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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:46 AM

Assuming that article is true, it certainly matches up with what we were seeing up until fairly recently in the show.

I just watched the finale. Meh...for some reason, I'm still watching this show, so I guess they're doing something right. :P The acting certainly plays some role in it...as I've said before, it's delightful to see something in a genre somewhat similar to that of LOTR, but without the embarrassing cheesiness. I really like how this series takes a more realistic approach.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:58 AM

Assuming that article is true, it certainly matches up with what we were seeing up until fairly recently in the show.

I just watched the finale. Meh...for some reason, I'm still watching this show, so I guess they're doing something right. :P The acting certainly plays some role in it...as I've said before, it's delightful to see something in a genre somewhat similar to that of LOTR, but without the embarrassing cheesiness. I really like how this series takes a more realistic approach.

Obviously you would think Iliad and Odyssey or Aineis as grand standing stuffiness then I take it.

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I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


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Posted 14 June 2012 - 04:15 PM

Depends on how they were translated, directed, and acted!

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 04:23 PM

Oh, this thread was better off without you! Why did you have to come back? Don't have you some piano transcription to do? You're good at that, but not at criticizing GoT. Leave it to the professionals, kiddo.


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Posted 14 June 2012 - 07:25 PM

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It would have made the second season way shorter.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:19 PM

Okay, so I've finally jumped on the bandwagon. My wife bought me the first 4 books for my birthday erlier this year and after reading the first two I realized we HAD to buy the blu ray. I'm halfway through book 3, and we're about to watch episode 10 of season 1 while eating homemade eggplant and meat lasagne and drinking Pinot Grigio. The books and TV show are both spectacularly fun! I hear books 4 and 5 are a bit less action-packed. Guess I'll find out soon enough.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:29 PM

The 4th book is the least exciting with a lot more character driven scenes, but it falters compared to its predecessors (still a great book though). But the 5th book is fantastic stuff.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:40 AM

Oh, this thread was better off without you! Why did you have to come back? Don't have you some piano transcription to do? You're good at that, but not at criticizing GoT. Leave it to the professionals, kiddo.


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Unless I'm mistaken, I spent more time criticizing LOTR than GOT in that post...your fingers should read more carefully next time!

Now, if I wanted to criticize GOT, I would bring up how absurdly difficult it is to follow the storyline, and how amusing it is to read synopses of episodes I've watched and go, "Huh, so that's what happened." But I don't, so I won't. ;)

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:50 AM


Oh, this thread was better off without you! Why did you have to come back? Don't have you some piano transcription to do? You're good at that, but not at criticizing GoT. Leave it to the professionals, kiddo.


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Unless I'm mistaken, I spent more time criticizing LOTR than GOT in that post...your fingers should read more carefully next time!

Now, if I wanted to criticize GOT, I would bring up how absurdly difficult it is to follow the storyline, and how amusing it is to read synopses of episodes I've watched and go, "Huh, so that's what happened." But I don't, so I won't. ;)

:lol:
In all honesty I have often wondered how well people who have not read the novels can follow the myriad plots and characters in the series. Since you can't watch an episode casually and expect then to remember or understand fully what's going on. You have to pay attention a lot to names and places etc.

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"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-

I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


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Posted 15 June 2012 - 07:22 AM

I haven't read the books and I've been able to follow it.

And even without reading the books I can tell they don't have clear some priorities at the time of choosing what to put of screen.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 07:31 PM


Oh, this thread was better off without you! Why did you have to come back? Don't have you some piano transcription to do? You're good at that, but not at criticizing GoT. Leave it to the professionals, kiddo.


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Unless I'm mistaken, I spent more time criticizing LOTR than GOT in that post...your fingers should read more carefully next time!


Hey! You leave my fingers alone!

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:35 AM

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:49 AM

:lol:

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"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-

I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


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Posted 18 June 2012 - 08:19 PM

Ah, pop culture. It's great!

So I've been thinking about the messy second season today and it dawned on me that the producers really missed a shrewd trick with their structuring of the second season from the off: Quarth should have been jettisoned completely. In as far as the tv show goes, Quarth was nothing but filler, nothing came out of that arc other than Daenery's eventually came to place all of her trust in Jorah by the end of the season and go with his plan as laid out at the beginning of the season. Instead of showing her and her Khalasar traipsing across the desert the writers would've been smart to just forget the Quarth sidequest (;)) and have her reaching the coast (where they could've invented some loosely related-to-Quarth drama, before resolving to go with Jorah at the end of the season. Simply put: they should have cut her character appearances in half and spent the time and money saved on North of The Wall sequences and - most importantly - the siege of King's Landing.

Ignoring the purists; it would've made for far tighter television, imo. Instead all we got with Daenery's by the end of S2 was some inconsequential bloat about her dragons being stolen and Jorah Mormont earned plenty of XP and levelled up. Even what was there of Quarth is, in hindsight, laughably bad: The Mother of Dragon's shows up at some mysterious yet exotic utopia governed by rich traders eccentric socialites - a place where we are lead to believe there are no troubles or poverty, little concern of the world outside of its gates (which are apparently impenetrable, for some reason), a veritable paradise on earth for a select few, by all accounts.

A couple of weeks later they're all dead and Daenery's checks out. And that's it.

To paraphrase Tolkien, who once told a movie exec whom was fretting about adapting LotR and the astronomical cost of filming not one, but two huge battles to, "just skip Helms Deep, then."

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 08:24 PM

Actually, I think the Qarth "sidequest" made Dany-O realize you can build a reputation based on nothing. That is a thematic that is quite strong, I think... Nah, i'm just kidding. It was pure crap!


all we got with Daenery's by the end of S2 was some inconsequential bloat about her dragons being stolen and Jorah Mormont earned plenty of XP and levelled up.


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Posted 18 June 2012 - 08:28 PM

They could've done the whole 'Daenery's learns' crap on the way to the coast and at whatever city or harbour town they arrive at when there.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 08:30 PM

They could've done the whole 'Daenery's learns' crap on the way to the coast and at whatever city or harbour town they arrive at when there.


Yeah, and they should have called that town... "Qarth".

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 08:31 PM

Quarth-in-Half.

Better still: just have her queuing up at customs for the whole show in two minute increments.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 04:43 AM

The should have had the House of the Undying better done through various episodes. And cut out the rest or Qarth. As in, the House of the Undyin is in the coast, there's maybe a little town. After it Dany reflects and basically they plan to assault a ship and take it by force. Which could be shot in the Davos' ship set with some convenient changes.

Or steal gold to pay mercenaries or end up conquering the town or... you know, if Dany isn't going to be a kid in the show, she should be more the future conquerer type of character who starts from nothing. And flesh better her motivations.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:00 AM

Daenerys' slow growth to understanding what it is to be a ruler, not just claiming to be a monarch, but actually showing the qualities and making difficult choices is what is in center of her story. This story arc is slow plodding in any case but Qarth could have been handled differently. Her story was in the sidelines most of the season, we see glimpses of her with parched lips and furrowed brow in the desert and finally arriving at Qarth and it became into prominence too suddenly in the final episodes I think. Qarth was also characterized very quickly and obscurely leading viewers to wonder what kind of Shangri-la that place is, as we do not see anything but the rich merchants in this city. But in the end the storyline gets the job done, Dany getting a boat out of the miserable town.

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"We pop out and come into the world and music is there. We didn't invent it - it's all organised in the atmosphere by divinity or whatever. It's a miracle." - John Williams-

I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:13 AM

Better still: just have her queuing up at customs for the whole show in two minute increments.


I can totally picture that:

Customs employee: "Sorry, lady, exotic animals aren't allowed in Westeros."
Dany-O: "These are not exotic animals. These are my babies"
Customs employee: "I don't care. They're not allowed."
Dany-O: "I am Daenerys Stormborn, and I will take what his mine through..."
Customs employee: "500 gold pieces"
Dany-O: "OK"

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:39 AM

"and Mormont, for the last time, STOP looking down my top."

"Forgive me Khaleesi, I was merely checking your boarding pass."

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 11:23 PM

Clive Russell cast as the Blackfish

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:02 AM

A good if an unexpected choice. If truth be told I had given up on Brynden Tully's appearance in the show as he should have been introduced a good while ago. Nice to see him in the 3rd season.

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I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:35 AM

I thought it was a brilliant choice to delay the introduction of the Tully's to season 3. Season 2 alone had so many new characters that non book readers had a hard time following every one.

Riverun and the Tully's had no place in the first two seasons or the whole show would have collapsed under all the different characters and factions. Of course purists won't agree but if hardcore book purists were the showrunners we wouldn't even have reached a third season. They wouldn't have the heart to change things like shorten or lenghten storylines which would result in boring and overcomplicated TV.

Let's be glad we have D&D who mostly did a fantastic job!

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:53 AM

You seem to think everything about the show is brilliant. :D

But yes I agree, keeping Riverun for season 3 was a good idea so as to keep the convoluted plot and myriad characters manageable.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:36 PM

You seem to think everything about the show is brilliant. :D

But yes I agree, keeping Riverun for season 3 was a good idea so as to keep the convoluted plot and myriad characters manageable.


Yeah i mostly do, it's a TV show of one of the best stories ever which is 90% true to the books. People get used to good stuff far too fast and start nitpicking. You can criticize even the best movies and shows on the planet, you just have to look hard enough (even if you love the stuff).

I'm a half glass full kind of person and that makes life far easier :). But well, one of the reasons is that there is much more to talk and discuss when talking about things people don't like

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:54 AM

We already had one video like that for season one, now we have one for season two (spoilers ahead, obviously):



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Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:04 PM

ROTFLMAO
Quite spot on, again!

Where are my dragons!

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:00 PM

That was even better than the first one and once again quite accurate!

Littlefinger Dance Party!!! :P

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:49 PM

Right now this board seems to be populated by Gandalf and Clones. :D

And the best looking Gandalf avatar photo is Incanus

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 01:21 PM

Season 3 Casting Announcements!




RICHARD DORMER FOR THE WIN!

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I already love that dude!!

P.S.: Oh, and the first episode of Season 3 is to be broadcasted on the 31st of March 2013

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 03:21 PM

Game Of Thrones Comic-Con Panel







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Posted 19 July 2012 - 12:29 PM

What a nice little commercial for Ireland, the apparent film capital of Europe.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 12:33 PM

Make sure you check the video two posts above (Season 3 casting announcements) ;)

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 12:37 PM

Yeah I noticed. Beric Dondarrion, the baddest badass ever to walk on the shores of Westeros (sharing this title withTywin for the win!) is finally appearing in the 3rd season! And I like all the new faces who have been cast and I am sure they will do a great job.

Ars superior est vita hominum.

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I think music is a stream of some kind. It could be blood. It could be water. It could be ether. Whatever it is it seems to be a living, organic force that’s in motion, that serves humanity and is part of humanity and part of what describes us as humans. We sing, play, dance, all the things that we do. And there is a vibrant and great literature we have been given. ... As musicians, we join the stream. We swim in the stream with all the other millions of music makers. It’s a life force, a strong one, surrounding us and we are part of it. -John Williams-


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 10:34 AM

Elijah Wood betraying PJ & Co



 



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Posted 22 July 2012 - 07:10 AM

He must be pretty crazy about GoT when he is humming the series theme while traveling to Ireland and thinking only that they are shooting it there and nothing about Ireland itself.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:16 AM

He must be pretty crazy about GoT when he is humming the series theme while traveling to Ireland and thinking only that they are shooting it there and nothing about Ireland itself.


Yeah, like you wouldn't do the same!

What does Ireland has to offer, anyway? Rocks and grass (and more rocks and more grass)?





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