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#1 John Crichton

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 12:06 AM

Carry on.

I don't know what, if anything, needed to be copied and pasted from the original thread. Original authors feel free to do so.
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Posted 14 October 2010 - 12:26 AM

In this case I think we should keep the old thread going

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 02:43 AM

The link to the old thread is still in the Forum Express for archival purposes. And as I said, any info that needs to be in this thread can be brought over. If no one wants to copy and paste it just PM me and I'll see if posts are worth moving. ;)

We're just keeping the 100 page rule consistent.
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Posted 14 October 2010 - 08:14 AM

I think we were talking about TPM last and discovering where things go in regards to what we didn't know like the piccolo jabs that begin Crash Landing. I'd love to know where the Tremolo Swell goes because I have a funny feeling it belongs in the Podrace.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 08:23 AM

I'm only interested to get files with new AotC or RotS music. Hope it will happen soon

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 12:44 PM

TFU2 comes out soon enough. Trent'll be on top of it.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 12:51 PM

Does the demo have any new music we can choke on for the time being?

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 01:10 PM

Couldn't tell you. The demo didn't come out for PC.

Can't you wait 12 days?

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 01:31 PM

I'd have to wait longer than that.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 02:09 PM

the subtitle of this thread is....very misleading. and it does not reflect what we talk here at all :P

i suggest erasing it.

I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 04:11 PM

the subtitle of this thread is....very misleading. and it does not reflect what we talk here at all :lol:

i suggest erasing it.

Humor...it is a difficult concept. It is not logical.
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Posted 14 October 2010 - 04:15 PM

you know... ist not humor..its blindness.


I read 'Episode II-Attack of the clones tracked cues'.

and i thought it was written because it was the original thread title from old (though i had never read it before today...)

my bad.

I hope Episode III is Called 'Revenge of the Sith'

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 04:25 PM

No worries. :lol: I had to do some kind of wordplay on the Ep. II title.
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Posted 14 October 2010 - 06:27 PM

Regarding the demo for The Force Unleashed 2, I watched a video of the game play footage and it seemed to have music that we all ready have.

Wojo is right I'll be on top of TFU 2. I'll be getting the PS3 version from Amazon the day of its release. That day I'll be going through the game with just the music going and recording the music as I play. Hopefully it won't be too long before the PS3 and PC rips are available.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 07:28 PM

I have 25 gigs of my hard drive occupied by TFU1 and I have absolutely no idea which BIK files, if any, contain the music. I know that the PS3 and PC rips of the music are online, but it would be easier for me to extract them myself. I'd imagine that I'd be in the same situation with TFU2.

Anyways, in a week or two I plan to take a virtual trip to Vegas anyways.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 07:32 PM

I have a bunch of older rips sitting on my hard drive that I forgot why I keep them.

There's about 25 minutes of still unreleased music from RotS...I hope we get a chunk of it with TFU2

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 07:39 PM

Ya I too am hoping we get a good chunk of the remaining music from ROTS with TFU 2. Hopefully they won't use the same portions of music from TFU 1 with this game.

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 09:40 PM

Since we have the entirety of the Phantom Menace score, I'm trying to puzzle together the complete cues list. Here is what we have so far (some of it deduced from other confirmed cue numbers:

1m1 Star Wars (Main Title)
1m2 The Arrival
1m3 Gas Leak
1m4 Droid Fight
1m5 Queen Amidala
1m6 The Droid Invasion
1m7 Introducing Jar Jar

3m10 Jabba Introduction
3m11 The Race Begins
4m01 [Title Unknown]
4m02 Anakin Defeats Sebulba

5m01 High Council Meeting
5m02 The Senate
5m03 Anakin's Test
5m04 The Chosen One
5m05 The Chosen One

6m05 Droid Battle
6m06 Up the Wire
6m07 Great Duel
6m07p2 Duel Continues


6M01 - Forest Mist (the cue number is a guess but since it's the first 6M, it seems logical)

I'm told this is the true Gungans March cue but I think that the Gungans March is actually part of "The Armies Face Off", scored as one cue. Jedi Power Battle supports this, as does BF2 (If you louden the beginning of the file featuring the entire second segment you can hear the fading chord from the last part in the opening timpani roll). So I wonder if "Forest Mist" refers to the second half of what we know as "War Plans".

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:16 PM

Gave up on doing TPM myself a long time ago, it's soooo complicated. Been relying on other people's updated edits!

RotS is actually fun to do

But it would be so cool if a miracle like HPSS happened and we could toss this thread forever and delete all those game files

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:40 PM

Lucas said they are considering all six complete scores to coincide with the Blu release didn't he?

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:48 PM

It's a rumor, according to the SW magazine people.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 12:05 AM

Have they even found the missing Sail Barge/Jabba Palace number that they couldn't locate "on time" for the release of the SE soundtracks in 97?

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 12:31 AM

I think it will happen soon. Lucas can't enjoy the press all around LOTR and their soundtracks.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 01:07 AM

You know what I'm tired of hearing about? The missing Sail Barge source cue. Fuck that cue..just give me all the Prequel music and RotJ in decent sound and I'll be happy

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 01:23 AM

You know what I'm tired of hearing about? The missing Sail Barge source cue. Fuck that cue..just give me all the Prequel music and RotJ in decent sound and I'll be happy


I actually agree. I could give a rats ass about the Sail Barge source cue. Most source music drives me nuts anyways and I always leave them out of my edits.

ggtuck are you sure "Forest Mist" is even a cue? I thought that was something that you made up? The "Gungan March" from the Ultimate Edition is nothing more than the percussion only from the first part of "The Armies Face Off". You can hear those drums in the actual cue itself. The only thing different they did was add that one horn for the film version piece.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 01:30 AM

You know what I'm tired of hearing about? The missing Sail Barge source cue. Fuck that cue..just give me all the Prequel music and RotJ in decent sound and I'll be happy



are you sure you would be happy? once you had all those cues besides?

and really the sail barge source cue was officially released awhile ago (though partially)

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The additional passage was interesting but not really something I would consider absolutely essential.

 


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Posted 15 October 2010 - 01:33 AM

I really want the ROTJ source music. The TOD palace music as well.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 01:33 AM

yes,I never cared about that specific cue.

But I've actually read some people saying they would prefer that one cue over all of the unreleased Prequel music

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 01:35 AM

KM, I think you have insulted Max Rebo. However, I completely agree with your statement.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 01:43 AM

for anbody who wants a portion of the ROTJ source cue it was partially released on the official soundboard at starwars.com

http://www.starwars....rds/#/?theme=34

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The additional passage was interesting but not really something I would consider absolutely essential.

 


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Posted 15 October 2010 - 01:54 AM

cool, that's good enough for ...what? 56 kbps??

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 02:02 AM


You know what I'm tired of hearing about? The missing Sail Barge source cue. Fuck that cue..just give me all the Prequel music and RotJ in decent sound and I'll be happy


I actually agree. I could give a rats ass about the Sail Barge source cue. Most source music drives me nuts anyways and I always leave them out of my edits.

ggtuck are you sure "Forest Mist" is even a cue? I thought that was something that you made up? The "Gungan March" from the Ultimate Edition is nothing more than the percussion only from the first part of "The Armies Face Off". You can hear those drums in the actual cue itself. The only thing different they did was add that one horn for the film version piece.


'Forest Mist' appears to be the first part of reel 6' including the original 'Gungan March'. It's followed by 'The Armies Face Off'.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 02:07 AM

yes,I never cared about that specific cue.

But I've actually read some people saying they would prefer that one cue over all of the unreleased Prequel music


Well no, I would rather entire JW scores before single tracks. But I would also rather have the original scores in some kind of Superman The Music style remastering and presentation, than the prequels at all.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 02:10 AM

cool, that's good enough for ...what? 56 kbps??



i thought you didnt care for the track? and now your saying that the "release" is bad quality?

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 02:13 AM

Well, I'd rather have it than not.


but leave it to Lucasfilm to toss us a snippet of unreleased music...in the worst possible quality

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 02:24 AM

I thought it was determined that piece came from the actual film stems since it's as long as it appears in the film.

'Forest Mist' appears to be the first part of reel 6' including the original 'Gungan March'. It's followed by 'The Armies Face Off'.


Hmm okay.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 02:31 AM

Definitely from the movie. But I find it hard to believe that missing material doesn't have a backup in some Lucas warehouse. It's got to be out there.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 02:38 AM

You know what I'm tired of hearing about? The missing Sail Barge source cue. Fuck that cue..just give me all the Prequel music and RotJ in decent sound and I'll be happy

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 03:29 AM

'Forest Mist' appears to be the first part of reel 6' including the original 'Gungan March'. It's followed by 'The Armies Face Off'.


I've been thinking more about this...I opened up track 14 of the OST and that piece does in fact go directly into the music for "Activate The Droids" (on the UE). So I wonder if the OST actually has it correct for the spot.

If it does though, I wonder how the hell the first part of "The Armies Face Off" go...

I'm listening to the music during the game play for TFU 2. In quite a few of the places it's nearly identical to the first TFU. Hopefully though it's just this first stage which is Kamino.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 08:28 AM


You know what I'm tired of hearing about? The missing Sail Barge source cue. Fuck that cue..just give me all the Prequel music and RotJ in decent sound and I'll be happy


I actually agree. I could give a rats ass about the Sail Barge source cue. Most source music drives me nuts anyways and I always leave them out of my edits.

ggtuck are you sure "Forest Mist" is even a cue? I thought that was something that you made up? The "Gungan March" from the Ultimate Edition is nothing more than the percussion only from the first part of "The Armies Face Off". You can hear those drums in the actual cue itself. The only thing different they did was add that one horn for the film version piece.


I'm certain Forest Mist is a cue, but I've just seen Jim Ware below me say that it is. As for the UE Gungan's March... that's just an insert with reverb over where the real March begins. It's a separate cue, but I still have no idea where it goes. It is heard cleanly, without the single horn blasts (A Ben Burtt addition, I'm sure) on Track 14, whcih brings us to...


'Forest Mist' appears to be the first part of reel 6' including the original 'Gungan March'. It's followed by 'The Armies Face Off'.


I've been thinking more about this...I opened up track 14 of the OST and that piece does in fact go directly into the music for "Activate The Droids" (on the UE). So I wonder if the OST actually has it correct for the spot.

If it does though, I wonder how the hell the first part of "The Armies Face Off" go...

I'm listening to the music during the game play for TFU 2. In quite a few of the places it's nearly identical to the first TFU. Hopefully though it's just this first stage which is Kamino.


Considering the Droid Invasion follows The Armies Face Off, followed by Tentacles, High Council Meeting Alternate, Darth Sidious and then the opening moments of DOTF, I wouldn't put too much stock in the OST's order. As I said I believe this is an insert piece. As to where it is to be inserted, I do not know. One theory of mine is that it preceeds Forest Mist and goes straight after War Plans, so we see the Gungans marching to battle before Sidious receives the news of the army, then Forest Mist kicks in with the Trade Federation Army responding. This theory also says that this is the Forest Mist piece, but I'm absolutely unsure of it.




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