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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:33 PM
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:34 PM
Ah, a recliner. Nice.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:52 PM
Watched The Avengers again. It holds up well after second viewing, which is something I didn't quite expect. It makes me feel like 10-year old again, which many of the latest blockbusters didn't manage to do. And that's something. 
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:02 PM
I have been loaned a movie called Red State, directed by Kevin Smith and I'm about to watch it now. I didn't know it existed before today. On RT it's 58%, a real divider by the looks of it. Could be great.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:07 PM
It's interesting. Definitely not what one expects from Kevin Smith.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:08 PM
nothing Kevin Smith has done could ever be called great.
Red State is not great, nor horrible, it falls somewhere in between.
Red State is not great, nor horrible, it falls somewhere in between.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:16 PM
In this instance my usage of the G word is casual - as in ha, yeah, that was great! Not the E.T. The Extra Terrestrial sort of Great. 
We should really have a JWFan Great-o-Meter by now. One would be useful.
Anyway, Clerks touches greatness in some ways. Not totally, but it gets close.
We should really have a JWFan Great-o-Meter by now. One would be useful.
Anyway, Clerks touches greatness in some ways. Not totally, but it gets close.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:22 PM
I would disagree, but it isn't a film meant for me. That much i get.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:27 PM
Can't argue with that. The low rent trashy cynicism of the script (and performers) appeals very much to my armchair outlook.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:36 PM
I've seen Pan's Labyrinth and I've liked it , but my first thought has been like seeing a spanish film (The Spanish Civil War, Maribel Verdú), in fact, I always thought this was a spanish film, but directed by Guillermo De Toro. The story it's awesome but i see some mistakes. The faun's design looks pretty well and the film score is great.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:54 PM
I've seen Pan's Labyrinth and I've liked it , but my first thought has been like seeing a spanish film (The Spanish Civil War, Maribel Verdú), in fact, I always thought this was a spanish film, but directed by Guillermo De Toro. The story it's awesome but i see some mistakes. The faun's design looks pretty well and the film score is great.
This is one of my favourites of the last decade (and 2006 was a great year). There's a passion to it that sets it apart from other Spanish films, maybe it's because it's sort of a half-Mexican film instead
. It's done with a very interesting taste. Great villains and atmosphere.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:15 PM
Titanic 3D
This film was huge in 1997, it made an untold amount of money. Many say it was because of the hype. But its simply a very good film.
Camaron's script is very conventional though, and about as subtle as a jackhammer. Everything that happens in the film is designed to evoke somesort of response from the audience. Most films do that. but never so blatantly as this one. There also isn't a single surprise in the film. Even if you never seen this film before, you know what will happen, because you've seen it before in so many other films.
The film consists of 2 distinct parts. The first part is the love story.
Again, there's no subtlety here. Boy meets Girl. First they find each other annoying, and 10 minutes later they have a deep emotional bond. If you are a cynic, then it won't work. If you open up to it, then it does. The 2 leads help a lot. Kate Winslet is gorgeous, and starts of as aloof and distant and becomes a women you care about. Leo starts off a bit over the top as the happy go lucky Jack, but slowly relaxes into the role. The "portrait" scene is genuinly erotic.
The rest of the cast are well chosen. Billy Zane is good in a almost caricature of a evil man. He's so vain, and nasty and ridiculously evil that it becomes fun. (would it not have been interesting though if his character had been a better nicer man, or actually loved Rose? By making him this evil, Cameron hedged his bets)
Of the rest of the cast Kathy Bates is best as Molly Brown.
The second part of the film starts when the iceberg comes into play. Suspense builds when Titanic tries to dodge it, and then the suspense fades away...and everything seems fine.
From that moment the brillaince of Cameron as a director comes good. The way he very slowly build from the moment when everything seems to be OK, till the startling realisation that the unsinkable ship is doomed. I feel a modern film would get to the mass panis and huge flooding scenes to soon. But Cameron delays it, milks it out. Eventually disaster does unfold, and it happens on an apocalyptic scale. The special effects look incredible lifelike and frightening. The rising water looks like a harbinger of death and destruction.. The breaking up and the final sinking are heartstopping moments.
I guess there is a difference between converted to 3D and converted to 3D under the supervision of Cameron.
I'm no 3D expert, but it looked great. The dimensions looked believable and the 3D really brought something to the sinking scenes.
Horners score is the icing on the cake. one of his best.
In it's re-release the film has made over 250 million dollars, against a conversion cost of 18 million. and without the hype it once had. Simply staggering.
**** out of ****
This film was huge in 1997, it made an untold amount of money. Many say it was because of the hype. But its simply a very good film.
Camaron's script is very conventional though, and about as subtle as a jackhammer. Everything that happens in the film is designed to evoke somesort of response from the audience. Most films do that. but never so blatantly as this one. There also isn't a single surprise in the film. Even if you never seen this film before, you know what will happen, because you've seen it before in so many other films.
The film consists of 2 distinct parts. The first part is the love story.
Again, there's no subtlety here. Boy meets Girl. First they find each other annoying, and 10 minutes later they have a deep emotional bond. If you are a cynic, then it won't work. If you open up to it, then it does. The 2 leads help a lot. Kate Winslet is gorgeous, and starts of as aloof and distant and becomes a women you care about. Leo starts off a bit over the top as the happy go lucky Jack, but slowly relaxes into the role. The "portrait" scene is genuinly erotic.
The rest of the cast are well chosen. Billy Zane is good in a almost caricature of a evil man. He's so vain, and nasty and ridiculously evil that it becomes fun. (would it not have been interesting though if his character had been a better nicer man, or actually loved Rose? By making him this evil, Cameron hedged his bets)
Of the rest of the cast Kathy Bates is best as Molly Brown.
The second part of the film starts when the iceberg comes into play. Suspense builds when Titanic tries to dodge it, and then the suspense fades away...and everything seems fine.
From that moment the brillaince of Cameron as a director comes good. The way he very slowly build from the moment when everything seems to be OK, till the startling realisation that the unsinkable ship is doomed. I feel a modern film would get to the mass panis and huge flooding scenes to soon. But Cameron delays it, milks it out. Eventually disaster does unfold, and it happens on an apocalyptic scale. The special effects look incredible lifelike and frightening. The rising water looks like a harbinger of death and destruction.. The breaking up and the final sinking are heartstopping moments.
I guess there is a difference between converted to 3D and converted to 3D under the supervision of Cameron.
I'm no 3D expert, but it looked great. The dimensions looked believable and the 3D really brought something to the sinking scenes.
Horners score is the icing on the cake. one of his best.
In it's re-release the film has made over 250 million dollars, against a conversion cost of 18 million. and without the hype it once had. Simply staggering.
**** out of ****
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:31 PM
So let me put this straight: Quint proclaims The Avengers childish, Alex, on the other hand, enjoys it. And then you herald Titanic as a masterpiece of cinema.
If this is not a sign that the world is ending, I don't know what is. But then again, it is kinda 2012...
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If this is not a sign that the world is ending, I don't know what is. But then again, it is kinda 2012...
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:32 PM
I cannot disagree with you Stefan, it's a great film in 2d or 3d.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:33 PM
It's not a perfect film, but it is a great one.
Alex won't know what that means.
Alex won't know what that means.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:35 PM
I still love it. It's the last big Hollywood epic.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:37 PM
well, I might count LOTR as that.
But Titanic does has the proper weight and drama for a true epic.
But Titanic does has the proper weight and drama for a true epic.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:20 PM
So let me put this straight: Quint proclaims The Avengers childish, Alex, on the other hand, enjoys it.
Where did I say I didn't?? And you say "childish" as if it has negative connotations? Anyway, I didn't say that either.
And it cost 18MIL to remaster Titantic in 3D?! What a fucking horrible extravagance. You could build a school for that. In fact you could build several!
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:22 PM
That was my impression. I might have misunderstood, sorry. I just got an impression Alex enjoyed it more than you, which I thought was quite strange.
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:24 PM
you could build a lot of schools for the overall cost of Titanic, but that's not the point, the amount of business and money the film has made has furthered alot of people's income and career. Film is a business afterall and many many people's livelyhoods. A successful film is a wonderful thing, even if it's a Transformers 2, let alone a Titanic.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:25 PM
It's not a perfect film, but it is a great one.
Then why did you give it a perfect score?
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:26 PM
That was my impression. I might have misunderstood, sorry.
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Nah, it was a fun time at the cinema. Did what it said on the tin. I believe I just expressed some disappointment in it, that's all. I was honestly expecting superhero greatness, but unfortunately it didn't get anywhere close.
Oh and I forgot to mention Silvestri's score. WALLPAPER. What the hell happened to that guy?
I just got an impression Alex enjoyed it more than you, which I thought was quite strange
Maybe he did, who knows.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:27 PM
no movie is truly perfect Koray, yet many are worthy of a perfect score. we're not awarding absolute perfection here.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:29 PM
So Titanic is as close as you can get to perfection?
In 50 years Herrmann will be forgotten.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:29 PM
I couldn't tell you. But his previous Marvel score is much better. But that was a period piece of sorts...
That was my impression. I might have misunderstood, sorry. I just got an impression Alex enjoyed it more than you, which I thought was quite strange.
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Nah, it was a fun time at the cinema. Did what it said on the tin. I believe I just expressed some disappointment in it, that's all. I was honestly expecting superhero greatness, but unfortunately it didn't get anyway where close.
Oh and I forgot to mention Silvestri's score. WALLPAPER. What the hell happened to that guy?
As for the film, I really like it. Much better than what I expected it to be. Straight, honest and to the point. No need to "update outdated concepts".
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From a storytelling point of view, from a directing point of view, there is one thing I associate with what he does, which is calm. There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work, in terms of how many different shots, how many different sound effects, how many different things we’ll throw at an audience to make an impression. But with Kubrick, there is such a great trust of the one correct image to calmly explain something to audience. There can be some slowness to the editing. There’s nothing frenetic about it. It’s very simple. There’s a trust in simple storytelling and simple image making that actually takes massive confidence to try and emulate.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:31 PM
No, and don't be an idiot here, you know exactly what we're talking about. I'd give Night of the Hunter 4 out of 4 stars. It's worthy but it has moments that are not as good as other. At least the children's acting was superior to the overrated film To Kill A Mockingbird which gets alot of perfect scores but it features some truly horrific child acting, some of the worst ever in a big film.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:31 PM
So Titanic is as close as you can get to perfection?
Yes.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:32 PM
you could build a lot of schools for the overall cost of Titanic, but that's not the point, the amount of business and money the film has made has furthered alot of people's income and career.
I know, I know. I just find the cost disgusting. They didn't even have to make the film, just convert it to 3D. Obvious revenue benefits aside, you can't justify those figures. It's symptomatic of the greed at the rotten heart of Hollywood.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:38 PM
It's not a perfect film, but it is a great one.
Then why did you give it a perfect score?
The score reflects only my enjoyment and appreciation of the film.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:38 PM
I don't find it greedy at all. I applaud the decision to get it into the theatre again, I wish studios would re-release the greats again. It is a business afterall and not the government, and not the business of the studios to build schools.
Hmmm, that makes me wonder, perhaps I should do a thread asking the question if Universal rereleased Jaws would people see it again.
Hmmm, that makes me wonder, perhaps I should do a thread asking the question if Universal rereleased Jaws would people see it again.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:40 PM
I know, I know. I just find the cost disgusting. They didn't even have to make the film, just convert it to 3D. Obvious revenue benefits aside, you can't justify those figures. It's symptomatic of the greed at the rotten heart of Hollywood.
What? They spend 18 million, but because of that the conversion is outstanding. Cameron NEVER....EVER does anything fast and cheap.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:43 PM
the conversion is the absolute finest conversion ever to this point.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:44 PM
Cameron always pushes the enveloppe
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:48 PM
I'm all for re-releasing the greats. I'm just massively turned off if ridiculously vulgar extravagances are part of what it takes to get it back up there. The profits involved are besides the point. I'm not going to pay a builder 500,000k to clean up the exterior wall of my house.
You have no concept about what I'm talking about. They paid 18mil for a 3D conversion on a movie. Eighteen. Million. Think about it.
Anyway, I'm bored with that now.
I know, I know. I just find the cost disgusting. They didn't even have to make the film, just convert it to 3D. Obvious revenue benefits aside, you can't justify those figures. It's symptomatic of the greed at the rotten heart of Hollywood.
What? They spend 18 million, but because of that the conversion is outstanding. Cameron NEVER....EVER does anything fast and cheap.
You have no concept about what I'm talking about. They paid 18mil for a 3D conversion on a movie. Eighteen. Million. Think about it.
Anyway, I'm bored with that now.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:50 PM
Just caught the last hour of Lawrence of Arabia, what an epic film. Not epic but EPIC.
When you hear people describe a film as epic I automatically think back to this movie and Ben Hur. These are epics.
Maurice Jarre's ticket to Heaven.
When you hear people describe a film as epic I automatically think back to this movie and Ben Hur. These are epics.
Maurice Jarre's ticket to Heaven.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:51 PM
I'm all for re-releasing the greats. I'm just massively turned off if ridiculously vulgar extravagances are part of what it takes to get it back up there. The profits involved are besides the point. I'm not going to pay a builder 500,000k to clean up the exterior wall of my house.
You payed a small fortune for an overpriced gadget like an iPad, and an iPhone was not enough...nooooo sir needed a Samsung Galaxy.
Please don't lecture other people about vulgar extravagance
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:54 PM
I couldn't even provide a desk and a couple of chairs with that sort of money. Let alone a school!
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:56 PM
Spare me your communist twaddle, you Lib Dem scum!
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:57 PM
I was gonna call you a capitalist bastard earlier, but I remembered you're skint!
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:58 PM
when James Cameron is the government then you have a legitimate gripe, until then it's just a man spending money wisely to make more money.
clearly he had an audience as the film has a healthy viewership for a 15 year old movie.
clearly he had an audience as the film has a healthy viewership for a 15 year old movie.
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"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
"You're not John Conner, I saw you die, said Kyle". "I was only injured, replied John". "No, your injuries were too severe, you died. Look at you, where are your injuries? You're, you're a Terminator." "Kyle, its still me, yes my body was beyond repair, but my essence is here." He points to his head. "No John". Kyle raised his pulse rifle and aimed it at John but before he could fire, John fired first. Knocked to the ground Kyle looked up at the Terminator in the form of the man he once idolized. All hope was lost. "If you kill me how will you ever be born?" "Thats a good question Kyle, all this time we've focus on Sarah, on John, when had we known the it was you we should have targeted all along." John pointed his rifle at Kyle's face. "The resistance is finished, the battle is won. We the machines are the victors, salvation is ours." Kyle never heard the second shot.
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