Wow, what great news! I've been greatly enjoying Taras Bulba, but Quo Vadis might be the iconic score most in need of a complete re-recording. What wonderful news
The Official Tadlow Thread
Started by Mark Olivarez, Mar 08 2011 02:04 AM
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:51 AM
From James Fitzpatrick:
"Yes it is confirmed next release with the City Of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra and Chorus will be on Prometheus Records, produced for them by Tadlow Music:
The complete 140 epic score to FALL OF THE ROMAN. Every bit of the score has been recorded from the original scores and parts used 1964 including music not used in the film. Olivia Tiomkin Douglas and Volta music were gracious enough to make this music available and grant first recording rights for the music that did not appear on the OST LP.
This production has probably been the biggest and most expensive in the history of re-recordings of classic film scores as the main title alone features an orchestra of 130 musicians including 80 strings,6 horns, 6 trumpets, 6 trombones etc...
While still not having a great liking for the film, once I had recorded all the music without reference to the images, I realised it is one of the greatest, and certainly the most difficult to play and record, of all film scores and certainly stands by itself as a massive piece of virtuoso composition.
Then next on the Prometheus/Tadlow agenda is the complete CONAN THE DESTROYER. This fulfils Basil's wish, and that of his family who lent their support to this project, that a good recording is made of this score as the composer is on record as saying how appalling the original recording and performance were. The original orchestra could not even play his main title music ... so the version in the film is an edit of various other cues.
And yes, plans are in final stages to record the complete QUO VADIS with the permission of EMI Music ...the publishers of the score"
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:32 AM
I will order both of they. In the day they release.
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Posted 27 September 2011 - 08:36 PM
Ordered mine right away, I can't wait for this one!
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:06 AM
Did Intrada ever give a time frame for the Conan scores?
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:15 AM
Did Intrada ever give a time frame for the Conan scores?
No, not really.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 02:06 AM
Destroyer was just recorded in the past week or two, so I'd expect to see it released around May.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 02:55 AM
Ordered. Waiting this for pretty long time.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 11:44 AM
Yay, my third favourite Tiomkin score! Rerecorded to boot!
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:05 PM
They did not, but they did say they will release Barbarian first and Destroyer later on. I get the impression Barbarian could be done by X-Mas, but there's all kinds of factors that could delay a releaseDid Intrada ever give a time frame for the Conan scores?
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 04:20 PM
It looks like James Fitzpatrick is quitting his magnificent re-recordings for Tadlow Music. On the FSM boards, replying to a request to re-record Alfred Newman's Captain from Castile, he wrote:
http://www.filmscore...=1&r=674#bottom
Having already recorded Conquest for Silva I would love to record more...but that will not happen in my lifetime as I would think Quo Vadis will be my last..... as these recordings just do not sell enough anymore to warrant the huge expense ! If I had saved all the money I had spent on these CDs I could have been quite well off......
http://www.filmscore...=1&r=674#bottom
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 04:26 PM
I'm not surprised.
Varese quit the re-recording racket long ago.
Varese quit the re-recording racket long ago.
It's true. You're my role model, Stefan Cosman.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 04:31 PM
Yep, and Morgan & Stromberg also aren't planning anything new (even though they have a few in the can already recorded that should be released).
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 04:37 PM
And FSM is packing it in.
The Golden Age of re-releases is coming an an end....
The Golden Age of re-releases is coming an an end....
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 04:45 PM
I think it is as well.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 04:46 PM
Sad, but true. Looks like that the CD era is also coming to an end. Several analysts are saying that 2013-4 will be the year of the demise of CDs...
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 04:49 PM
I think that a lot of the scores we bought on CD limited to 3,000 copies or whatever will soon be popping up on iTunes and the like available to everyone as compressed mp3s.
It's been stated several times than the studios "let" the independant labels re-release scores and give them access to their vaults because the independent labels do the work of remastering the music to today's standards, and the labels get to profit from CD sales, but then the studios themselves own that remastered master for future digital use. I suspect the studios are just waiting for the golden era of CD soundtrack re-releases to end
It's been stated several times than the studios "let" the independant labels re-release scores and give them access to their vaults because the independent labels do the work of remastering the music to today's standards, and the labels get to profit from CD sales, but then the studios themselves own that remastered master for future digital use. I suspect the studios are just waiting for the golden era of CD soundtrack re-releases to end
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 06:30 PM
That sucks.
Whatever happened to Don Juan? I've been waiting for an announcement on that for months...
Yep, and Morgan & Stromberg also aren't planning anything new (even though they have a few in the can already recorded that should be released).
Whatever happened to Don Juan? I've been waiting for an announcement on that for months...
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Ditto!
I suggest a full frontal assault with automated laser monkeys, scalpel mines, and acid.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 07:04 PM
Bad news. I just wish they would have rerecorded one of the many bad-sounding Williams scores. Perhaps that would also have put a bit of money in the pocket?
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Posted 13 October 2011 - 06:08 PM
Doug Fake has nice things to say about Tadlow's FOTRE re-recording
10/13/11
"The Rise Of The Roman Empire!" Ok, The Fall of it! Whatever. Producer James Fitzpatrick nails it down, sets it ablaze, then stomps on the ashes! Here's the Tiomkin recording to beat.
Much has been said about Tiomkin's favorite musical devices, the abundance of notes, the colorful orchestrations, the sheer volume of music. So true, so true, so true. But MY favorite device is his incredibly complex harmonic vocabulary.
Not to be confused with atonality and dissonance, areas Tiomkin rarely dwelled upon, I speak of his non-stop, rapid-fire machine gun-paced change of chords within his cues. Relying mostly on tried and true major and minor chords, Tiomkin uniquely raced through an abundance of those chords within mere beats, often moving around chromatically from one harmony to another with the same ferocity Jerry Goldsmith applied rhythms to action music. No small feat! But enough of harmony. Let's visit THE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE as in this brand new Prometheus 2-CD set. And once you visit it, you'll be back. I've been there twice now, all two plus hours of it, and after a brief respite I'll go visit it again.
Yes, it's that good. This is surely one of the best re-recordings I've heard. Being such an ambitious score only adds to the good vibes!
What Fitzpatrick's crew does is capture the sheer energy of this weighted score, finding all the right colors again and again. Here an imposing solo organ, there a tender violin line, here a flutter-tongue trumpet figure, there a sturdy unison cello section... and before you know it, all the sweep and majesty of a full-blooded procession through Rome, right there in your living room, or your car, or your earbuds or whatever. However you carry sound from the CD player to your ear, Nic Raine conducts it, the City of Prague musicians play it, Prometheus presents it... and you're the beneficiary.
Hail Commodus! Hail Caesar! Maybe even hail Livius if you desire! But mostly, all hail Dimitri Tiomkin and his score of a lifetime!
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:43 PM
Nic Raine has just posted this update on his facebook page regarding the Quo Vadis re-recording:
"Nic Raine: My 'complete' comment related to Quo Vadis. Another company is issuing all the 10 Commandments recordings soon so no need for us to duplicate that."
"Nic Raine: My 'complete' comment related to Quo Vadis. Another company is issuing all the 10 Commandments recordings soon so no need for us to duplicate that."
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:49 PM
Another FSM box?
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:32 PM
"Nic Raine: My 'complete' comment related to Quo Vadis. Another company is issuing all the 10 Commandments recordings soon so no need for us to duplicate that."
All the recordings? As in, full score plus alternates plus suites ala FSM's Ben-Hur? I'm not familiar with the score's recording history.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:05 PM
Awesome news, though not entirely unexpected. My guess is either Counterpoint, or FSM's final release. I can't wait though!
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:57 PM
I've been saying for a while I am sure it's one of FSM's final releases. Hopefully they get it finished and shipping by Easter
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Another boot (hopefully) bites the dust!
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 02:09 PM
What are there conan re-recordings like coz i`m thinking of getting them?
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 03:18 PM
Stellar. The performance and sound quality are arguably better than the original versions.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 03:25 PM
Not arguably!
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 04:57 PM
I was just hedging my bets. In my opinion, they whip the original performances' collective asses.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 05:09 PM
If you like the Conan the Barbarian score enough, there is no reason to have simply one album in your collection.
The Milan/Varese/(inevitable Intrada release) presentation of the original album is important for its nostalgic and archival merit.
The Tadlow re-recording is noteworthy for being a faithful recreation of the complete score as intended by Mr. Poledouris, and includes music that was either unused in the film or was never recorded for the film. People complain about it not sounding exactly like the original score, by subduing or emphasizing specific instrument lines, or varying the tempo. To that I ask, so what? A rerecording never needs to be held to the same rigorous drumbeat and sound levels as a piece of music that must be synchronized to action on screen. As for the clipping, well...I don't think it's something to whine or issue death threats about. You might read differently at FSM.
And there are live recordings available of what Mr. Poledouris conducted at Ubeda shortly before his death, if you like live performances of film score music.
It's one of my most absolutely favorite scores of all time, and I listen to the Tadlow all the time. Far more than the Varese.
The Milan/Varese/(inevitable Intrada release) presentation of the original album is important for its nostalgic and archival merit.
The Tadlow re-recording is noteworthy for being a faithful recreation of the complete score as intended by Mr. Poledouris, and includes music that was either unused in the film or was never recorded for the film. People complain about it not sounding exactly like the original score, by subduing or emphasizing specific instrument lines, or varying the tempo. To that I ask, so what? A rerecording never needs to be held to the same rigorous drumbeat and sound levels as a piece of music that must be synchronized to action on screen. As for the clipping, well...I don't think it's something to whine or issue death threats about. You might read differently at FSM.
And there are live recordings available of what Mr. Poledouris conducted at Ubeda shortly before his death, if you like live performances of film score music.
It's one of my most absolutely favorite scores of all time, and I listen to the Tadlow all the time. Far more than the Varese.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 07:00 PM
Got the first one this week and I'm absolutely loving it. Get it!What are there conan re-recordings like coz i`m thinking of getting them?
The second one will arrive later next week.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:03 PM
"It's still baffling to me. I sit down with a pencil and a piece of paper and do my best... The remarkable thing is that my music is heard by billions of people." --John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
"Let me say, however, there is no "next" John Williams. Sadly, he is unique--- a figure who simultaneously embodies and transcends the music of all the masters of film music who preceded him (much like Brahms and Wagner of the Romantic era). He comes from a time when the craft of music in film was still one of the ear, heart and mind. Today, sadly, the craft is largely technical. Most composers do not conceive their music "inwardly" but rather at the computer--- and with rather limited skills, musically, at that. The inner spirit knows no boundaries--- our plastic abilities, sadly, do. John is a man of spirit, heart, intellect and soaring music." -- Conrad Pope about John Williams
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:05 PM
Oh my poor wallet. 
Does anyone know when it's going to be released?
Karol
Does anyone know when it's going to be released?
Karol
From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:12 PM
Oh wow....I've been waiting for this one for a while now, didn't think it would happen so soon!!! The thought of Tadlow doing Quo Vadis makes my mouth water. I can't wait!
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:00 PM
Soundtrack event of the year for me!
(Aside from Ben-Hur)
(Aside from Ben-Hur)
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:24 PM
Apart from Lincoln, this is the release I'm looking forward the most
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