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[JanBing]

If I have multiple instruments on one line - say for example my percussion line has triangle for a while, then marimba for a while, then cymbal later - how do I split it into multiple lines so that I can use different sample libraries for each line?

Or, is there a way to leave it one line, but have different sample libraries play different parts of the track?

You can choose one of 16 MIDI channels for each note. Just select one or multiple notes (you can drag a selection frame with the right mouse button), right-click one of them and select "Note channel" at the bottom to set the MIDI channel for the selected notes. Now in EWQLSO's interface you can also set a MIDI-channel for each loaded instrument, and now those notes only play the instruments assigned to that channel. Instruments set to "omni" will be played by all notes, independent of the note channel they're set to.

[ggctuk]

Hey, Jack, it's a shame you never finished your Get 'em, R-2! cue: from what you shown so far, you were pretty much dead-on with the actual music (which we can at least compare it to since a TOR video uses that segment almost in its entirety, sadly riddled with SFX)

[Datameister]

Hopefully that bit will be cleanly available from the game rip. If not, hopefully Jack will finish his mockup (and correct the percussion ). If not, hopefully I'll do one that's complete and maybe half as good as Jack's.

[Alexander]

Hey, Jack, it's a shame you never finished your Get 'em, R-2! cue: from what you shown so far, you were pretty much dead-on with the actual music (which we can at least compare it to since a TOR video uses that segment almost in its entirety, sadly riddled with SFX)

Maybe he was very busy.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Can anyone recommend a good VST plugin for piano?

[ggctuk]

EWQLSO has a good piano, but it's not free so...

I might have a soundfont buried somewhere with a decent piano.

[Faleel]

Can anyone recommend a good VST plugin for piano?

Just play a real piano?

[Alexander]

Can anyone recommend a good VST plugin for piano?

Just play a real piano?

[JanBing]

http://www.milosjana...tplugin-cvpiano

[Sido-Dyas]

Are there still plans to do other mockups for AOTC, such as the alternate section in "Padme Falls" or the different variations of "End Credits"? I would love to hear them if time permits their creation. Thanks for the ones that have been done already!

[Jason LeBlanc]

EWQLSO has a good piano, but it's not free so...

I might have a soundfont buried somewhere with a decent piano.

Hmmm, I have EWQLSO Gold and there is no piano...

http://www.milosjana...tplugin-cvpiano

Cool, I'll check that one out!

[Alexander]

Garritan has a very good piano too.

[JanBing]

Hmmm, I have EWQLSO Gold and there is no piano...

Sure there is, under "Gold Perc" -> "Wood" -> "Steinway" ... of course, as strange category for a piano

[Datameister]

Are there still plans to do other mockups for AOTC, such as the alternate section in "Padme Falls" or the different variations of "End Credits"? I would love to hear them if time permits their creation. Thanks for the ones that have been done already!

Short answer: yes. I'm not allowed to share the materials themselves with anyone, but I can share mockups, and I intend to complete high-quality mockups of all the unavailable AOTC music as soon as I can. It's a little impossible because of my living arrangements right now, but that'll be changing before too long. I would definitely keep an eye on the mockups thread, or I might just start a whole new thread with all of them when the time comes.

[SF1_freeze]

That would be great Datameister, looking forward to a nice list with all the old and new mockups you will have completed by then. Thanks for your efforts on that front

[Sido-Dyas]

Are there still plans to do other mockups for AOTC, such as the alternate section in "Padme Falls" or the different variations of "End Credits"? I would love to hear them if time permits their creation. Thanks for the ones that have been done already!

Short answer: yes. I'm not allowed to share the materials themselves with anyone, but I can share mockups, and I intend to complete high-quality mockups of all the unavailable AOTC music as soon as I can. It's a little impossible because of my living arrangements right now, but that'll be changing before too long. I would definitely keep an eye on the mockups thread, or I might just start a whole new thread with all of them when the time comes.

Thanks for the update. I will be watching out for them, but there is no hurry of course.

[ggctuk]

Cool. Can't wait to see your beefed-up Get 'em, R-2 cue (which will probably come available shortly after the mockup is posted )

[Alexander]

Cool. Can't wait to see your beefed-up Get 'em, R-2 cue (which will probably come available shortly after the mockup is posted )

Never mind.

[Alexander]

Jason, can you please reupload these cues:

2m2 Palpatine's Plotting - section removed from the final film:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s7daeh

7m3 Finale - original section replaced by 7m3 Insert
http://www.sendspace.com/file/w2kav7

[ggctuk]

Well, it has very nearly been two months since anybody has contributed to this thread. Any progress made on some of the mockups?

This was something I included at the end of my 8M2 Koeniggraetzer March cue on my Last Crusade edit. It's a pretty simple mockup of the timpani drum insert that plays when Indy bumps into Hitler. Beats using film rip because the crowd covers quite a bit of it, making it pretty much unusable unless you like crowd noise over your music. I don't have sheets so I based this on what I heard in the film.

http://www.multiupload.com/K0XM9DU1GR

Bear in mind that you will have to mix it one bit at a time over the cue as I didn't have precise timings in mind between each section.

[Datameister]

I've been without access to my software and hardware for mockup creation since June, but I just finally got set up again a few days ago - yet I'm finding I lack the desire to work on any mockups at the moment. I'm working on a big non-musical project that's consuming all of my hobby time. I still have lots of mockups to do (and redo) once I get my motivation back, though.

[MrJosh]

I feel your pain, Datameister. Sometimes life projects will try to use up all the fun/hobby time :/

[gkgyver]

I'm working on a huge amount of re-recordings right now.
Unfortunately for you, it's not Williams

[Jack]

I'm itching to try out some new sample libraries I've got. Any requests for something fairly substantial (perhaps an entire missing cue, for example)?

[Jason LeBlanc]

Here is my promised list of mockup candidates!


Priority 1 - Likely never even recorded, or recorded but isn't in the film or on CD/boots/video games

1975 - Jaws
1m6s Typewriter Chord

1984 - Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom
1m7/2m1 Through Chinatown [bars 52-55]
2m3b Snowbank Sweetener
5m1 Entrance Of The Boy King
5m2b Exchange Of Glances
9m2 Willy In The Fryer [this one is partially used in film, but is mostly missing]

1989 - Indiana Jones and the The Last Crusade
7m2 Insert #2
11m4/12m1 The Canyon Of The Crescent Moon [first minute of the cue only, the rest is in the film and on CD]
10m1 Insert 2
10m1 Insert 3
10m1 Insert A

1991 - Hook
13m2 To War!! [original bar 37ish section only]
15m2 The End Of Hook [bars 27-40]

1993 - Jurassic Park
9m2 The T-Rex Chase [sections from beginning and end missing from film]
12m2 Hungry Raptor [sections from beginning and end missing from film]

1997 - The Lost World
6M2-7M1 Pt I Up in a Basket [section missing from film only]
6M2-7M1 Pt II Up in a Basket
10M1 Rialto Ripples [sections missing from film only]
11M3-12M1 High Bar and Ceiling Tiles [sections missing from film only]
12M3 Ludlow's Speech [ending only]
12M5 Monster on the Loose [section missing in film only]
14M2 The Saving Dart [ending only]

2001 - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
2m4 Insert Diagon Alley Reveal
Quidditch and the Great Gryffindor Victory

2002 - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
1m1 Prologue: Book II [sections that weren't revised only]

2004 - Harry Potter and the Prisoner Of Azkaban
02 1M3A That's a Lie
03 1M4X Aunt Marge Points the Finger
10 1M9B Second Collision [ending only]
14 2M3 The Train to Hogwarts Version II
24 3MC Befriending the Hippogriff [last third of the cue]
30 3M7A Clown Out of the Cupboard [beginning only]
29 3M7X New Beginning
32 3M10 Remembering Mother
36 3ME The Great Hall Ceiling [ending only]
39 4M2 Quidditch 2004 [ending only]
40 4M2XV Choral Overlay
41 4M3+4 Enter Winter [first half]
42 4M3+4 New Woods Walk and Birds Flight [first half]
43 4M5 Map to Snow Scene
45 4M10 Brief Snow Scene [section at end]
48 4M14 Dueling the Dementor
49 4M14 Insert for Patronus Light
50 5M1 Buckbeak's Sentence [section at end]
51 5M2 Reading the Map [section near beginning]
52 5M2A Reveal Your Secret54 5M5 The Crystal Ball [section]
61 6M2 The Confrontation Scene [sections removed from film]
62 6M4 Sirius and Harry [last two thirds]
66 6M5AN First Frozen Lake
69 7M1A Saving Buckbeak [ending only]
72 7M2A String Overlay
73 7M3 Buckbeak Saves the Day [opening only]
78 7M7 Ext Whomping Willow
80 7M9 Lupin's Departure [opening only]
81 7M11 A New Broomstick

2005 - Revenge Of The Sith
1m4A "Get 'Em R-2!" [bars cut from film only]
4m6 I Am The Senate [ending only]
Revenge Of The Sith (DVD Version) [original opening only]

2005 - Memoirs Of A Geisha
Somebody other than me will have to figure out this one!





Priority 2 - Only available recording is in the film itself, probably covered by sound effects

1984 - Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom
2m2a Bar 34 Insert
2m2b Bar 76 Insert
2m4 The Indian Village
3m1 The Old Priest's Tale
3m2 The Child Returns
3m2a Alternate Beginning
5m1x The Emperor's Entrance
5m2a The First Supper
7m2 More Sacrifice
7m1a Sacrifice Sweetener
7m1d Percussion Sweetener - One
7m2d Percussion Sweetener - Two
7m3d Percussion Sweetener - Three
7m4/8m1 Insert
8m2 Moloram's Speech
8m3 The Evil Potion
9m1x Sacrifice Continued
11m1 Insert

1989 - Indiana Jones and the The Last Crusade
1m4-2m1x Sweetener
5m3 Intro
9m2 Final Ending
10m1 Insert 2
10m3-11m1 Insert 1
10m3-11m1 Insert 2

1991 - Hook
13m2 Insert Bar 37
13m3 Insert

1993 - Jurassic Park
1m1 Incident at Isla Nublar [final note only]
1m2 The Encased Mosquito
2m1 The Entrance of Mr. Hammond
3m3 Cartoon Demonstration
4m2 You Bred Raptors
5m1 The History Lesson
6m3 The Coming Storm
8m1 The Trouble with Dennis
9m2 The T-Rex Chase
11m1
12m2 Hungry Raptor

1997 - The Lost World
4M1 Fire at Camp
4M2 Corporate Choppers
5M2 Big Feet
5M3-6M1 Spilling Petrol
5M3-6M1 Pt II Horning In
6M2-7M1 Pt I Up in a Basket
7M2-8M1 Pain of Glass
8M2 Truck Stop [section dialed out of OST only]
8M3 Reading the Map
10M1 Rialto Ripples
11M3-12M1 High Bar and Ceiling Tiles
12M3 Ludlow's Speech
12M5 Monster on the Loose




Priority 3 - The recording has appeared on bootlegs

1989 - Indiana Jones and the The Last Crusade
2m3-3m1 Sinister Visitors
3m2a The Holy Grail
4m2 Beneath The Floors
6m2 Discussing The Book
6m2x New Ending
6m3
6m4 Market Source
8m2 Koeniggraetzer March
9m2 New Ending
10m1 Insert 1
10m1 Fix for Bar 65
12m2 The Penitent Man Will Pass

1991 - Hook
4M5-5M1 Revised Ending
9M4 Insert
13M1 Tink Grows Up
15m2 The End Of Hook




I'm sure this list isn't complete, please feel free to post other cues that we have sheet music for but not recordings of!

[Faleel]

I'm sure this list isn't complete, please feel free to post other cues that we have sheet music for but not recordings of!

Superman has a bunch of alternate/unused cues that were not recorded that are listed in the sheet music.

[Jason LeBlanc]

Feel free to make a list

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My personal requests:

shorter cues to get you warmed up:
Hook: 15m2 The End Of Hook [bars 27-40] (the rest is available via the rear channels of the DVD, but those bars are replaced by an Insert then dialed out)
Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom: 11m1 Insert
The Lost World: 14M2 The Saving Dart [ending only] (the rest of the cue is already on the OST)
Harry Potter 1: 2m4 Insert Diagon Alley Reveal


long cues:
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: 9m2 Willy In The Fryer
The Lost World: 6M2-7M1 Pt II Up in a Basket
Harry Potter 1: Quidditch and the Great Gryffindor Victory

[Jack]

I might have a go at 4M14 Dueling the Dementor from PoA

"Quidditch and the Great Gryffindor Victory" There's no slate number. Where do I find this one?

[Jason LeBlanc]

You could finish Get 'Em R2 as well if you wanted

[Jack]

Indeed I could.

[Alexander]

You could finish Get 'Em R2 as well if you wanted

+1

[Faleel]

Feel free to make a list

I tried to shrink that but it woulnt shrink.

[ggctuk]

You could finish Get 'Em R2 as well if you wanted

+2

I'd love to see AOTC Finale with these sound samples too.

EDIT: And Duel of the Fates without the choral too (since a complete recording of that is currently unavailable)

[Datameister]

FYI, I'm working on an all-new "Get 'Em R-2!" mockup that I'll be happy to share, once I finish it. I know Jack's incomplete mockup was VERY well received (and for good reason), so I'm hoping mine won't disappoint, but I think it's turning out quite well. And heck, if you end up preferring Jack's, you can at least use his and then edit mine in to fill in the blanks. =P

Anyway, I'm hoping to have this finished sometime in the next few days, so stay tuned. The brass, strings, and percussion are basically finished - their balance just needs a little fine-tuning in a few spots. Then I've just got to do the woodwinds and keyboards, neither of which will dramatically impact the way the mockup sounds.

[Trent Bennett]

FYI, I'm working on an all-new "Get 'Em R-2!" mockup that I'll be happy to share, once I finish it. I know Jack's incomplete mockup was VERY well received (and for good reason), so I'm hoping mine won't disappoint, but I think it's turning out quite well. And heck, if you end up preferring Jack's, you can at least use his and then edit mine in to fill in the blanks. =P

Anyway, I'm hoping to have this finished sometime in the next few days, so stay tuned. The brass, strings, and percussion are basically finished - their balance just needs a little fine-tuning in a few spots. Then I've just got to do the woodwinds and keyboards, neither of which will dramatically impact the way the mockup sounds.

Nice looking forward to it!

[Datameister]

And you know it's all your fault, too.

[Trent Bennett]

And you know it's all your fault, too.

Glad I could help!

[Datameister]

Aaaaaaaaaaand there it is. The woodwinds ended up being pretty easy, especially since they're (intentionally) nearly impossible to hear.

http://www.multiupload.com/QDJ04YCJAR

Again, I hope it's not a disappointment after Jack's mockup. But at least it covers all the missing material, and it's a million times better than the mockup I did in Finale a while back!

[Trent Bennett]

That's actually pretty good Joe.

[ggctuk]

I say that's actually a perfect mockup.