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[Jason LeBlanc]

When I was at the movie theater last night I saw this cool poster for The Dark Knight Rises that I haven't seen posted here

[Koray Savas]

Out of curiosity: where did he say that?

Karol

I'm not sure if it's the same source as his, but Nolan more or less says the same in this article.

[crocodile]

When I was at the movie theater last night I saw this cool poster for The Dark Knight Rises that I haven't seen posted here

I did post it. But it disappeared.

Karol

[BloodBoal]

When I was at the movie theater last night I saw this cool poster for The Dark Knight Rises that I haven't seen posted here

Actually, it's already been posted, by Croc I think.

EDIT: This Croc dude is pissing me off.

[gkgyver]

Saw it for the first time now.
To be honest, it leaves me kind of cold.

Unexpected, really, because I loved Dark Knight.

[m0hawk]

TDKR's trailer is quite a different ball game from TDK's first theatrical trailer. TDK focused on what everyone was waiting for: The Joker. They shoved him in our faces, and we swallowed him up whole, and everyone was happy. Glad to see that they didn't do the same with Bane; movie audiences aren't exactly clamouring for him. This trailer gives us more of the "grand picture", and I'm VERY intrigued by what I see. They produced the mysterious vibe quite well!

[Quint]

This does not look as good as the previous two. The most jarring thing about this trailer is the abundance of broad daylight and the lack of Batman himself.

[Jason LeBlanc]

The 6 minute IMAX prologue has turned up on youtube in crappy quality

[Wojo]

This does not look as good as the previous two. The most jarring thing about this trailer is the abundance of broad daylight and the lack of Batman himself.

Batman is left on the run at the end of TDK. Showing him returned as Batman in the trailer would veer into spoiler territory.

[Quint]

Perhaps. I'd forgotten how TDK ended. You might have a point.

I suppose I'm just reminded of the fact that I didn't really like how they did that to the character at the end of the last movie.

[BloodBoal]

Who said Bane was incomprehensible?

[E.T. & Elliott]

Bane = buff terrorist in a mask, or will he have origins similar to the comics with the venom stuff and resulting super-strength? Maybe he'll just take steroids.

[Chaac]

I read that Bane in the film had an accident and needs the mask, or something in that style.

[Delorean90]

Yes, because of the constant pain from whatever happened, he receives a steady dose of anesthetic through the mask, thus making him at least partially impervious to pain.

[gkgyver]

Average prologue.

[shockwave]

James Earl Jones anyone?

Anyways it looks interesting and yeah I can barely understand Bane but I'm getting older and my hearing isn't what it once was...

[Wojo]

I'm only 30 and I feel I'm in the same boat. My hearing isn't great either. I couldn't understand half of what was said in Sherlock Holmes (the first one, haven't seen #2) and I know I missed a lot of the subtle dialogue in the Harry Potter movies.

Am I just biased against movies with heavy amounts of British accents? Maybe. Or maybe movie theaters need to invest more in making movies understandable for deaf and hard-of-hearing people more than they need to invest in 3D technology.

[Drax]

I'm only 30 and I feel I'm in the same boat. My hearing isn't great either. I couldn't understand half of what was said in Sherlock Holmes (the first one, haven't seen #2) and I know I missed a lot of the subtle dialogue in the Harry Potter movies.

Am I just biased against movies with heavy amounts of British accents? Maybe. Or maybe movie theaters need to invest more in making movies understandable for deaf and hard-of-hearing people more than they need to invest in 3D technology.

I went to see The Immortals last week and it was the first time in a cinema since I saw Air Force One where the sound was so loud, it was unbearable. Luckily, I had my earplugs with me (I never leave home without them these days), so I could block out the really harsh noise. It's really evidence of a poorly calibrated sound system if it's emitting so much distortion, the more sensitive audience members have to resort to blocking their ears (this is a reason why I avoid night clubs, dance floors and concerts). The 3-D was bad too.

As for the accents, have you seen Snatch?

[Quint]

I'm only 30 and I feel I'm in the same boat. My hearing isn't great either. I couldn't understand half of what was said in Sherlock Holmes (the first one, haven't seen #2) and I know I missed a lot of the subtle dialogue in the Harry Potter movies.

Am I just biased against movies with heavy amounts of British accents? Maybe. Or maybe movie theaters need to invest more in making movies understandable for deaf and hard-of-hearing people more than they need to invest in 3D technology.

Hey you stole my Quint destroying the planet avatar I made!

[Wojo]

Stole? You lost it. I rediscovered it on my hard drive -- OCD saves everything that looks cool or could be used again later -- but I wasn't quite sure that you realized that I had posted it since it never appeared in your sig. Now I'm certain.

[Koray Savas]

I'm only 30 and I feel I'm in the same boat. My hearing isn't great either. I couldn't understand half of what was said in Sherlock Holmes (the first one, haven't seen #2) and I know I missed a lot of the subtle dialogue in the Harry Potter movies.

Am I just biased against movies with heavy amounts of British accents? Maybe. Or maybe movie theaters need to invest more in making movies understandable for deaf and hard-of-hearing people more than they need to invest in 3D technology.

I went to see The Immortals last week and it was the first time in a cinema since I saw Air Force One where the sound was so loud, it was unbearable. Luckily, I had my earplugs with me (I never leave home without them these days), so I could block out the really harsh noise. It's really evidence of a poorly calibrated sound system if it's emitting so much distortion, the more sensitive audience members have to resort to blocking their ears (this is a reason why I avoid night clubs, dance floors and concerts). The 3-D was bad too.

If there's distortion, could just be that the volume was way too high. I was gonna say that the sound wheel could have been left open but quickly realized 35mm film is pretty much dead in theaters.

[Matt C]

Opening night IMAX shows in NY and LA are already sold out... six months in advance.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/opening-night-imax-versions-of-the-dark-knight-rises-already-sold-out-in-nyc-la/

Wow. If both regular theaters and IMAX showings are any indication, it looks like Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part 2's opening day and opening weekend records will be snatched away by Batman again.

[crocodile]

Karol

[Matt C]

A fun little timelapse video of 30+ people watching all 8 Batman films in one day:

http://www.craveonline.com/videos/original-series/182665-movie-marathoners-3-batathon

I'm not surprised which ranked the highest and lowest, but nice to see Mask of the Phantasm get the love it deserves.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Man, Neil really lowered the average for the Burton films!!!

[Matt C]

Man, Neil really lowered the average for the Burton films!!!

Well, not everyone loves the Burton films when they came out (and some only watched the Burton movies after they saw the Nolan films). Batman Returns is one of most overrated comic-book movies... ever. For me, it doesn't know what it wants to be -- it does a lot of things but it's not a entirely coherent whole. Batman, with all of its studio interference, feels better put together.

I'm glad Mask of the Phantasm got the love it deserves. Such a great Batman movie. And Batman 1966 is such a gleefully over-the-top comedic fest.

[BloodBoal]

Hans Zimmer Talks About The Dark Knight Rises Score... And when Hans Zimmer talks, people listen!

You have to see [a sequel] as an autonomous movie. Otherwise you will end up with all the things that are the worst thing about a sequel. Before I even set off on ‘Sherlock,’ and before Chris [Nolan] started shooting, I had an idea. I went to the Warner [Bros.'] music department and I said, ‘Have I earned the right yet to book the biggest, craziest orchestra for two days, and try this experiment for ‘”Dark Knight?”‘ And if it goes wrong, if I don’t like it or if Chris doesn’t like it, we can just pretend these two days never happened.

...

I had an idea of a different way of writing music, or a different way of getting an orchestra to perform music as well. And basically it worked out, and snippets of it are starting to appear in the trailer. And really I have 25 minutes of very, very radical, very different stuff.

[Quint]

The London Symphony Orchestra downed instruments and were instead given two spoons each. The entire score is played on spoons.

[KK.]

I was going to post this myself, but I'm letting you have a run at it Messenger

And of course! It's Zimmer trying something new...again!

The London Symphony Orchestra downed instruments and were instead given two spoons each. The entire score is played on spoons.

Sounds like someone needs an Oscar

[crocodile]

The London Symphony Orchestra downed instruments and were instead given two spoons each. The entire score is played on spoons.

Don't forget mixed cats and dogs chorus.

Karol

[indy4]

I respect Zimmer for venturing into some new territories. His one note Joker theme was very original and very effective, despite what some say. As a composer I love the guy. As an influence on film music, he's awful.

[Quint]

I respect Zimmer for venturing into some new territories. His one note Joker theme was very original and very effective, despite what some say. As a composer I love the guy. As an influence on film music, he's awful.

A refreshingly balanced comment on the man.

[KK.]

I disagree. These days, it seems that Zimmer is always trying to look for some "creative" new way to approach the score, but by putting all his focus onto that, he loses focus of the big picture. This is what happened with Inception, and it is essentially what happened to many of his scores last year. He brought it in guest performers and focused so much on collaborations and such, his scores were incredibly weak. POTC 4 was a horrifying disappointment and so was Sherlock 2 (with its awful mix).

Zimmer is a good composer with plenty of talent in him...but 2010 onwards has had very little output from him to fix his bad rep with critics.

[Quint]

Which falls in with the last part of Indy4's post...

[KK.]

Well that still makes Zimmer a weak composer on the basis of his recent work...(this kind of goes against how indy feels about him as a composer).

I personally love Zimmer but I feel as a composer, he's taking a turn for the worse. What the man needs to do (and I've said this many times before) is take on a solo project...

[BloodBoal]

I respect Zimmer for venturing into some new territories. His one note Joker theme was very original and very effective, despite what some say. As a composer I love the guy. As an influence on film music, he's awful.

The problem with Zimmer is that often acts like a sound designer, and he forgets that he should be first and foremost a composer (you know, a guy who writes "music"). When he doesn't forget that, he can be really damn good. But when he decides to go apeshit and try what he likes to call "something new", then it is the Zimmer I don't like...
"Something new" doesn't necessarily mean "something that sounds more like noise than music", Mr. Z.

[crocodile]

Not necessarily, you see. He's slowly going away from the dumbed down symphony and starts doing a much simpler things of his own. That's why I like Inception. He's good when he's not trying to do a symphonic score. That's not his forte.

Karol

[KK.]

He can do symphonic scores when he puts his mind to it. I believe he succeeded with the Da Vinci Code. I think BloodBoal has got it spot on. Zimmer tends to forget that his first duty is as a composer, instead he acts as a sound designer who focuses on bringing in countless (and often pointless) collaborations and looking really good for the media to get another shot of him "trying something new", and ultimately, his score loses focus.

[Michael]

Not necessarily, you see. He's slowly going away from the dumbed down symphony and starts doing a much simpler things of his own. That's why I like Inception. He's good when he's not trying to do a symphonic score. That's not his forte.

Karol

The Lion King and Prince of Egypt are amazing symphonic works, and those scores are mostly done by him.

I think it depends on how much he cares about the project. Before 2000, he seemed to care a lot more about each project, but now... Apart from the first Sherlock, it seems his heart is not in the right place. Maybe he never cared to give the Batman franchise good music, but good sound design.

[Romão]

I respect Zimmer for venturing into some new territories. His one note Joker theme was very original and very effective, despite what some say. As a composer I love the guy. As an influence on film music, he's awful.

I mostly agree with what you said, except for the original part