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[Marian Schedenig]

I'd say a good approach would be to put anything related to the novel in spoiler tags, and leave the rest uncensored. Between Sunday and whenever I watch the latest episode (usually Monday night), I stay clear of this thread anyway. Seems a sensible strategy.

[BloodBoal]

[Incanus]

Now that's awesome!

[KK.]

I'm totally buying that game!!!

But where's Winterfell on that board?

EDIT: Never mind...

[Incanus]

Left bottom corner beside the Wall of course.

[KK.]

Left bottom corner beside the Wall of course.

Wow...how did I miss that?!

And why is the North worth so little? Nvm...I can see why...

But Winter is Coming....

[BloodBoal]

[Incanus]

Another engrossing episode with a lot of great scenes and the plot advanced on new fronts as well. Not perhaps as fluid as the past two episodes but none the less one of the best of the series. Tywin Lannister keeps getting screen time, no surprise there, since he is simply captivating. Also nice parallel to Jaime Lannister in this episode, except his nostalgic chat had a more twisted ending. And no sexposition again, three times in a row! Man we are on a roll with this revelation that the series does not exactly need it in every episode to make it interesting. But I missed scenes with Stannis and his troop since people will soon forget he is alive if he does not show his face again soon! Kings need good PR to stay afloat!

But Daenerys keeps plodding on. Get a move on woman!

[Alexcremers]

Oh yes, I forget to say who my favorite character is in season 1. Someone who makes the cool-o-meter go into in the red ... can you guess?

[BloodBoal]

Lord Beric Dondarrion?

[Alexcremers]

Nope. And it's not the dwarf either. The character I'm talking about is cool in the classic and traditional sense.

[Incanus]

It has to be Jorah Mormont and if not, Jeor Mormont!

[BloodBoal]

Are we talking about Cremers' definition of "cool"? Because if that's the case, it's gonna be hard for me to tell who this is...

OK, I'll give three guesses:

- Ser Jorah Mormont
- Jaime Lannister
- Beric Dondarrion (come on, it has to be him!)


EDIT: Look at that! Ink and I have the same definition of "cool". Well, that's... cool.

[Incanus]

After the above mentioned (Dondarrion especially) Bronn is also pretty cool.

[BloodBoal]

Ah, yes, Bronn too.

And Hodor. No, wait. Scratch that. Hodor sucks.

[Chaac]

I also thought of Mormont. So Jorah Mormont, Jaime Lannister or Bronn, that's my guess.

Unless he considers cool the insane presence onscreen that Ned has until things start going awry.

Edit: damn, you people write faster than me.

[Alexcremers]

I will no longer keep you in the dark ... yes ... Jorah Mormont.

[Incanus]

I will no longer keep you in the dark ... yes ... Jorah Mormont.

That Iain Glen has enormous screen presence I have to admit.

[BloodBoal]

Yeah, I've said it before, I'll say it again: Iain Glen has a great screen presence, and a great "vocal presence".

In the Shadowlands beyond Asshai, they say there are fields of ghostgrass with stalks as pale as milk that glow in the night, that murders all other grass. The Dothraki believe that one day it will cover everything, and that's the way the world will end.

God, I love how he spoke that line (I love how he speaks most of his lines, actually).
Didn't know Glen was Scottish, and I was surprised to learn that, since he hasn't the slighest Scottish accent. Weird...

But whatever: Jorah's cool, man!

[Incanus]

Yeah, I've said it before, I'll say it again: Iain Glen has a great screen presence, and a great "vocal presence".

Yes I agree, he is both. I think he and Charles Dance have similar arresting quality even though they would not even get very animated or loud in a scene.

Jorah is a great character, a tragic kind of character who still is the one wall of confidence and trust behind which Daenerys can retreat. But power and station might come between this trust.

Speaking of Tywin his scenes are cleverly written since the writers found a way of exploring the more personal side of the character through his relationship with Arya. He confides to a quick witted servant, whom he finds intriguing for her intellect and schooling, much more personal thoughts than to his henchmen. As I said before the dichotomy of almost paternal and yet subtly interrogation styled and sharp discussions is well done. And for whatever wamth there is, the gears still grind behind the discussion and Tywin keeps himself always a bit detached.

[Chaac]

Speaking of Tywin his scenes are cleverly written since the writers found a way of exploring the more personal side of the character through his relationship with Arya. He confides to a quick witted servant, whom he finds intriguing for her intellect and schooling, much more personal thoughts than to his henchmen. As I said before the dichotomy of almost paternal and yet subtly interrogation styled and sharp discussions is well done.

I read a youtube comment: "Tywin just gave Arya more love than Tyrion and Cersei have received their whole lives." lol

[Incanus]

Speaking of Tywin his scenes are cleverly written since the writers found a way of exploring the more personal side of the character through his relationship with Arya. He confides to a quick witted servant, whom he finds intriguing for her intellect and schooling, much more personal thoughts than to his henchmen. As I said before the dichotomy of almost paternal and yet subtly interrogation styled and sharp discussions is well done.

I read a youtube comment: "Tywin just gave Arya more love than Tyrion and Cersei have received their whole lives." lol

Might just be true. Not a nice man this one, not to his children. But he does it for the greatest of motives: Family honor, longevity, stability, prestige and power. So they have a lot more responsibilities and duty to follow for them to be pampered. And Tyrion a malformed little imp, shame to the whole line. So no wonder they were raised to uphold the family honor, they were not just very good at it though. Poor Tywin has to accomplish and excel for all of them.


On another note The Qarthians in general are a great colorful bunch.The actor of Pyat Pree is just excellent since he is just wonderfully creepy in the part.
Also a great but subtle presence in Robb Stark's camp is Roose Bolton who has appeared in many episodes in the second season. Great performance and the actor is pretty much how I pictured that character. I especially like his cold eyes.

[Jason LeBlanc]

I'd say a good approach would be to put anything related to the novel in spoiler tags, and leave the rest uncensored. Between Sunday and whenever I watch the latest episode (usually Monday night), I stay clear of this thread anyway. Seems a sensible strategy.

THIS.

[KK.]

I'd say a good approach would be to put anything related to the novel in spoiler tags, and leave the rest uncensored. Between Sunday and whenever I watch the latest episode (usually Monday night), I stay clear of this thread anyway. Seems a sensible strategy.

THIS.

Alright, I'm sticking with this system then.

Another engrossing episode with a lot of great scenes and the plot advanced on new fronts as well. Not perhaps as fluid as the past two episodes but none the less one of the best of the series. Tywin Lannister keeps getting screen time, no surprise there, since he is simply captivating. Also nice parallel to Jaime Lannister in this episode, except his nostalgic chat had a more twisted ending. And no sexposition again, three times in a row! Man we are on a roll with this revelation that the series does not exactly need it in every episode to make it interesting. But I missed scenes with Stannis and his troop since people will soon forget he is alive if he does not show his face again soon! Kings need good PR to stay afloat!

Well said Incanus. Agreed with most of wht you've said. I liked how they tried to fool us into thinking Jaime had some true humanity to him before revealing his consistently cold-blooded nature.

But Daenerys keeps plodding on. Get a move on woman!

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She doesn't do too much in this book anyways. We have to wait for the next season to see her in some real action.

Yeah, I've said it before, I'll say it again: Iain Glen has a great screen presence, and a great "vocal presence".

Yes I agree, he is both. I think he and Charles Dance have similar arresting quality even though they would not even get very animated or loud in a scene.

Jorah is a great character, a tragic kind of character who still is the one wall of confidence and trust behind which Daenerys can retreat. But power and station might come between this trust.

Indeed. Great character and Ian Glen just nailed him. As mentioned above, great stage presence.

Speaking of Tywin his scenes are cleverly written since the writers found a way of exploring the more personal side of the character through his relationship with Arya. He confides to a quick witted servant, whom he finds intriguing for her intellect and schooling, much more personal thoughts than to his henchmen. As I said before the dichotomy of almost paternal and yet subtly interrogation styled and sharp discussions is well done. And for whatever wamth there is, the gears still grind behind the discussion and Tywin keeps himself always a bit detached.

It's become one of favourite attributes of the new season. I love the current relationship between Arya and Tywin. The scenes very cleverly personalize the character of Tywin for us while making the conversations so fool of wit. I love their banter. It's great.

[KK.]

Another great episode in the season and I felt it was better than the last. There wasn’t a whole lot of action in this episode, it was more building suspense and character development. But it was done in such a way that it kept you glued on to the screen more than previous development based episodes. The plot was maintained quite well and the acting was superb as usual. I enjoyed that rare touch of compassion between Asha and Theon, a nice touch on the writer’s part. Also, Tyrion was quite engrossing as usual. His threat against Cersei sent chills down my spine. Judging from the little scene we got for Brienne and Jaime, it’s clear that the writers are going to handle that relationship rather well, so I’m looking forward to where that is headed. Daenerys expectedly didn’t do much besides her usual whining, but that girl knows how to keep viewers watching. There’s something about her presence and acting that makes me look forward to every scene of her useless meanderings (the same can be said for the magnificent screen presence of Tywin or Jorah Mormont). Robb’s character development was also well handled. One thing that this episode really flaunted over its predecessors is just how damn talented their cast is. From the child actors to the veterans, every actor has really nailed into the heart of their role and they’ve all somehow found the secret to keeping audiences on the edges of their seats.

A few things I’d like to pick on though:

• There’s unfortunately a sex scene. And it seemed rather forced if you ask me. If they had not made it so lengthy and more fluid with the narrative flow, then I would have been okay with it.
• Why is Varys mentioning the 3 dragons to Tyrion? Did he mention that in the book? Now I think about it, he just might have.
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  Regardless, I think that the fact the he shares such news with Tyrion takes away from the idea that Varys is keeping these secrets to himself to get Daenerys on the throne.
• It came to my realization two weeks ago that they took out Jojen and Meera Reed from the show. Why? They’re rather important characters. Do they intend to add them on in the next season instead?

Overall, I believe this was one of the strongest episodes in the season (the best was episode 6 if you ask me). And with 2 episodes left, this was a fantastic season and an absolute joy to watch.

- KK

[Incanus]

Another engrossing episode. I pretty much agree with you on all points. But I don't actually like how they handled Robb's relationship with this Volantene woman. Again I question her inclusion into the story in the first place since instead of Jeyne Westerling character they just invented a new one to act the same plot twist in another way. It would not have been enormously difficult to let it play out as it does in the novel. I am interested to see what other purpose does this serve that could not have been achieved by following the plot of the book?

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Oh yes Meera and Jojen Reed have not appeared. Perhaps they appear next season since I think they can be written quite easily into the story later if need be. I just hope they have not been dropped altogether.

[KK.]

Another engrossing episode. I pretty much agree with you on all points. But I don't actually like how they handled Robb's relationship with this Volantene woman. Again I question her inclusion into the story in the first place since instead of Jeyne Westerling character they just invented a new one to act the same plot twist in another way. It would not have been enormously difficult to let is play out as it does in the novel. I am interested to see what other purpose does this serve that could not have been achieved by following the plot of the book?

Indeed. I really didn't like this whole "Talisa" business. I liked how Robb's relationship with his mother is handled. But this replacement is of Jeyne is truly baffling...I mean both characters play exactly the same role, why replace the character?! Not to mention this whole "high-born" concept for a woman of Volantis is rather confusing...

I don't what was going through their heads when they made that decision.

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Oh yes Meera and Jojen Reed have not appeared. Perhaps they appear next season since I think they can be written quite easily into the story later if need be. I just hope they have not been dropped altogether.

As do I. I'm sure they'll easily insert them in for the next season. I mean they're very important components of Bran's storyline. I'm not sure how they'd pull it off by taking them out without doing some hefty damage to the source material...

[BloodBoal]

Forgot to post my thoughts on last week's episode (Episode 7), so here there are:

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On the whole, not much happened in this episode (well, at least, I didn't have the impression that a lot of things happened). As always, there was some cool stuff, some bad stuff, some weird stuff, and some stuff "à la Pyat Prick"...
- Regarding the Winterfell storyline, I like seeing Theon slow descent into madness, doing crazier and crazier stuff every time he feels he has to prove himself in front of his men. It's a bit of a shame that Bran & co talked a lot about the two orphans, though, because the end scene of the episode was not as powerful as it could have been, since it was obvious the burnt bodies were not Bran and Rickon. Bah!
- On Jon's side, well, that was some boring stuff. Yes, we didn't have sex in this episode, but there was a lot of sex talk between him and Ygritte. Boring! Show some sex, or don't show sex, but don't go halfway and just talk about it! That's just lame! So, yeah, Jon's story was really boring this week. Thank the gods he got captured at the end. Episode 8 should be more interesting regarding his story. I just hope the Wildlings won't talk to him about sex!
- At Harrenhal, things are still just as good as they were last week, and probably just as good as they'll be next week (which is this week, now. Know what I mean?). Some more talk and great acting between Tywin (for the win!) and Arya... I mean, Arry. I really liked the small bit during their conversation when Tywin (for the win!) was like: "Careful, boy. I like you, but don't piss me off, or I'll kick your ass like nobody ever did!" Poor fool! He clearly has never heard of Jaquen "Badass" Hgar, else he wouldn't even dare to threaten Arya... I mean, Arry.
- What about Dany-O? Well, her story is finally going somewhere! We're officially out of the desert! Her first scene in this episode was really weird, though: we were at Harrenhal, then we cut to her story. She talks to Xao Ding Dong for like 10 seconds, and then we cut to Jon's story. WTF, editors? Are you watching what you're doing? The editing in season 2 really has been fucked up for the most part! Nevermind: here is Jorah "Coolass" Mormont! Good to see him back safe and sound. I was wondering where he was gone the whole time. (Yeah, I know: blame it on the editors!). And he goes visiting that enigmatic woman who seems to know him well... Enigmatic woman, my ass! We all know who's behind the mask: that's Beric "Kickass" Dondarrion! Fuck yeah! How I missed him...
But, look, it's time for Pyat Prick's big scene! And you know what, Pyat Prick is one crazy lunatic! WTF was that scene, man? Multiple Pyat Pricks? WTF? That was awesome and lame at the same time! Weird and logic! Wrong and right! It was the most enigmatic scene I have ever seen in my entire life. It was cool, man. And I hear it wasn't in the book? Who gives a shit! Pyat Pricks are awesome, dude!
- Let's go back to Robb, now! Remember Robby R. Robb Stark, who's in love with the Lannister spy? Well, he's receiving another Lannister in his camp! Seriously, there must be more Lannisters than Starks in Robb's camp! WTF, man? Don't be surprised if you're going to be betrayed! But for the moment, the Lannisters prefer to betray themselves. That scene with Jaime (pronounce it the Spanish way, it sounds way cooler!) and the other Lannister was really nice, and it was touching to see Jaime beat him to death, since it showed he has a tender side, a gentler side. But does tha scene needed to be that long? I'm not so sure about that. Especially since Jaime's escape failed. So I still don't really get what was the point of that scene. If it was made for him to kill the guard, there was other ways to do it, quicker ways to do it. No need to waste 7 minutes on that. But I know, I know: "It's complaining for the sake of complaining" (© K.K., 2012. All Rights Reserved). Nice to see some tension on the Stark camp, though.
Talking about the Stark camp, I just remembered recently about that dude that was in season 1, and that got his fingers eaten by Robb's wolf, and that was the one who started the whole "King Of The North" NBC. Whatever happened to him? I want him back.

So, another episode down, three to go. Season 2 episodes are for the most part really uneven, since not all storylines are equally interesting or captivating (well, at least not at the same time) and also due to the horrible editing. Season 1 really felt more cohesive. Season 2 episode have really good parts, but also really bad parts, in my opinion. This episode was no exception.
To put it simply, that was a scrambled egg of an episode, if you know what I mean.

Obivously, I won't put next episode trailer here, since it has already aired, so I'll give a bonus, this time. A still from Episode 9 - Blackwater.

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[Incanus]

So, another episode down, three to go. Season 2 episodes are for the most part really uneven, since not all storylines are equally interesting or captivating (well, at least not at the same time) and also due to the horrible editing. Season 1 really felt more cohesive. Season 2 episode have really good parts, but also really bad parts, in my opinion. This episode was no exception.
To put it simply, that was a scrambled egg of an episode, if you know what I mean.

The second season took a long time to find cohesion and good pace in editorial flow of the stories (this was best in the middle episodes) and then they actually have been slipping here and there, mainly when trying to offer each plot proper screen time. The problem of the story is really the myriad different threads with the main characters where the writers and film makers are faced with the problem of either moving the main plot forward or the character arc forward since very rarely they can do both. So it is either a character moment or main plot moment with very rare point where both advance equally. Plus there has been a lot of completely new material where either a new characters have been invented or the plot deviates from the novels to emphasize something glanced over in the books which in itself takes time. Tywin (for the win!) is a positive example of this in my opinion (although I just like the character and Charles Dance's performance so much), some other meanderings have not been so succesful. I hope they can somehow focus the last few episodes properly so the flow is not as, well not exactly jarring, but perhaps uneven than it has been in some of the episodes.

In season one the plot was much less complicated than it is now though, which is the reason the second season has had some problems with narrative flow.

[BloodBoal]

I have yet to read the second book, but I know more or less what are the scenes that were added in the show, by reading comments here and there, and most of those scenes are nice indeed (like Tywin (for the win!) ones). I don't think he problem doesn't come from those added moments (well, apart from Ygritte talking about Jon's dick. Please, tell me that wasn't in the book.).
The core of the problem really lies in the editing, in my opinion. They really need to do something about that, especially if in later seasons, more characters are added to the story, in different locations. I don't want my episodes to be like:

PENTOS

Dany-O: Illyrio, do you think I can cross the Narrow Sea?
Illyrio: Yes.

Cut to next scene.


KING'S LANDING

Joffrey: Off with their heads!

Cut to next scene.


WINTERFELL

Some dude: Winter Is Coming, bitches.

Cut to next scene.


BEYOND THE WALL

Ygritte: Snow's balls fight!


Oh boy, this going to be a pain in the ass to follow all those storylines!


P.S.: I would like to apologize for writing "enigmatic" the wrong way three times in a row in my previous post. I don't know what happened. I must have been drunk when writing that post. Or maybe I was smoking weed. Or maybe I was drunk and smoking weed at the same time. Whatever. It is now corrected, thank the gods. It won't happen again, I promise.

[KK.]

I have yet to read the second book, but I know more or less what are the scenes that were added in the show, by reading comments here and there, and most of those scenes are nice indeed (like Tywin (for the win!) ones). I don't think he problem doesn't come from those added moments (well, apart from Ygritte talking about Jon's dick. Please, tell me that wasn't in the book.). The core of the problem really lies in the editing, in my opinion. They really need to do something about that, especially if in later seasons, more characters are added to the story, in different locations. I don't want my episodes to be like: PENTOS Dany-O: Illyrio, do you think I can cross the Narrow Sea? Illyrio: Yes. Cut to next scene. KING'S LANDING Joffrey: Off with their heads! Cut to next scene. WINTERFELL Some dude: Winter Is Coming, bitches. Cut to next scene. BEYOND THE WALL Ygritte: Snow's balls fight! Oh boy, this going to be a pain in the ass to follow all those storylines!

Yes, I can see the issues with the editing. But this new season is a lot more complicated than the first one. And there are a lot of storylines. In the first season, we had fewer characters and they were often grouped off together so there were less specific storylines needed to be explored. But considering how everyone is completely split apart with their own storylines, its a lot to cover.

P.S.: I would like to apologize for writing "enigmatic" the wrong way three times in a row in my previous post. I don't know what happened. I must have been drunk when writing that post. Or maybe I was smoking weed. Or maybe I was drunk and smoking weed at the same time. Whatever. It is now corrected, thank the gods. It won't happen again, I promise.

Don't fool me with your empty promises BloodBoal! I deny your apology

[Incanus]

Yes the quick cutting sometimes makes you feel like things end in mid-sentence, like there surely should be more but no they are not going to show that and whisk you away to another scene.

[SF1_freeze]

Attention - S02 E08 spoilers for everyone who hasn't seen it yet...



I really like the intimate character episodes. They give the story time to breathe and the characters to become alive. The element of background history while common in the first season dissappeared almost completely for the first season 2 episodes and now returned for ep7 and 8.

Of course now that GoT is a mainstream show you always have people crying about "slow" character moments and even worse those annoying book purists who creep up everytime a book is adapted for film or television and criticize and cry over almost every change there is. They may be even right that some moments changed from the book my have been better unchanged but the show has limited budget, a crazy shooting schedule, the end of episode cliffhanger structure and a different feel altogether.
David and Dan did an amazing job and managed to pull both seasons off much better than i could have ever hoped for.

These stupid book purists don't value what they got, don't understand the amazing luck to get something that GOOD without any MAJOR storyline cuts so far. This is a miracle and they still cry about no weasel soup, no Jamie telling Catelyn about the Mad king or a character swap which changes nothing in the big picture (Jeyne vs Talisa).
90 percent of love stories are soapy because soaps are about nothing else but the difference between soap love stories and good love stories in films/tv is the acting. Here the actors for Robb and Talisa made it work very well. It was a great decision by the producers to show this love story which will make for an even better

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RW

Maybe she still is Jeyne Westerling who could pose as this beautiful, noble foreigner for various reasons. Her house is sworn to the Lannisters...



I also thought about what Blood or Incanus said about the fast cuts and the confusing structure. Well the explanation is easy... they have too many storylines and still need the episode cliffhangers while carefully have to jump over events they can't show cause of cost cutting or time jumps!
This means that there have to be scenes or episodes between scenes of one storyline to explain the sense of passing time (ergo Theons departure from Pyke and the sacking of Winterfell are an episode apart. They wouldn't work in the same episode as Theon travels about a month to Winterfell)




Concerning the Score:
I really felt that Djawadi finally improved and created some rare beautiful moments.
The best track of the season so far (and maybe the whole show) appears in the final scene leading into the credits of episode 8. It's like a concert arrangement of the Stark Theme with very good classy orchestration. For every naysayer just check that track out!

He also created a good love melody which nicely enhanced the Robb Talia scene. I also like the theme for Jaqen H'ghar played in the credits of episode 5 and developed in the subsequent episodes as well as in episode 5.

For all of those who are angry about missing theme development: The probably best new season 2 theme is Theon Greyjoys theme.
Djawadi developed it from a lyrical first appearance on the way to Pyke to the epic, noble statement heard in Theon's baptism into the completely transformed crazy, depressing and dramatic rendition of the same theme in the Winterfell courtyard scene. The theme was also used in the hunt scene for Bran and later again in the dramatic rendition during the credits. Finally Djawadi created a tender statement for a lovely scene between Theon and Asha/Yara in ep8.

Ramin Djawadi is slowly getting better at his job! Now he only needs to convince Hans Zimmer to give him a good sample library.. or David and Dan to get orchestra scoring budget.

[Chaac]

If this goes as long as they want it to go the scoring could change dramatically. As in, having real instruments, for example. It happened to Doctor Who.

[BloodBoal]

Just finished watching episode 8. My review will be brief, since the problems and cool things are pretty much the same week after week, so there is not much left to cover this time:

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- The scene between Yara and Theon was sweet. "Yeah, I was about to kill you because you were crying, but then you smiled, so I spared you. Bye, bro!"
- About Jon's story... Well, nothing much happened, so, what can I say? Jon can fall with style, that's for sure! Oh, yeah: who's that bone dude? How high is he in the Wildlings' hierarchy? Is he the equivalent of Ben Linus for the Others? Or Richard Alpert? And how come the Wildlings have a hierarchy? They're supposed to be "wild"! That's fucked up!
- Hey, Samwise and Co found a hatch, with a horn in it. That's the horn of Gondor! The horn of Boromir! Hope is restored! ELENDIL! ELENDIL!
- That Halfhand dude doesn't look half as good without his hat on. Put it back, I say!
- The whole "Robb and the Lannister spy" sequence was pretty weak, and badly handled, in my opinion. The "I don't want to marry the Frey girl" scene felt lame, too much sirupy, sugary and "sacchariny".
- It was good to see things finally moving at Harrenhal, with Arya's escape and stuff. I was starting to get bored of that place.
- King's Landing scenes were among the best stuff from this episode, especially the scene between Tyrion, Bronn and Varys.
What was the point of showing Daenerys for two seconds in this episode? To let us know she wants to go into the House Of The Undying? Couldn't they move that scene to the next episode? It felt useless, here.
- Stannis is less than a day away from King's Landing! Yipee!!

Look at that, Episode 9 - Blackwater trailer kicks major ass!!!!

IT'S TIME FOR WAR! TO ARMS! TO WAR! RIDE NOW! RIDE FOR RUIN AND KING'S LANDING'S ENDING!

[KK.]

That trailer looks epic....does this mean we'll FINALLY have a full-on battle sequence? Or will we just get shots of everything AFTER the action is finished?

But I've got to say, the similarities between some of those sequences do really cry The Siege of Gondor to me.

Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!

[BloodBoal]

That trailer looks epic....does this mean we'll FINALLY have a full-on battle sequence? Or will we just get shots of everything AFTER the action is finished?

Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. I'm guessing we'll see Stannis' army rushing to King's Landing walls, and then we'll cut to the aftermath of the battle.

But I've got to say, the similarities between some of those sequences do really cry The Siege of Gondor to me.

That statement is moronic! It looks way more like The Battle Of The Hornburg than The Siege Of Gondor! Revise your classics, Merciful One!

[Incanus]

And Bronn looks nothing like Legolas even though he is badass of highest order! But he has yet to surf on a shield, climb on a horse in mid-canter by just touching it's neck and kill a gigantic elephant creature of myths. I am counting on you sellsword! I believe in you! You can save Middle-Ear... sorry King's Landing.

[BloodBoal]

Where is Beric Dondarrion and Jaqen H'gar?
Where is Pryat Prick that was blowing?
They have passed like rain on the fountain, like wind in the pillow.
The days have gone down in the North behind the Wall into shadow.
How did it come to this?

[Incanus]

Oh my I have to wait until the episode comes out to reveal my epic ode to Bronn.