drawing from the same mixes first used in the TPM video game, before the release of the album? Why not replace the material? Although it should be clear that there is some replacement such as the new take for Take To Your Ships (which we still don't have in full). Some of it I believe is recording sessions (IE you can hear a clean opening to "The Homestead" in the video games despite the film and the album fading it in from the last note of "Tsuken Camp")

[Datameister]

I try to find a way,even if I have to remove a note to make it sound ok. In this case I just faded out the OST in the previous cue leading into it. And used the game cue as a standalone cue .Sounds no worse than some of Williams microedits in the OST

anyways I think it sounds much more jarring to suddenly have a echo-y ,distorted rear channel rip with sound effects suddenly popping up

I really shouldn't start this again, but that still makes absolutely no sense to me. I can't relate at all to mangling or removing perfectly good music simply because it's not 100% clean or in less-than-perfect sound quality.

That being said, I really only like to listen to DVD rips if I've edited them myself. If it's a score that I haven't edited, I tend to get a lot more distracted by the extraneous noise and the transitions.

[Trent Bennett]

That being said, I really only like to listen to DVD rips if I've edited them myself. If it's a score that I haven't edited, I tend to get a lot more distracted by the extraneous noise and the transitions.

That's how I am about the subject.

[Trent Bennett]

Just a small heads up when you guys redit "I Am The Senate". The pieces for that cue in TFU 2 need to be pitched by -1%. I noticed it when I was re-editing the better quality material and such into my previous edit. That's the only cue though I've noticed that.

Edit: I've placed that trail ending of 206 now...it's the ending for "The Elevator Scene". I'm such a ditz.

[lordskylark]

Also, if someone wants, I extracted all the channels out of the Force Unleashed II FMV -- no FMV files were included in the PC rip listed above (it uses 5.1 audio -- I removed two of the channels that never had music and converted the front L/R into one file and the rear L/R into a second file). There still is some SFX (not as much) in most of the tracks, but I am not as familiar with the music to know if there is anything new or not. But even if there was SFX, sometimes it can still show us what is missing from a track, or how something should be properly edited. PM me if are interested in having me upload these.

Andy

[lordskylark]

Public requests or upload announcements for unofficially released materials are not permitted. Thank you. - Mark.

Also, if someone has that new clean partial verison of the Max Reebo music that was recently released, I don't have that and would like it.

Thanks,
Andy

[king mark]

But the .ogg are the actual music files from the PC version ? The bitrate is already set so what's the point of having them in flac? (other than the ones we don't already have)

[Wojo]

TFU2 has OGG files? Huh. TFU1 only has BIK files that I can't decrypt.